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neugey 02-13-2025 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1007791)
What are some great players that tried and didn't make good coaches? I was trying to remember some, but must have went blank. Maybe they all had enough money that they didn't want to deal with the headaches. :D

I did think of Ditka. Definitely a great player. He wasn't good at New Orleans, but won a chamionship with Chicago, right? Anyone else think of other examples good or bad? Succeeded or failed?

Primetime, maybe?

In the NBA it's a thing. Magic Johnson, Steve Nash, and I feel like I'm forgetting others.

neugey 02-13-2025 06:20 PM
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Also Jeff Saturday

arsaint 02-14-2025 08:02 AM
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Given Brees' prep and football IQ I think he would be a good QB coach.

All that being said, time is money and I am not sure we could afford his time...

AsylumGuido 02-14-2025 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 1007812)
Given Brees' prep and football IQ I think he would be a good QB coach.

All that being said, time is money and I am not sure we could afford his time...
Coaches don't count against the cap. It doesn't matter how much they get paid. Gayle is the second richest person in Louisiana.

vpheughan 02-14-2025 10:08 AM
Re: Drew Brees and Reggie Bush as Saints Coaches?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1007791)
What are some great players that tried and didn't make good coaches? I was trying to remember some, but must have went blank. Maybe they all had enough money that they didn't want to deal with the headaches. :D

I did think of Ditka. Definitely a great player. He wasn't good at New Orleans, but won a chamionship with Chicago, right? Anyone else think of other examples good or bad? Succeeded or failed?

Primetime, maybe?
1. Bart Starr
2. Mike Singletary
3. Herm Edwards
4. Art Shell

BakoSaint 02-14-2025 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1007818)
Coaches don't count against the cap. It doesn't matter how much they get paid. Gayle is the second richest person in Louisiana.
It doesnt matter a lot but it does matter a little because the more they are paid the more it entices management to let them finish out their contract even if they struggle. You dont get rich by paying people bug bucks not to work so many owners are hesitant to take thaf big hit. If DA was making $20 million a year he might still be head coach.

TheOak 02-22-2025 02:22 AM
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I’ve been in too many organizations where someone that was very good in a STEM field or specific application was promoted into a managerial role with catastrophic results.

A quick change of the phrasing eliminates confirmation bias. How many great coaches were great players?

How many businesses have you seen fail because someone with talent while working ‘in the business’ didn’t translate to talent working ‘on the business’?

Same goes for leading people. Great motivators are rarely great something else’s and vice versa.

neugey 02-22-2025 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 1007996)
I’ve been in too many organizations where someone that was very good in a STEM field or specific application was promoted into a managerial role with catastrophic results.

A quick change of the phrasing eliminates confirmation bias. How many great coaches were great players?

How many businesses have you seen fail because someone with talent while working ‘in the business’ didn’t translate to talent working ‘on the business’?

Same goes for leading people. Great motivators are rarely great something else’s and vice versa.

Great leadership can look different. Even in football there is no archetype. Bill Belichick, Tom Osborne, Jimmy Johnson, Tom Landry, etc. are all different from each other. If you can inspire trust and motivate people without being a hypocrite or a liar that's a start.

4everSaint 02-22-2025 08:21 AM
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Key word Reggie used. "Anomaly." About Dan Campbell. I had them going to the SB this year. But they couldn't get it done. In their house.

Rugby Saint II 02-23-2025 04:09 PM
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I wouldn't mind seeing what they have to offer in TC.


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