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Anything to let shough sit for at least 5 to 8 games and ease in. He needs to fix some footwork issues and get acclimated

dizzle88

Opens it up for competition between Shough and Rattler.

I think we need a veteran QB for the room though, just to help them with film breakdown etc

Never worked out with Carr.

neugey

I think we still have Ben Dinucci right to be the "veteran presence" if needed. Anyone else available isn't probably much better than him.

I'm glad the Saints and Derek decided to face the music rather than dragging this out if the shoulder was in very bad shape. Opinion of both has improved.

WW_Who_Dat

The Delta between Shough vs Rattler will need to be significant and painfully obvious that Shough is behind Rattler for Rattler to be game 1 starters . Moore’s 1st draft as a head coach, his 1st QB selected is a lot of capital to navigate. Not saying it can’t be done.

I would watch for potentially signed a veteran QB possibly someone Moore has worked with and has working insight to help out the QB room. Haener might not be safe. We don’t know what we don’t know it will be interesting.

Maybe now on reflection some the moves Mickey made looks have saved the team $30 million salary previously guaranteed for injury only.

It was scheduled to be !20 million in 2025 and 60 million in 2026. Now &13.2 million 2025 and $35.7 in 2026.

jcp026

Time to give Aaron Rodgers 5 years and 300 million guaranteed.

Crusader

I wouldn't mind that at all. That would give us a chance to see what we really have in him. We should have most of the starters early in the season.


I don't dislike Carr but I'm kinda happy he is gone. Gives the new HC a clean slate and he don't HAVE to play the vet over the young guys.

BakoSaint

I am glad Derek Carr finally did the right thing. This will help the Saints a lot for the long term future of their salary cap if they don't blow the money on Aaron Rodgers or some ill advised extension to a player like Olave or Penning.

I do wish the Saints management had been more transparent with fans about Derek Carrs shoulder.

If we do pay Aaron Rodgers, I don't like it, and I hope its as little guaranteed as possible, but its better than paying Carr I think, since Rodgers has won playoff games.

I think it is better to roll with Rattler and Shough because I dont think a 'safe' veteran QB makes us championship contenders, and I see more upside in either winning 7 games with a young up and coming QB or losing 17 games with a young up and coming QB and having a top draft pick to replace them than I see with winning 8 games with a veteran QB and maybe getting the opportunity to be destroyed in the wild card round in the dome if Tampa chokes and loses the division.

I wonder when Carr sustained this shoulder injury. Does anyone have the story straight on whether it was sustained against the Giants on the same play as the hand and concussion or whether it was an earlier injury from 2023 or prior? The reports say it didnt become apparent until he started throwing again after the hand injury, but does that mean he sustained it at the same time, and injured his throwing shoulder, non-throwing hand, and head all on the same play? Or is it a non-football injury or pre-Saints injury, explaining why he is willing to give the money back.

Also, I think its possible Carr wants to play for another team in 2026, and this retirement might be temporary. I have not seen quotes on the matter. Its possible that retiring and giving back cash is a way for the Saints and Carr to agree on terms that will make him able to talk to other teams and to unretire and be a free agent in March 2026 at the start of that free agency. Had Carr sat out the year on IR in 2025, the Saints would have had no reason to release him early in the 2026 offseason, because there were no triggers in his contract to force an early decision, and actually waiting to release him after June 1 would have had more benefits than designating him a post-June-1 cut in March. If Carr unretired in March 2026 I think the Saints could instantly cut him, both to avoid a $50 million cap charge and get under the cap, and to return the favor from Carr giving back the $30 million. But I dont know the full salary cap rules in a situation where a player retired and gave back money and unretired, that would be a very rare scenario that is not frequently explained.

iceshack149

Considering that the Saints fanbase, by and large, didn't accept or like Derek Carr, I appreciate Carr retiring and saving the Saints cap money.

stickman

Apparently it's going to be a competition.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/d...-starting-job/

spkb25

Should sign a veteran and let them or rattle start the season. Let shough come in midseason.