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[SmashMouth]

Sean Payton warns teams that passed on Shedeur Sanders in NFL draft

Why doesn't SP pick him I wonder?

[saintsfan1976]

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Sean Payton warns teams that passed on Shedeur Sanders in NFL draft

Why doesn't SP pick him I wonder?

I've read that a major point of emphasis in interviews has been determining the "love" or "want" to play football. Many NIL kids lost their drive after making millions before their 21st birthday.

I'm not accusing Sanders of this, but the optics are there. The chains, the watches, the media appearances, the draft room set up...

The new mentality can be difficult to coach and today you need a good psychologist just as much as you need good scouts and coaches.

[keithday123]

I hope the Saints grab either Kennard or Sawyer today. I think both of them will be solid players for years in the NFL. Definite value in round 4

[BakoSaint]

Also, for what its worth, maybe by drafting Texas players in the 1st and 3rd rounds the Saints are setting themselves up to recruit Arch Manning in a future draft. Lets say that Tyler Shough has to start and gets us the #1 overall pick. We still need Arch Manning to declare for the draft knowing the Saints have that pick, and not to pull an Eli regarding telling the Saints not to draft him. Having two former top Texas teammates already on the Saints should help with that recruiting. Its more awkward to say you can't ever go there when several of your respected college teammates are already on the team, unless they say bad things about it to him of course.

And yes, I get that Arch hasn't done anything extraordinary at the college level yet, just looked pretty good in limited time. But when I factor in his age and his competition (Ewers was the #1 overall recruit in the nation two years before Manning was), his unprecedented pedigree, his high school records, his size, and his speed, I am all in on Arch at this point. If the 2026 draft were today, I would take him #1 overall.

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Also, for what its worth, maybe by drafting Texas players in the 1st and 3rd rounds the Saints are setting themselves up to recruit Arch Manning in a future draft. Lets say that Tyler Shough has to start and gets us the #1 overall pick. We still need Arch Manning to declare for the draft knowing the Saints have that pick, and not to pull an Eli regarding telling the Saints not to draft him. Having two former top Texas teammates already on the Saints should help with that recruiting. Its more awkward to say you can't ever go there when several of your respected college teammates are already on the team, unless they say bad things about it to him of course.

And yes, I get that Arch hasn't done anything extraordinary at the college level yet, just looked pretty good in limited time. But when I factor in his age and his competition (Ewers was the #1 overall recruit in the nation two years before Manning was), his unprecedented pedigree, his high school records, his size, and his speed, I am all in on Arch at this point. If the 2026 draft were today, I would take him #1 overall.

Honestly, Bako, where do you come up with this goofy crap?

[BakoSaint]

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Honestly, Bako, where do you come up with this goofy crap?

If the Saints have a top pick next year and a need at QB, and Arch is a top QB in the draft, do you think it won't be discussed that the Saints took Texas players in the 1st and 3rd this year?

[papz]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8jvYG8T/

https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/19...2F118424960%2F

Regarding Sanders, teams just don’t want to deal with this. You just don’t draft him, you draft the entire circus and the minute he’s on your team, it becomes a major distraction. What sf76 said also factors in. Quite a few analysts have shared the thought.

I’m waiting to be pleasantly surprised with Shough. I certainly don’t love the pick but some had him graded as the best quarterback in the draft. People tend to get caught up in “draft rankings” while in reality, teams don’t give a crap about how some media head ranks these players.

[rezburna]

Everything after Kelvin Banks has been questionable at best. Banks is going to be great. I have no doubt in my mind.

Tyler Shough is about to be given 2 or 3 years to prove Loomis right and then they'll be right back in the QB market. He's not an accurate QB. He's not an elite processor before the snap. He panics when he senses pressure. He's a lesser version of Derek Carr who couldn't light it up in the ACC as a 6th year senior. Most of the forum has never heard of him and has never watched a game of his because most fans don't watch football, they watch the team they like. I watched Shough. If you want to take a flyer on size and potential you take an athletic freak like Milroe. All the attempts to justify picking a guy like that in that spot that you haven't watched based on YouTube highlights and a synopsis of his strengths and weaknesses is crazy. The film. The injury history. The stats. Nothing about him says 2nd round pick.

Vernon Broughton is cool, but you take him over a big, athletic EDGE rusher like Landon Jackson who then goes the very next pick to a well run organization...the Buffalo Bills. Kaleb Johnson was still on the board. Savion Williams was still on the board. Emery Jones. What did we even draft? A 3-4 DE? A 4-3 DT? Is he going to be a 3-4 NT? There are several DT prospects still available....

Then there's Jonas Sanker. A young DB that's not being brought in to start for obvious reasons. A special teams draft pick. Is safety a pressing need for the Saints? I wouldn't say so. I can't pass much judgement on him. I didn't watch much of any VA football the last few years. Would have been a good time to trade drown and gather more picks for depth.

The vision for this team is blurry just as it is for the Pelicans and there are a few common denominators.

[SmashMouth]

Originally Posted by rezburna

Everything after Kelvin Banks has been questionable at best. Banks is going to be great. I have no doubt in my mind.

Tyler Shough is about to be given 2 or 3 years to prove Loomis right and then they'll be right back in the QB market. He's not an accurate QB. He's not an elite processor before the snap. He panics when he senses pressure. He's a lesser version of Derek Carr who couldn't light it up in the ACC as a 6th year senior. Most of the forum has never heard of him and has never watched a game of his because most fans don't watch football, they watch the team they like. I watched Shough. If you want to take a flyer on size and potential you take an athletic freak like Milroe. All the attempts to justify picking a guy like that in that spot that you haven't watched based on YouTube highlights and a synopsis of his strengths and weaknesses is crazy. The film. The injury history. The stats. Nothing about him says 2nd round pick.

Vernon Broughton is cool, but you take him over a big, athletic EDGE rusher like Landon Jackson who then goes the very next pick to a well run organization...the Buffalo Bills. Kaleb Johnson was still on the board. Savion Williams was still on the board. Emery Jones. What did we even draft? A 3-4 DE? A 4-3 DT? Is he going to be a 3-4 NT? There are several DT prospects still available....

Then there's Jonas Sanker. A young DB that's not being brought in to start for obvious reasons. A special teams draft pick. Is safety a pressing need for the Saints? I wouldn't say so. I can't pass much judgement on him. I didn't watch much of any VA football the last few years. Would have been a good time to trade drown and gather more picks for depth.

The vision for this team is blurry just as it is for the Pelicans and there are a few common denominators.

All valid points... I think they are also looking at quality at the point in the draft and the demand for that position and their needs going forward with what changes they plan on making for their new schemes. We'll see how it all works out with this new staff.

[rezburna]

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

All valid points... I think they are also looking at quality at the point in the draft and the demand for that position and their needs going forward with what changes they plan on making for their new schemes. We'll see how it all works out with this new staff.

I like what the Bills did right after with T.J. Sanders, DT, South Carolina. He would have been a major upgrade at that spot. Mason Taylor was still there. He's definitely a fan favorite. Alfred Collins was the better of the Texas defensive linemen and he was still there. Plus he's bigger and more versatile. Will Johnson, Elijah Arroyo, Tre Harris, Nic Scourton, Andrew Mukuba, etc. I believe there was so much more value there and QB's were never about to start flying off the boards. I'd argue Shough would have still been there in the 3rd where they took Broughton. I can't lie, this has been one of the most disappointing weekends of football for me in my entire life. This reminds me of Kevin Kolb.