2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?

BakoSaint · 11-04-2024, 08:26 PM

I would be surprised if we got anything more than a 4th or 5th max for Lattimore. No team wants Lattimore next year for $18m with his health and age so its an 8 game rental of a player whose health makes them a 50/50 bet to remain available. The one attractive thing for teams trading for Lattimore is that we already ate his salary with a restructure so the rental would only cost $0.5m.

It would not make sense to extend Kamara and trade him. I don't buy the whole Africa thing. I think that was pillow talk to get Loomis to bend over and pay him way above market by saying 'I love you more than anyone else, I could never be with anyone else, we were meant to be, now bend over.' But trading Kamara would trigger a cap hit of $12m so I don't think we do it. Kamaras contract is structured so most of his new money came as a bonus we paid that day, so we don't save much by moving him anymore, and no team wants to give high picks for an aging RB when lots of teams got better RBs for free in free agency.

The return for players like Davis and Mathieu who are showing decline of age and tons of rust would be little or nothing.

Adebo was a player we could have traded if healthy, but so much for that.

Olave is so cheap and young I think we might get a 4th for him even with concussion issues if he wants to continue playing. A team trading for him would be risking $3.5m for a potential #1 WR if they have a QB with better touch to avoid hospital balls. The Dolphins gave OBJ $3m + 5.25m incentives for two years. $3.5m for a flyer on 1.5 years of Olave is a decent bet. If Olave returned to form but left in 2026, that other team would stand to gain a high comp pick. The problem with trading Olave for a 4th is that his salary is so cheap this year and for the rest of the contract that the cap relief is fairly minimal.

AsylumGuido · 11-05-2024, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

It would not make sense to extend Kamara and trade him. I don't buy the whole Africa thing. I think that was pillow talk to get Loomis to bend over and pay him way above market by saying 'I love you more than anyone else, I could never be with anyone else, we were meant to be, now bend over.' But trading Kamara would trigger a cap hit of $12m so I don't think we do it. Kamaras contract is structured so most of his new money came as a bonus we paid that day, so we don't save much by moving him anymore, and no team wants to give high picks for an aging RB when lots of teams got better RBs for free in free agency.

Kamara is a different dude. The guy's kept or invested every penny he's made in the game. It's no longer about the money. He wanted the extension solely because he wanted to stay in New Orleans and continue playing. When he says he'll retire before playing anywhere else I believe him.

AsylumGuido · 11-05-2024, 09:52 AM

One I keep "hearing" is Chase Young. Another is Granderson.

11-04-2024, 08:26 PM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,304	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? I would be surprised if we got anything more than a 4th or 5th max for Lattimore. No team wants Lattimore next year for $18m with his health and age so its an 8 game rental of a player whose health makes them a 50/50 bet to remain available. The one attractive thing for teams trading for Lattimore is that we already ate his salary with a restructure so the rental would only cost $0.5m. It would not make sense to extend Kamara and trade him. I don't buy the whole Africa thing. I think that was pillow talk to get Loomis to bend over and pay him way above market by saying 'I love you more than anyone else, I could never be with anyone else, we were meant to be, now bend over.' But trading Kamara would trigger a cap hit of $12m so I don't think we do it. Kamaras contract is structured so most of his new money came as a bonus we paid that day, so we don't save much by moving him anymore, and no team wants to give high picks for an aging RB when lots of teams got better RBs for free in free agency. The return for players like Davis and Mathieu who are showing decline of age and tons of rust would be little or nothing. Adebo was a player we could have traded if healthy, but so much for that. Olave is so cheap and young I think we might get a 4th for him even with concussion issues if he wants to continue playing. A team trading for him would be risking $3.5m for a potential #1 WR if they have a QB with better touch to avoid hospital balls. The Dolphins gave OBJ $3m + 5.25m incentives for two years. $3.5m for a flyer on 1.5 years of Olave is a decent bet. If Olave returned to form but left in 2026, that other team would stand to gain a high comp pick. The problem with trading Olave for a 4th is that his salary is so cheap this year and for the rest of the contract that the cap relief is fairly minimal.
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11-05-2024, 09:33 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? Originally Posted by BakoSaint It would not make sense to extend Kamara and trade him. I don't buy the whole Africa thing. I think that was pillow talk to get Loomis to bend over and pay him way above market by saying 'I love you more than anyone else, I could never be with anyone else, we were meant to be, now bend over.' But trading Kamara would trigger a cap hit of $12m so I don't think we do it. Kamaras contract is structured so most of his new money came as a bonus we paid that day, so we don't save much by moving him anymore, and no team wants to give high picks for an aging RB when lots of teams got better RBs for free in free agency. Kamara is a different dude. The guy's kept or invested every penny he's made in the game. It's no longer about the money. He wanted the extension solely because he wanted to stay in New Orleans and continue playing. When he says he'll retire before playing anywhere else I believe him.

11-05-2024, 09:52 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes? One I keep "hearing" is Chase Young. Another is Granderson.