The Saints Could Theoretically Give Derek Carr A True Pay Cut Ultimatum

K Major · 02-17-2025, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I can put up with a rebuilding year. What I can't do is watch us draft players again with high RAS scores and potential that need development.

Plural. Years.

It’s going to take a while to clean up this mess that has happened over the last 4-5 years with Loomis.

Restructures, cuts, new scheme, culture etc.

Saints MUST rebuild this team through the draft. That is the only way you are going to become competitive at this level & not just winning 8 or 9 games & drawing up some mathematical equation to ensure a playoff (4 years and counting) spot.

I hope Kellen Moore is up to the task. It’s going to be a difficult road ahead.

jnormand · 02-17-2025, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Plural. Years.

It’s going to take a while to clean up this mess that has happened over the last 4-5 years with Loomis.

Restructures, cuts, new scheme, culture etc.

Saints MUST rebuild this team through the draft. That is the only way you are going to become competitive at this level & not just winning 8 or 9 games & drawing up some mathematical equation to ensure a playoff (4 years and counting) spot.

I hope Kellen Moore is up to the task. It’s going to be a difficult road ahead.

I agree. This team is gonna be a basement dweller for at least the next 2 seasons.

That said, I look forward to and am hopeful for the gradual improvements.

Rugby Saint II · 02-23-2025, 04:02 PM

Denver looked pretty good after just one season with Payton. Just sayin'.

K Major · 02-23-2025, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Denver looked pretty good after just one season with Payton. Just sayin'.

Good coaches & a proven GM.

They also have a young, talented roster.

BakoSaint · 02-23-2025, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Denver looked pretty good after just one season with Payton. Just sayin'.

Denver did not have the biggest salary cap deficit in the league by a large margin with about the oldest roster in the league when Payton took over. Also Denver did not truly turn the corner with Payton until they cut bait on a mediocre QB making $40 million who many argued was better than trusting some unproven rookie.

We can follow denvers model but that model requires getting our cap right and cutting the mediocre old QB and other old expensive unproductive players. But since we are in worse cap position than Denver we cant wait a year to cut Carr we need to do it now.

02-17-2025, 02:10 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,883 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Saints Could Theoretically Give Derek Carr A True Pay Cut Ultimatum Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I can put up with a rebuilding year. What I can't do is watch us draft players again with high RAS scores and potential that need development. Plural. Years. It’s going to take a while to clean up this mess that has happened over the last 4-5 years with Loomis. Restructures, cuts, new scheme, culture etc. Saints MUST rebuild this team through the draft. That is the only way you are going to become competitive at this level & not just winning 8 or 9 games & drawing up some mathematical equation to ensure a playoff (4 years and counting) spot. I hope Kellen Moore is up to the task. It’s going to be a difficult road ahead. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-17-2025, 03:43 PM	#2
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,795	Re: The Saints Could Theoretically Give Derek Carr A True Pay Cut Ultimatum Originally Posted by K Major Plural. Years. It’s going to take a while to clean up this mess that has happened over the last 4-5 years with Loomis. Restructures, cuts, new scheme, culture etc. Saints MUST rebuild this team through the draft. That is the only way you are going to become competitive at this level & not just winning 8 or 9 games & drawing up some mathematical equation to ensure a playoff (4 years and counting) spot. I hope Kellen Moore is up to the task. It’s going to be a difficult road ahead. I agree. This team is gonna be a basement dweller for at least the next 2 seasons. That said, I look forward to and am hopeful for the gradual improvements.

02-23-2025, 04:02 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,203	Re: The Saints Could Theoretically Give Derek Carr A True Pay Cut Ultimatum Denver looked pretty good after just one season with Payton. Just sayin'.

02-23-2025, 04:23 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,883 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Saints Could Theoretically Give Derek Carr A True Pay Cut Ultimatum Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Denver looked pretty good after just one season with Payton. Just sayin'. Good coaches & a proven GM. They also have a young, talented roster.

02-23-2025, 05:18 PM	#5
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,447	Re: The Saints Could Theoretically Give Derek Carr A True Pay Cut Ultimatum Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Denver looked pretty good after just one season with Payton. Just sayin'. Denver did not have the biggest salary cap deficit in the league by a large margin with about the oldest roster in the league when Payton took over. Also Denver did not truly turn the corner with Payton until they cut bait on a mediocre QB making $40 million who many argued was better than trusting some unproven rookie. We can follow denvers model but that model requires getting our cap right and cutting the mediocre old QB and other old expensive unproductive players. But since we are in worse cap position than Denver we cant wait a year to cut Carr we need to do it now.
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