BakoSaint

To put things in perspective, Calais Campbell is 38 years old and playing DT this year. He has 50 less snaps than Bresee this year. On the season Campbell has 10 non-sack tackles including 2 for a loss, half of each coming in the last game, and I watched him stuff a run behind the line of scrimmage last night. Bresee has 1 and 0 on the season.

I looked into Bresee's past game logs and play by plays and of his 3 career tackles for a loss of a running back, two were in the final 3 minutes of the 4th quarter with the opponent ahead, running down the clock as their primary objective. The last on and only time Bresee tackled a running back for a loss outside the final minutes of the game was 1 year ago, on 10/1/2023.

This play is at 22 seconds in the highlight video below. It looks like a missed blocking assignment as Bresee gets straight through with no block and no apparent move, just runs in a straight line.


Bresee is a big tall guy, but at DT he is kind of this big lumbering tall guy with a high center of gravity and no push trying to spin and grab for sacks. We need a bulldozer. We have a crane. It seems like most of his sacks are where he is in the right time at the right place and can happen to grab the QB or a lane opens up straight to the QB with no blockers.

If you compare to highlights for Jason Carter, a player we could have had if we didnt trade our pick to Philly, Carter plays a lot more like a bulldozer. He impacts the line of scrimmage. He pushes blockers aside or goes through them. He hits with his body not just his arms. He imposes fear. Bresee seems to dance with the oline, throwing his hands in the air like he just dont care in hopes of batting a pass, until a straight line to the QB opens up or somebody runs near him that he can try to grab.

hitta

I've never been a huge fan, even when he was drafted. Honestly, he's turned out better than I expected, but I still think he's a flawed player.

Danno

My thoughts as well. He's a situational DT.

SmashMouth

Certainly a better draft pick than WTFoskey... Or Peyton Turner.

K Major

Should we blame Sean Payton for the Peyton Turner selection ?

BakoSaint

I don't necessarily agree.

Bryan Bresee's PFF scores for 23 and 24 are 45.5 and 36.7.

Foskey's are 62.2 and 61.4. Foskey may not have the sacks but when he is on the field he does try to tackle runners. Like I say we could consider moving Foskey to DT where he would cover the traditional responsibilities of one better than Bresee.

Turner's pff scores go back to 2021 and are 64.6, 69.6, 60.5, and 72.5 but obviously Turner has been hurt a lot. When healthy, he is clearly better than Breseee.

Neither Foskey nor Turner have ever had a season pff score within a full grade of being as low as Bresee's best score. I know some people discount those scores but I think they mean something. I think when people review the tape they see Bresee almost never impacting the run game, and that a large portion of his sacks are more related to other pass rushers driving the QB toward Bresee, who never beat his own man, but then can just reach and bring down the QB, or disengage from the oline and get to the qb behind or beside him. And yet still Bresee misses many of these opportunities.

If Penning can go from looking bad and barely playing many games to being a seemingly competent starter at times in year 3, maybe Foskey can too, who knows. And maybe Turner can overcome injuries though I would never trust him with a big contract. Bresee needs to overcome arm tackling, not impacting the line of scrimmage, and ignoring the run game.