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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I don't see it as undermining at all, diz. I believe that most of the players truly liked Dennis Allen, but no longer believed in him. As many here have said, he was a really good ...

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Old 11-11-2024, 03:57 PM   #31
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I don't see it as undermining at all, diz. I believe that most of the players truly liked Dennis Allen, but no longer believed in him. As many here have said, he was a really good to great coordinator, but sucked as a head coach. I see nothing wrong with any of the players saying good things about someone they really liked personally. I'll bet Rizzi likes Allen as a person, as well, but may have disagreed with how he ran things.
Luckily for us, Gayle saw sense. Because Mickey was never going to fire his BFF.
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Old 11-11-2024, 04:18 PM   #32
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I'm kind of intrigued by Kevin Austin Jr.

He only made 2 catches, but they both converted 3rd downs from memory and the sideline catch on 3rd and 14 was very nice.
He's been out of college for over three years and those were his first ever NFL catches from what they said.
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Old 11-11-2024, 04:40 PM   #33
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Kamara with the record
Cam with the sack
DEs especially Young and Turner showed up
Honey Badger with the pick
MVS is a burner
Trevor Penning with a top grade from PFF (!)
Wait, what?
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Old 11-12-2024, 08:38 AM   #34
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Re: Observations from Saints beating Dirty Birds

Penning has sure turned the corner! He's getting to be pretty rock solid on that RT! Can we put to bed the 'Bust' tag yet? Seems like he was a project with raw ability that just needed to be taught technique!
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Old 11-12-2024, 09:02 AM   #35
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Penning has sure turned the corner! He's getting to be pretty rock solid on that RT! Can we put to bed the 'Bust' tag yet? Seems like he was a project with raw ability that just needed to be taught technique!
I seem to remember one or two around here that also had Ruiz labeled as a bust. I've said this before and I'll repeat, collegiate players, especially offensive linemen, are not being developed prior to making it to the NFL. NCAA rules limiting time with players to 20 hours per week (including gameday) have led to vanilla offensive and defensive schemes with little or no work on fundamentals. College coaches barely have time to get players ready to play, forget about getting them to play right.
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Old 11-12-2024, 09:10 AM   #36
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Wait, what?
🥇 Trevor Penning - 92.7
🥈 Marquez Valdes-Scantling - 92.1
🥉 Derek Carr - 77.3
🏅 Cesar Ruiz - 77.1
🏅 Kevin Austin Jr. - 73.1
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Old 11-12-2024, 12:42 PM   #37
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I'll gladly eat a ton of crow if Penning strings together good performances. Admittedly, the Falcons pass rush is not their strong suit, so I think we need to see more, especially against a Browns team that has Myles Garrett.
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Old 11-12-2024, 01:00 PM   #38
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I'll gladly eat a ton of crow if Penning strings together good performances. Admittedly, the Falcons pass rush is not their strong suit, so I think we need to see more, especially against a Browns team that has Myles Garrett.
Well i will give him that he has gone from being an absolute liability at LT to a serviceable RT. That is quite the turnaround.

I would like to see Penning used more to downblock while pulling Ruiz around to the outside. Penning is big and strong and could absolutely maul Grady Jarret if given a good angle. And Ruiz is athletic enough to get around and lead on the outside.
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Old 11-12-2024, 04:49 PM   #39
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Well if penning has turned a corner then that sets up well for us in the draft to fulfill D-line needs and wait a round or 2 for O-line help. Not saying we shouldn’t be drafting O-line just hoping maybe it’s not the necessity we may have thought it was a few months ago.
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