Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings

saintsfan1976 · 06-24-2025, 10:48 AM

I can see both sides.

But if we're guaranteeing money, what guarantee does the franchise receive in exchange?

AsylumGuido · 06-24-2025, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I can see both sides.

But if we're guaranteeing money, what guarantee does the franchise receive in exchange?

I suppose that the agent doesn't hold the player out. But realistically, 2nd rounder salaries are only $1.79 million to $2.95 million a year over the four year term of the contract and a decent percentage of them make and stay with the team for the short haul, at least. That's really not that much to guarantee in the scheme of things.

saintsfan1976 · 06-24-2025, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I suppose that the agent doesn't hold the player out. But realistically, 2nd rounder salaries are only $1.79 million to $2.95 million a year over the four year term of the contract and a decent percentage of them make and stay with the team for the short haul, at least. That's really not that much to guarantee in the scheme of things.

interesting. A "decent percentage" according to research is approximately 27%.

From years 2000-2017, only 27% of the second round picks signed a second contract with the same team.

Injuries, coaching changes, performance, etc all play into it but that's a small number especially compared to 1st rounders (46% retention rate).

I just don't see the value in it unless the team receives a guarantee in return.

06-24-2025, 10:48 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,057 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings I can see both sides. But if we're guaranteeing money, what guarantee does the franchise receive in exchange?

06-24-2025, 12:12 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,763	Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I can see both sides. But if we're guaranteeing money, what guarantee does the franchise receive in exchange? I suppose that the agent doesn't hold the player out. But realistically, 2nd rounder salaries are only $1.79 million to $2.95 million a year over the four year term of the contract and a decent percentage of them make and stay with the team for the short haul, at least. That's really not that much to guarantee in the scheme of things. WW_Who_Dat likes this.

06-24-2025, 07:14 PM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,057 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I suppose that the agent doesn't hold the player out. But realistically, 2nd rounder salaries are only $1.79 million to $2.95 million a year over the four year term of the contract and a decent percentage of them make and stay with the team for the short haul, at least. That's really not that much to guarantee in the scheme of things. interesting. A "decent percentage" according to research is approximately 27%. From years 2000-2017, only 27% of the second round picks signed a second contract with the same team. Injuries, coaching changes, performance, etc all play into it but that's a small number especially compared to 1st rounders (46% retention rate). I just don't see the value in it unless the team receives a guarantee in return. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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