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AsylumGuido 11-21-2024 08:16 AM

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AsylumGuido 11-21-2024 10:12 AM

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AsylumGuido 11-21-2024 03:36 PM

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AsylumGuido 11-21-2024 04:40 PM

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Looks like Derek Carr has passed up both Johnny Unitas and Joe Montana on the all-time passing list.


leilung 11-22-2024 06:57 AM

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I have to say, now that we have the PAUSE of the Bye Week, I'm conflicted on this team.

As a long time devoted fan, I'm more than a little giddy at banging out two wins after a seven week slide into misery. HOWEVER, I fear we will not see ANY front office changes if somehow we come close to .500 to end this season.

Once again, the Saints are faced with more questions than answers going forward:
Salary Cap Kick the Can
Aging Stars at the Core of our Defense
Middling Draft Options
Coaching Changes
Questionable Talent Evaluation
Perennial Soft Tissue Injuries at Alarming Rates

Any thoughts? Where do we start?

AsylumGuido 11-22-2024 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 1005342)
I have to say, now that we have the PAUSE of the Bye Week, I'm conflicted on this team.

As a long time devoted fan, I'm more than a little giddy at banging out two wins after a seven week slide into misery. HOWEVER, I fear we will not see ANY front office changes if somehow we come close to .500 to end this season.

Once again, the Saints are faced with more questions than answers going forward:
Salary Cap Kick the Can
Aging Stars at the Core of our Defense
Middling Draft Options
Coaching Changes
Questionable Talent Evaluation
Perennial Soft Tissue Injuries at Alarming Rates

Any thoughts? Where do we start?

I honestly don't think we see any front office changes involving Loomis regardless of how many games we win or lose.

As for soft tissue injuries, looking across the league we're pretty much on par with most other teams in that regard. We have had it hit some key positions, but so have other teams. Others have dodged the bullet. Is it limited training due to collectively bargained reductions? Equipment? Playing and practice surfaces? I have also heard the increasing speed and size of the average player being a factor. Poor technique due to limitations of instruction at every level (high school, college, and pro) has also been mentioned.

iceshack149 11-22-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 1005342)
I have to say, now that we have the PAUSE of the Bye Week, I'm conflicted on this team.

As a long time devoted fan, I'm more than a little giddy at banging out two wins after a seven week slide into misery. HOWEVER, I fear we will not see ANY front office changes if somehow we come close to .500 to end this season.

Once again, the Saints are faced with more questions than answers going forward:
Salary Cap Kick the Can
Aging Stars at the Core of our Defense
Middling Draft Options
Coaching Changes
Questionable Talent Evaluation
Perennial Soft Tissue Injuries at Alarming Rates

Any thoughts? Where do we start?

I hate the familiar feeling of hoping that the Saints win all of the rest of the remaining games in a season while wishing certain teams lose their remaining games so that the Saints barely make it into the post season.

BakoSaint 11-22-2024 10:03 AM

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A great way to deal with soft tissue injuries is to trade back in the draft, get two picks for one, and if the first player gets a soft tissue injury, you have a young backup waiting in the wings who was talented enough to be drafted. I know this goes against everything Mickey Loomis believes, its the proverbial mocktail, but he needs to start questioning his beliefs when the owner is having to overrule him and fire the coach.

Sinner 11-22-2024 11:24 AM

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Yep. HERE WE ARE AGAIN, doing the hallucinogenic mathematical scenario calculations, instead of watching a WINNING TEAM go into the “PLAYOFFS?!?!” with confidence. Put the pipe down, Guido.

AsylumGuido 11-22-2024 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1005348)
Yep. HERE WE ARE AGAIN, doing the hallucinogenic mathematical scenario calculations, instead of watching a WINNING TEAM go into the “PLAYOFFS?!?!” with confidence. Put the pipe down, Guido.

How about this, sinner guy? You be the type of fan you want to be (fair weather) and I'll be the type of fan that I am.

