Is it safe to say...

leilung · 08-18-2025, 06:40 AM

...that there is no Ace QB1 currently on our roster? Seems like we have interrim QB's but not the future of the franchise in Haener, Rattler, or Shough.

I've never been a tank kind of guy but this season is going to be a bad one on offense. Arch? Are we in the running?

stickman · 08-18-2025, 08:05 AM

I am trying not to be too hard on Shough since he is a rookie with only limited time, in preseason games, to judge him on. But I really don't see anything to get excited about.

I think Rattler gives us our best chance at winning. And that chance is small.

voodooido · 08-18-2025, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

I am trying not to be too hard on Shough since he is a rookie with only limited time, in preseason games, to judge him on. But I really don't see anything to get excited about.

I think Rattler gives us our best chance at winning. And that chance is small.

Why don’t assume Rat gives us a better chance? He went 0-6 last year against technically, even playing with all the backups, he should have slipped up on a win. Shough has played better in the preseason and has only been in the roster 4 months. So quick to give up on him but Rat is given chance after chance.

rezburna · 08-18-2025, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Why don’t assume Rat gives us a better chance? He went 0-6 last year against technically, even playing with all the backups, he should have slipped up on a win. Shough has played better in the preseason and has only been in the roster 4 months. So quick to give up on him but Rat is given chance after chance.

I'd say for the same reasons people are pretending like Shough gives us a good chance to win as if he wasn't a mediocre, journeyman QB in college that was completing just barely over 60% of his passes in conferences that aren't known for defensive intensity. Shough played for three different teams over the course of 6 years in college. His whole career has been built on second and third chances. We just got to watch Shough with Olave and Shaheed. We've never seen Rattler with them. They're giving him every opportunity to run away with the job and he can't separate from the 5th round pick of a previous regime. Rookie or not, Shough is older than Rattler. Ratt went 21-10 in college. Shough? 16-14.

SmashMouth · 08-18-2025, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I'd say for the same reasons people are pretending like Shough gives us a good chance to win as if he wasn't a mediocre, journeyman QB in college that was completing just barely over 60% of his passes in conferences that aren't known for defensive intensity. Shough played for three different teams over the course of 6 years in college. His whole career has been built on second and third chances. We just got to watch Shough with Olave and Shaheed. We've never seen Rattler with them. They're giving him every opportunity to run away with the job and he can't separate from the 5th round pick of a previous regime. Rookie or not, Shough is older than Rattler. Ratt went 21-10 in college. Shough? 16-14.

Maybe we shoulda got Joe Flacco?

rezburna · 08-18-2025, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Maybe we shoulda got Joe Flacco?

I saw somebody say we should trade for Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't see the point of bringing in a vet. We've seen it play out with Jameis, Dalton, Carr, etc.

Halo · 08-18-2025, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Maybe we shoulda got Joe Flacco?

Doesn't matter who is at QB, if this offensive line doesn't tighten up, it's going to be a looooong season. Seriously.

papz · 08-18-2025, 08:08 AM

Will we be in the running for Arch? Yes if he declares.

SmashMouth · 08-18-2025, 08:55 AM

Trent Dilfer says hello. He sports a SB ring. There are others.

leilung · 08-18-2025, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Trent Dilfer says hello. He sports a SB ring. There are others.

Dilfer (and others) had slam dunk, shut down Defenses behind them. We do not. Not even close.

08-18-2025, 06:40 AM	#1
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,438	Is it safe to say... ...that there is no Ace QB1 currently on our roster? Seems like we have interrim QB's but not the future of the franchise in Haener, Rattler, or Shough. I've never been a tank kind of guy but this season is going to be a bad one on offense. Arch? Are we in the running?

08-18-2025, 08:05 AM	#2
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,820	Re: Is it safe to say... I am trying not to be too hard on Shough since he is a rookie with only limited time, in preseason games, to judge him on. But I really don't see anything to get excited about. I think Rattler gives us our best chance at winning. And that chance is small. leilung likes this.

08-18-2025, 03:12 PM	#3
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,865	Re: Is it safe to say... Originally Posted by stickman I am trying not to be too hard on Shough since he is a rookie with only limited time, in preseason games, to judge him on. But I really don't see anything to get excited about. I think Rattler gives us our best chance at winning. And that chance is small. Why don’t assume Rat gives us a better chance? He went 0-6 last year against technically, even playing with all the backups, he should have slipped up on a win. Shough has played better in the preseason and has only been in the roster 4 months. So quick to give up on him but Rat is given chance after chance.
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08-18-2025, 04:02 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,190	Re: Is it safe to say... Originally Posted by voodooido Why don’t assume Rat gives us a better chance? He went 0-6 last year against technically, even playing with all the backups, he should have slipped up on a win. Shough has played better in the preseason and has only been in the roster 4 months. So quick to give up on him but Rat is given chance after chance. I'd say for the same reasons people are pretending like Shough gives us a good chance to win as if he wasn't a mediocre, journeyman QB in college that was completing just barely over 60% of his passes in conferences that aren't known for defensive intensity. Shough played for three different teams over the course of 6 years in college. His whole career has been built on second and third chances. We just got to watch Shough with Olave and Shaheed. We've never seen Rattler with them. They're giving him every opportunity to run away with the job and he can't separate from the 5th round pick of a previous regime. Rookie or not, Shough is older than Rattler. Ratt went 21-10 in college. Shough? 16-14.
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08-18-2025, 05:12 PM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,219 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Is it safe to say... Originally Posted by rezburna I'd say for the same reasons people are pretending like Shough gives us a good chance to win as if he wasn't a mediocre, journeyman QB in college that was completing just barely over 60% of his passes in conferences that aren't known for defensive intensity. Shough played for three different teams over the course of 6 years in college. His whole career has been built on second and third chances. We just got to watch Shough with Olave and Shaheed. We've never seen Rattler with them. They're giving him every opportunity to run away with the job and he can't separate from the 5th round pick of a previous regime. Rookie or not, Shough is older than Rattler. Ratt went 21-10 in college. Shough? 16-14. Maybe we shoulda got Joe Flacco? Sinner likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,190	Re: Is it safe to say... Originally Posted by SmashMouth Maybe we shoulda got Joe Flacco? I saw somebody say we should trade for Jimmy Garoppolo. I don't see the point of bringing in a vet. We've seen it play out with Jameis, Dalton, Carr, etc. AsylumGuido and SmashMouth like this.

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08-18-2025, 09:28 AM	#10
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,438	Re: Is it safe to say... Originally Posted by SmashMouth Trent Dilfer says hello. He sports a SB ring. There are others. Dilfer (and others) had slam dunk, shut down Defenses behind them. We do not. Not even close.