Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship"

TheOak · 10-22-2024, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

The idea that if you don't 'take care of your own' you won't be able to 'attract talent' is almost entirely baseless. If a team literally never extended its own stars in their prime, perhaps it could be true, but letting an older running back walk during a rebuilding year or as a strategic decision is something every team in the NFL has done and would have no effect on attracting talent in the future. Also, if we had Derrick Henry, we should trade him too. There is no place for an expensive aging RB on this team and we need draft picks to find more oline, a WR3/4, young RB depth, a TE, etc.

The 49ers let Gore and Mostert walk. The Cowboys let Smith, Elliott, and Pollard walk. The Eagles let Miles Sanders walk. The Packers let Aaron Jones walk. The Vikings let Adrian Peterson and Dalvin Cook walk. The Rams let Todd Gurley walk. The Saints like Ricky Williams, Reggie Bush, and Mark Ingram walk. Letting Kamara loose as he is about 30 and we are in a rebuild is smart and no talent would hold it against us.

In the scheme of things at other positions the 49ers let Joe Montana and Jerry Rice walk. The Patriots kept their cap under control for a 6 ring dynasty letting stars walk. The Packers let Favre and Rodgers walk. The Falcons let Matt Ryan and Julio Jones walk but were able to sign Kirk Cousins.

Its a business. Everyone understands that. Trading or eventually releasing Kamara to gain a draft pick and $10-20 million of long term cap relief is a good business decision.

Would probably be more efficient to ask what I meant than to refute a non existent point. How a team handles a player at the end of their career never crossed my mind. Systemic can be a number of things and they all impact where a player wants to go or stay, especially someone later in their career like Kamara.

- Pay is not systemic. That's business.
- Not extending certain contracts is not systemic. That's business
- Organizations (system) chances at a Super Bowl ring is systemic.
- Coaching staff (system) and their ability to coach is systemic.
- Medical staff (system) and their ability to keep someone healthy is. Think maybe he is looking at himself, the triage list, and wanting some longevity? Even we have questioned the ability if the medical team. Remember Delvin Breaux at all? Kamara was on the team Delvin had his problems.

To be honest, I am not entire sure you know what you are replying to.

jonnyrotten · 10-22-2024, 09:40 AM

Dump Kamara, he has no value on the team anymore. He straight quit last game, body language was garbage, his energy was garbage, his effort was garbage.

jonnyrotten · 10-22-2024, 06:23 PM

Great so we sign him to a ridiculously priced extension.. perfect.

jonnyrotten · 10-22-2024, 06:23 PM

24.5 million reasons to quit on his team

SmashMouth · 10-22-2024, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Great so we sign him to a ridiculously priced extension.. perfect.

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

24.5 million reasons to quit on his team

rezburna · 10-22-2024, 07:11 PM

I’m not mad about it. Two years and he likely retires while still being productive.

SmashMouth · 10-22-2024, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m not mad about it. Two years and he likely retires while still being productive.

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iceshack149 · 10-23-2024, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m not mad about it. Two years and he likely retires while still being productive.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/504Tru/status/1848863882368233817

Basically my thoughts as well. He's arguably the Saints best RB ever.

SmashMouth · 10-23-2024, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Basically my thoughts as well. He's arguably the Saints best RB ever.

iceshack149 likes this.

BakoSaint · 10-24-2024, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://twitter.com/Kat_Terrell/stat...78218995036194

He broke it rushing to sign a contract that pays over 150% of market value.

10-22-2024, 08:50 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship" Originally Posted by BakoSaint The idea that if you don't 'take care of your own' you won't be able to 'attract talent' is almost entirely baseless. If a team literally never extended its own stars in their prime, perhaps it could be true, but letting an older running back walk during a rebuilding year or as a strategic decision is something every team in the NFL has done and would have no effect on attracting talent in the future. Also, if we had Derrick Henry, we should trade him too. There is no place for an expensive aging RB on this team and we need draft picks to find more oline, a WR3/4, young RB depth, a TE, etc. The 49ers let Gore and Mostert walk. The Cowboys let Smith, Elliott, and Pollard walk. The Eagles let Miles Sanders walk. The Packers let Aaron Jones walk. The Vikings let Adrian Peterson and Dalvin Cook walk. The Rams let Todd Gurley walk. The Saints like Ricky Williams, Reggie Bush, and Mark Ingram walk. Letting Kamara loose as he is about 30 and we are in a rebuild is smart and no talent would hold it against us. In the scheme of things at other positions the 49ers let Joe Montana and Jerry Rice walk. The Patriots kept their cap under control for a 6 ring dynasty letting stars walk. The Packers let Favre and Rodgers walk. The Falcons let Matt Ryan and Julio Jones walk but were able to sign Kirk Cousins. Its a business. Everyone understands that. Trading or eventually releasing Kamara to gain a draft pick and $10-20 million of long term cap relief is a good business decision. Would probably be more efficient to ask what I meant than to refute a non existent point. How a team handles a player at the end of their career never crossed my mind. Systemic can be a number of things and they all impact where a player wants to go or stay, especially someone later in their career like Kamara. - Pay is not systemic. That's business. - Not extending certain contracts is not systemic. That's business - Organizations (system) chances at a Super Bowl ring is systemic. - Coaching staff (system) and their ability to coach is systemic. - Medical staff (system) and their ability to keep someone healthy is. Think maybe he is looking at himself, the triage list, and wanting some longevity? Even we have questioned the ability if the medical team. Remember Delvin Breaux at all? Kamara was on the team Delvin had his problems. To be honest, I am not entire sure you know what you are replying to.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

10-22-2024, 09:40 AM	#2
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship" Dump Kamara, he has no value on the team anymore. He straight quit last game, body language was garbage, his energy was garbage, his effort was garbage. mapcow and Sinner like this.

10-22-2024, 06:23 PM	#3
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship" Great so we sign him to a ridiculously priced extension.. perfect.

10-22-2024, 06:23 PM	#4
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship" 24.5 million reasons to quit on his team

10-22-2024, 06:35 PM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship" Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Great so we sign him to a ridiculously priced extension.. perfect. Originally Posted by jonnyrotten 24.5 million reasons to quit on his team Twitter

10-22-2024, 07:11 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,020	Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship" I’m not mad about it. Two years and he likely retires while still being productive. saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido, bobdog86 and 1 others like this.

10-22-2024, 08:48 PM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship" Originally Posted by rezburna I’m not mad about it. Two years and he likely retires while still being productive. Twitter iceshack149 likes this.

10-23-2024, 12:50 PM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship" Originally Posted by rezburna I’m not mad about it. Two years and he likely retires while still being productive. Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://twitter.com/504Tru/status/1848863882368233817 Basically my thoughts as well. He's arguably the Saints best RB ever. AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

10-23-2024, 07:46 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship" Originally Posted by iceshack149 Basically my thoughts as well. He's arguably the Saints best RB ever. Twitter iceshack149 likes this.

10-24-2024, 01:16 AM	#10
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship" Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://twitter.com/Kat_Terrell/stat...78218995036194 He broke it rushing to sign a contract that pays over 150% of market value. SmashMouth and WhoDat!656 like this.
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