:bng:

jnormand 11-22-2024 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1005345)
I hate the familiar feeling of hoping that the Saints win all of the rest of the remaining games in a season while wishing certain teams lose their remaining games so that the Saints barely make it into the post season.

I agree dude. Problem for me is, I hate seeing them lose now that that dildo Allen is gone.

Sinner 11-22-2024 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1005349)
How about this, sinner guy? You be the type of fan you want to be (fair weather) and I'll be the type of fan that I am.

:bng:

I am always a fan. This weather has been bad for quite some time.
You still puffin dat pipe though.

AsylumGuido 11-22-2024 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1005352)
I am always a fan. This weather has been bad for quite some time.
You still puffin dat pipe though.

I gave up smoking when I got married 36 years ago, some 21 years after I became the very same fan that I am today. I give my full support to my Saints 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, and never waver.

:bng:

SmashMouth 11-22-2024 03:29 PM

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Saw a little rugby action in New Zealand whilst vacationing there . Yes, France won over NZ.

Beautiful country with great wines!

AsylumGuido 11-22-2024 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1005356)
Saw a little rugby action in New Zealand whilst vacationing there . Yes, France won over NZ.

Beautiful country with great wines!

New Zealand and Australia are on our bucket list. We were considering it for 2027. Planning on the Baltic ports the Summer of 2026.

vpheughan 11-22-2024 04:52 PM

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I gave up smoking when I got married 36 years ago, some 21 years after I became the very same fan that I am today. I give my full support to my Saints 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, and never waver.

:bng:

Todays unwanted "Guest Biographer" claims....." 36 years ago, some 21 years after I became the very same fan that I am today...seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, and never waver." WAVER? WAVER? ARE YOU KIDDIN US? AFTER ALL THAT TIME AN AUTHENTIC "TRUE FAN" would say: "never WAIVER"!! You are hereby sentenced to having your Fleur De Lis placard removed which leaves you, holding the stick!
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AsylumGuido 11-22-2024 05:02 PM

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Todays unwanted "Guest Biographer" claims....." 36 years ago, some 21 years after I became the very same fan that I am today...seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, and never waver." WAVER? WAVER? ARE YOU KIDDIN US? AFTER ALL THAT TIME AN AUTHENTIC "TRUE FAN" would say: "never WAIVER"!! You are hereby sentenced to having your Fleur De Lis placard removed which leaves you, holding the stick!
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Hey, smartass, "waver" is a verb that means to be unsteady or indecisive, while "waiver" is a noun that means to give up a right or privilege.

As a "true fan" I never falter, hesitate, and vacillate (ie. waver) when it comes to supporting my Saints.

Saying "never waiver" makes no sense. Learn the meaning of the words, dude. :rolleyes:

Missed your meds again?

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

AsylumGuido 11-22-2024 05:58 PM

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AsylumGuido 11-22-2024 06:16 PM

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Sinner 11-22-2024 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1005353)
I gave up smoking when I got married 36 years ago, some 21 years after I became the very same fan that I am today. I give my full support to my Saints 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year, and never waver.

:bng:

Well, the pipe would have been a good excuse for you. Sorry I misjudged.

jnormand 11-22-2024 10:52 PM

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Tough times. Reality is, they probably won’t make the post season. But I’m hopeful for the team now. I wouldn’t mind seeing them continue to win, even if they don’t make the post season and even if it costs them dropping in the draft.

I just want to see more of a winning culture and attitude from them. More energy and more accountability.

I have a good feeling about the future.

vpheughan 11-23-2024 10:56 AM

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Hey, smartass, "waver" is a verb that means to be unsteady or indecisive, while "waiver" is a noun that means to give up a right or privilege.

As a "true fan" I never falter, hesitate, and vacillate (ie. waver) when it comes to supporting my Saints.

Saying "never waiver" makes no sense. Learn the meaning of the words, dude. :rolleyes:

Missed your meds again?

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:


SMARTass? Yes, I am SMART!
You, as usual BRING UP THE REAR!!! SIRIUSLY! (Yes, I did it again!!) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
"Defame much?"


