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Observations from Saints loss to Broncos in the Superdome 33-10

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; IMO, not to put the loss on any one player, but Honey Badger dropping the interception was the nail in the coffin for the Saints. I believe that if he didn't score on the return, then the offense would have ...

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Old 10-18-2024, 10:31 AM   #1
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Re: Observations from Saints loss to Broncos in the Superdome 33-10

IMO, not to put the loss on any one player, but Honey Badger dropping the interception was the nail in the coffin for the Saints.

I believe that if he didn't score on the return, then the offense would have gotten into the endzone and it would have been a different game,
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Re: Observations from Saints loss to Broncos in the Superdome 33-10

Everyone, including Demario, missing standard tackles.

Players have checked out.

Alvin and Marshon deserve a new start on a good team. They should demand a trade or the players should all go to Loomis and demand DA gets fired.
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Re: Observations from Saints loss to Broncos in the Superdome 33-10

Mickey Loomis is just yapping. He needs to step down.

Gayle Benson and Dennis Lauscha need a new plan of action.

The current assembled roster is terrible. Rebuild it. We need better scouts (Parenton/Powell) & Jeff Ireland need to be replaced.

Saints need new draft strategies, a better CAP strategy, analyzing RAS scores & rebuilding this old roster. Denver and Houston rebuilt theirs.

This team isn't going to be competitive for years.
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Re: Observations from Saints loss to Broncos in the Superdome 33-10

Broken femur for Adebo.
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Broken femur for Adebo.
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I broke my right-hand thumb fingernail. Could be out for the season.
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Re: Observations from Saints loss to Broncos in the Superdome 33-10

Im still waiting (or just hoping) we get the news DA is fired. But it’s only crickets.
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Re: Observations from Saints loss to Broncos in the Superdome 33-10

It all start with Loomis. Look at your cap, look at how bad that dude manages it. Cam Jordan is a gazillion years old and look at what he is earning.

If you were smart you'd trade as many of your older talent as possible, stock as many picks as possible, and start new.

Everything begins and ends with your oline and dline.
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Re: Observations from Saints loss to Broncos in the Superdome 33-10

My observation is that this team has no heart.
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Old 10-18-2024, 02:36 PM   #10
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It all start with Loomis. Look at your cap, look at how bad that dude manages it. Cam Jordan is a gazillion years old and look at what he is earning.

If you were smart you'd trade as many of your older talent as possible, stock as many picks as possible, and start new.

Everything begins and ends with your oline and dline.
Mickey Loomis had two of the worst offseasons by a general manager in NFL history in 2022 (losing Sean Payton, selecting DA as the replacement, trying to sign Deshaun Watson, giving CGJ to the Eagles for a 5th, and being fleeced by the Eagles in a trade) and 2023 (signing Derek Carr, keeping Pete Carmichael, giving tons of money to Cam Jordan for a 3 year 3 sack $30 million farewell tour, and keeping players like Michael Thomas, Andrus Peat, and Jameis Winston (when the team had no intent to play him).

But 2024 was not a bad offseason for Loomis. He totally changed his approach to the cap and didnt make dumb trades. If Mickey Loomis can take that 1 year chip and make it a 5 year chip and truly change his ways, he might not be the problem going forward. He is not a football guy, and if he brings in football guys while taking a more disciplines approach to spending and trades like he has done this year, we may be fine.

I agree that it would be smart to trade as much older talent as possible and stock as many picks as possible. But many of our older talent are not worth any draft picks because their salaries are more than their production is worth. Also cutting or trading too many of them at once would trigger dead cap hits that would put us over the cap. It was financially impossible to clean house last offseason but we could do it this offseason mostly. We do have some players who could have some trade value now, especially if we ate some of their salary, like possibly Kamara, Lattimore, Davis, Mathieu, maybe Hill, but for the most part only as 1 year rentals if we at part of their salary because nobody wants to pay most of their 2025 scheduled salaries, so it would be late picks.

Meanwhile there are many rosie fans who were convinced that even at 2-3 or 2-4 we were super bowl bound when McCoy came back and would have called for Loomis's head for trading Kamara or Lattimore, ignoring the finances and age, and saying you never trade your best whatever ever. We had to lose to make a trade tenable to more fans and now we are 2-5 and more may understand. A few weeks ago many were saying 'pay da man' to a 30-ish RB already scheduled to make $24 million who wanted more years of guarantees into his 30's.

We will see if we trade anyone for picks. I hope we do. I can see how it would have angered Loomis's base to trade anyone before but now that we are 2-5 I have hope. Maybe we could trade Kamara to the Cowboys or Broncos. Maybe a team could use Lattimore. We cannot possibly keep paying Taysom Hill $10 million a year when he is 35 to be the guy who is a hero one game by breaking his ribs and missing the next 3 with his age and style of play, so maybe we can get a pick for him as a 1 year rental since I think we already restructured his salary to $1 million. Maybe we could even trade Olave to the Chiefs since his concussion dont bode well for the longest career and when we are back to competing again, he may be in line for a risky contract, making a pick we could draft a young receiver with a better bet.
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