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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Everything after Kelvin Banks has been questionable at best. Banks is going to be great. I have no doubt in my mind. Tyler Shough is about to be given 2 or 3 years to prove Loomis right and then they'll ...

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Old 04-26-2025, 11:18 AM   #1
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Everything after Kelvin Banks has been questionable at best. Banks is going to be great. I have no doubt in my mind.

Tyler Shough is about to be given 2 or 3 years to prove Loomis right and then they'll be right back in the QB market. He's not an accurate QB. He's not an elite processor before the snap. He panics when he senses pressure. He's a lesser version of Derek Carr who couldn't light it up in the ACC as a 6th year senior. Most of the forum has never heard of him and has never watched a game of his because most fans don't watch football, they watch the team they like. I watched Shough. If you want to take a flyer on size and potential you take an athletic freak like Milroe. All the attempts to justify picking a guy like that in that spot that you haven't watched based on YouTube highlights and a synopsis of his strengths and weaknesses is crazy. The film. The injury history. The stats. Nothing about him says 2nd round pick.

Vernon Broughton is cool, but you take him over a big, athletic EDGE rusher like Landon Jackson who then goes the very next pick to a well run organization...the Buffalo Bills. Kaleb Johnson was still on the board. Savion Williams was still on the board. Emery Jones. What did we even draft? A 3-4 DE? A 4-3 DT? Is he going to be a 3-4 NT? There are several DT prospects still available....

Then there's Jonas Sanker. A young DB that's not being brought in to start for obvious reasons. A special teams draft pick. Is safety a pressing need for the Saints? I wouldn't say so. I can't pass much judgement on him. I didn't watch much of any VA football the last few years. Would have been a good time to trade drown and gather more picks for depth.

The vision for this team is blurry just as it is for the Pelicans and there are a few common denominators.
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Old 04-26-2025, 11:30 AM   #2
 
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Everything after Kelvin Banks has been questionable at best. Banks is going to be great. I have no doubt in my mind.

Tyler Shough is about to be given 2 or 3 years to prove Loomis right and then they'll be right back in the QB market. He's not an accurate QB. He's not an elite processor before the snap. He panics when he senses pressure. He's a lesser version of Derek Carr who couldn't light it up in the ACC as a 6th year senior. Most of the forum has never heard of him and has never watched a game of his because most fans don't watch football, they watch the team they like. I watched Shough. If you want to take a flyer on size and potential you take an athletic freak like Milroe. All the attempts to justify picking a guy like that in that spot that you haven't watched based on YouTube highlights and a synopsis of his strengths and weaknesses is crazy. The film. The injury history. The stats. Nothing about him says 2nd round pick.

Vernon Broughton is cool, but you take him over a big, athletic EDGE rusher like Landon Jackson who then goes the very next pick to a well run organization...the Buffalo Bills. Kaleb Johnson was still on the board. Savion Williams was still on the board. Emery Jones. What did we even draft? A 3-4 DE? A 4-3 DT? Is he going to be a 3-4 NT? There are several DT prospects still available....

Then there's Jonas Sanker. A young DB that's not being brought in to start for obvious reasons. A special teams draft pick. Is safety a pressing need for the Saints? I wouldn't say so. I can't pass much judgement on him. I didn't watch much of any VA football the last few years. Would have been a good time to trade drown and gather more picks for depth.

The vision for this team is blurry just as it is for the Pelicans and there are a few common denominators.
All valid points... I think they are also looking at quality at the point in the draft and the demand for that position and their needs going forward with what changes they plan on making for their new schemes. We'll see how it all works out with this new staff.
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Old 04-26-2025, 11:37 AM   #3
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All valid points... I think they are also looking at quality at the point in the draft and the demand for that position and their needs going forward with what changes they plan on making for their new schemes. We'll see how it all works out with this new staff.
I like what the Bills did right after with T.J. Sanders, DT, South Carolina. He would have been a major upgrade at that spot. Mason Taylor was still there. He's definitely a fan favorite. Alfred Collins was the better of the Texas defensive linemen and he was still there. Plus he's bigger and more versatile. Will Johnson, Elijah Arroyo, Tre Harris, Nic Scourton, Andrew Mukuba, etc. I believe there was so much more value there and QB's were never about to start flying off the boards. I'd argue Shough would have still been there in the 3rd where they took Broughton. I can't lie, this has been one of the most disappointing weekends of football for me in my entire life. This reminds me of Kevin Kolb.

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