Observations from Saints beating Dirty Birds

saintsfan1976 · 11-12-2024, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Wait, what?

🥇 Trevor Penning - 92.7
🥈 Marquez Valdes-Scantling - 92.1
🥉 Derek Carr - 77.3
🏅 Cesar Ruiz - 77.1
🏅 Kevin Austin Jr. - 73.1

leilung · 11-12-2024, 07:38 AM

Penning has sure turned the corner! He's getting to be pretty rock solid on that RT! Can we put to bed the 'Bust' tag yet? Seems like he was a project with raw ability that just needed to be taught technique!

AsylumGuido · 11-12-2024, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Penning has sure turned the corner! He's getting to be pretty rock solid on that RT! Can we put to bed the 'Bust' tag yet? Seems like he was a project with raw ability that just needed to be taught technique!

I seem to remember one or two around here that also had Ruiz labeled as a bust. I've said this before and I'll repeat, collegiate players, especially offensive linemen, are not being developed prior to making it to the NFL. NCAA rules limiting time with players to 20 hours per week (including gameday) have led to vanilla offensive and defensive schemes with little or no work on fundamentals. College coaches barely have time to get players ready to play, forget about getting them to play right.

neugey · 11-12-2024, 11:42 AM

I'll gladly eat a ton of crow if Penning strings together good performances. Admittedly, the Falcons pass rush is not their strong suit, so I think we need to see more, especially against a Browns team that has Myles Garrett.

Crusader · 11-12-2024, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I'll gladly eat a ton of crow if Penning strings together good performances. Admittedly, the Falcons pass rush is not their strong suit, so I think we need to see more, especially against a Browns team that has Myles Garrett.

Well i will give him that he has gone from being an absolute liability at LT to a serviceable RT. That is quite the turnaround.

I would like to see Penning used more to downblock while pulling Ruiz around to the outside. Penning is big and strong and could absolutely maul Grady Jarret if given a good angle. And Ruiz is athletic enough to get around and lead on the outside.

keithday123 · 11-12-2024, 03:49 PM

Well if penning has turned a corner then that sets up well for us in the draft to fulfill D-line needs and wait a round or 2 for O-line help. Not saying we shouldn’t be drafting O-line just hoping maybe it’s not the necessity we may have thought it was a few months ago.

AsylumGuido · 11-13-2024, 11:51 AM

dizzle88 · 11-13-2024, 01:51 PM

Penning has definitely improved over the course of the last few weeks.

I will say though and not to be a Debby downer, Falcons are last or near last in the league in sacks. So that directly correlates to the fact that our O line had one of their better days.

AsylumGuido · 11-13-2024, 04:39 PM

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11-12-2024, 08:10 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,022 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints beating Dirty Birds Originally Posted by Danno Wait, what? 🥇 Trevor Penning - 92.7 🥈 Marquez Valdes-Scantling - 92.1 🥉 Derek Carr - 77.3 🏅 Cesar Ruiz - 77.1 🏅 Kevin Austin Jr. - 73.1

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,426	Re: Observations from Saints beating Dirty Birds Penning has sure turned the corner! He's getting to be pretty rock solid on that RT! Can we put to bed the 'Bust' tag yet? Seems like he was a project with raw ability that just needed to be taught technique! jnormand and Danno like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Observations from Saints beating Dirty Birds Originally Posted by leilung Penning has sure turned the corner! He's getting to be pretty rock solid on that RT! Can we put to bed the 'Bust' tag yet? Seems like he was a project with raw ability that just needed to be taught technique! I seem to remember one or two around here that also had Ruiz labeled as a bust. I've said this before and I'll repeat, collegiate players, especially offensive linemen, are not being developed prior to making it to the NFL. NCAA rules limiting time with players to 20 hours per week (including gameday) have led to vanilla offensive and defensive schemes with little or no work on fundamentals. College coaches barely have time to get players ready to play, forget about getting them to play right.

11-12-2024, 11:42 AM	#4
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from Saints beating Dirty Birds I'll gladly eat a ton of crow if Penning strings together good performances. Admittedly, the Falcons pass rush is not their strong suit, so I think we need to see more, especially against a Browns team that has Myles Garrett.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,044	Re: Observations from Saints beating Dirty Birds Originally Posted by neugey I'll gladly eat a ton of crow if Penning strings together good performances. Admittedly, the Falcons pass rush is not their strong suit, so I think we need to see more, especially against a Browns team that has Myles Garrett. Well i will give him that he has gone from being an absolute liability at LT to a serviceable RT. That is quite the turnaround. I would like to see Penning used more to downblock while pulling Ruiz around to the outside. Penning is big and strong and could absolutely maul Grady Jarret if given a good angle. And Ruiz is athletic enough to get around and lead on the outside. UK_WhoDat, neugey, leilung and 1 others like this.

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keithday123 Texasaint Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 208	Re: Observations from Saints beating Dirty Birds Well if penning has turned a corner then that sets up well for us in the draft to fulfill D-line needs and wait a round or 2 for O-line help. Not saying we shouldn’t be drafting O-line just hoping maybe it’s not the necessity we may have thought it was a few months ago. leilung and AsylumGuido like this.
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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Observations from Saints beating Dirty Birds Penning has definitely improved over the course of the last few weeks. I will say though and not to be a Debby downer, Falcons are last or near last in the league in sacks. So that directly correlates to the fact that our O line had one of their better days.

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