"As a "true fan"
but can't appreciate a football related PUN? The substitution of WAIVER for WAVER? Not much PUN in your life, is there?

SMART people know "PUNS" when they read them. Those bringing up the rear don't

When your wife embraces her mistakes, she hugs YOU!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Here's a few more. "ALL IN PUN OF COURSE"

You're Soooooooo EASY!!!! HAVE PUN! While you suck on more lemons!! GUIDO! HO HO HO HOOOOOO!

Did you hear about the butcher who backed into his grinder? He got a little
behind in his work!
I used to be a baker, but I couldn’t make enough dough.
I was going to tell a time-traveling joke, but you guys didn’t like it.
I used to work in a shoe-recycling factory. It was sole-destroying work.
I was going to look for my missing watch, but I could never find the time.
I’m reading a book about that new restaurant called Karma. There’s no
menu; you get served what you deserve.
I bought some shoes from a drug dealer. I don’t know what he laced them
with, but I’ve been tripping all day.
I knew a guy who collected candy canes. He was always on a mint.
I’m good friends with 25 letters of the alphabet. I don’t know why.
I got fired from the calendar factory. All I did was take a few days off.
I saw an ad for a boat. It said, “OBO.” I thought, “That’s a good price for a
boat!” Then I realized it meant “Or Best Offer.”
Why don’t skeletons fight each other? They don’t have the guts.
Why can’t scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything!
What’s the difference between a snowman and a snowwoman? Snowballs.
Want to hear a construction joke? Oh, never mind, I’m still working on that
one.
Why don’t scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything!
The future, the present, and the past walked into a bar. Things got a little
tense.
Did you hear about the mathematician who’s afraid of negative numbers? He
will stop at nothing to avoid them.
When life hands you lemons, make lemonade. But don’t try it with oranges;
they’re more difficult.

AsylumGuido 11-23-2024 01:36 PM

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^^^

What a headcase!

:rolleyes:

:smokin:

AsylumGuido 11-24-2024 08:17 AM

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Sinner 11-24-2024 10:49 AM

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And here we go again? Rooting for other teams to win to improve our chances of embarrassing ourselves by even sniffing the Playoffs in our current condition?

It’s one thing to be a fan who never wavers, but to be a fan that embodies the mindset of a culture that thrives on mediocrity (barely that), basically equates being a Saints Fan with quite simply being a Loser. I know you can’t or won’t see it, because I’ve been saying the same thing to you for three years, and you’re still shaking your pompoms at “winning is not the goal”.

I am a diehard Saints Fan, but I’ll be cheering for other teams today, and into the Playoffs, because they PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. Have fun today.

BakoSaint 11-24-2024 11:08 AM

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We are not making the playoffs. There will be games we dont score a TD and we will tend to lose those. MVS is our #1 receiver at this point, and has career 50% hands that Reid and Mahomes could not fix, so for the games where he catches 100% and the games where he catches 50%, the games where he catches 0% are coming. There are secondaries in the league that will be able to shut down MVS and Austin, and that will put pressure on Hill and Kamara to carry the offense. Hill and Kamara are very old for their positions and are taking more snaps than every before and being depended on to take all the hits in the offense, they will miss games. We will probably not win those games. I am sorry but the reality is that a team with MVS as #1 WR and a 34yo coming off broken ribs as the focal point of the offense is not going on an 8 game winning streak. There is no world where that level of excellence with that makeup is sustainable.

Don't get me wrong. We could finish with Rizzi having a record about .500 and if we do, we should consider retaining him. It would be an accomplishment. But perfection is not a realistic expectation when you look at our roster and injuries and realize that the underlying reasons those injuries occurred remain, the previous injuries have left us with weaknesses that weak opponents masked, and more injuries will follow.

AsylumGuido 11-24-2024 11:20 AM

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AsylumGuido 11-24-2024 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1005378)
There will be games we dont score a TD and we will tend to lose those.

I seriously doubt there will be games where we don't score a TD.

:rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 11-24-2024 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1005376)
And here we go again? Rooting for other teams to win so that our chances of embarrassing ourselves by even sniffing the Playoffs in our current condition?

It’s one thing to be a fan who never wavers, but to be a fan that embodies the mindset of a culture that thrives on mediocrity (barely that), basically equates being a Saints Fan with quite simply being a Loser. I know you can’t or won’t see it, because I’ve been saying the same thing to you for three years, and you’re still shaking your pompoms at “winning is not the goal”.

I am a diehard Saints Fan, but I’ll be cheering for other teams today, and into the Playoffs, because they PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. Have fun today.

I have no doubt my Saints will be playing every game the rest of the way out to win, as much as you hope they would lose.

:rolleyes:

Sinner 11-24-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1005381)
I have no doubt my Saints will be playing every game the rest of the way out to win, as much as you hope they would lose.

:rolleyes:

There is a vast difference between hope and knowing, just as there is a difference between playing and WINNING. You just don’t get it.

AsylumGuido 11-24-2024 12:35 PM

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There is a vast difference between hope and knowing, just as there is a difference between playing and WINNING. You just don’t get it.

No. Your idea of reality simply differs from mine. Wallow in your misery. :rolleyes:

BakoSaint 11-24-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1005380)
I seriously doubt there will be games where we don't score a TD.

:rolleyes:

Maybe games was a slight exaggeration but I think there will be 1 game we dont score a TD in the next 6, and possible 2 or more. We did not score a TD against the Chargers. That game was before Olave was hurt, which took our receiving corps to minor league levels. Also against the Eagles our only TD was by Chris Olave, who was critical to our offense in that game, so without Olave we probably don't score a TD against the Eagles.

At this point our receiving corps is decimated. Our offense now depends on 4 stars who have all missed time this year: Carr, McCoy, Kamara, and Hill, and all are healthy now, but probably some will have injuries the rest of the way. Its easy to see us being held without a TD with no receivers and any of them out.

AsylumGuido 11-24-2024 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1005386)
Maybe games was a slight exaggeration but I think there will be 1 game we dont score a TD in the next 6, and possible 2 or more. We did not score a TD against the Chargers. That game was before Olave was hurt, which took our receiving corps to minor league levels. Also against the Eagles our only TD was by Chris Olave, who was critical to our offense in that game, so without Olave we probably don't score a TD against the Eagles.

At this point our receiving corps is decimated. Our offense now depends on 4 stars who have all missed time this year: Carr, McCoy, Kamara, and Hill, and all are healthy now, but probably some will have injuries the rest of the way. Its easy to see us being held without a TD with no receivers and any of them out.

Who was it that played QB? Oh, that's right, Spencer Rattler and Haener both. How about our center that game? McCoy? Nope.

Wonder why we couldn't score against perhaps the best defense we'll face all season in their house? Hmmm?

Sinner 11-24-2024 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1005385)
No. Your idea of reality simply differs from mine. Wallow in your misery. :rolleyes:

At 4-7, with a percentage of .364, third place in our pathetic division, reality is real. Wallow in your ecstasy.

AsylumGuido 11-25-2024 08:44 AM

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AsylumGuido 11-25-2024 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1005390)
At 4-7, with a percentage of .364, third place in our pathetic division, reality is real. Wallow in your ecstasy.

I never wallow in anything. That is reality. Positivity is a personal decision that becomes a way of life. A healthy way of life. Honestly, having God in your life makes it easier.

:cool:

Sinner 11-25-2024 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1005394)
I never wallow in anything. That is reality. Positivity is a personal decision that becomes a way of life. A healthy way of life. Honestly, having God in your life makes it easier.

:cool:

Good point. It is a great consolation to know that you might get to heaven before the Saints get to the Playoffs again.

AsylumGuido 11-25-2024 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1005396)
Good point. It is a great consolation to know that you might get to heaven before the Saints get to the Playoffs again.

If I do I do. And I'll be fine with that. And I'll enjoy being able to watch every play between now and then.

:cool:

:bng:


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