Peter King

CheramieIII · 10-31-2005, 08:30 PM

I say we keep Brooks as our second, cut Bouman, AMAC as the number three and get another good QB hell anybody can be more of a leader then Brooks. He is becoming awful.

CheramieIII · 10-31-2005, 09:24 PM

I am telling you that AB is not a leader. I don't care where you read it or heard it before, I am telling you from experience in the USMC and Business for 30 years. A leader does not stand on the side lines laughing and having a good time when they are losing by 20. I'm not talking about yesterday alone, you can pick the game, any game.

How many times does he get called for delay of game, when the game is on the line? How many times does he fumble when no one has touched him? How many times does he throw an interception into the end zone? No sense of urgency, EVER!

You can try and defend that all you want, but there has to be a leader on the field and there is, but everyone is following him into the crapper. If you don't believe it fine. But make a point other than asking questions about everyone elses points.

Bobby Hebert was a leader. The team believed in him and did everything for him. He did'nt have half the skills that AB does but had alot of heart and integrity. Two words that AB has only seen in movies, oh he probably didn't see those movies either.

We cut the playbook in half this year to accomodate Mr. Brooks and he still can't get it right. You can throw the ball as hard as you want but it's the reception that counts. Mr. Brooks has worn out his (reception) and I was being nice when I said a second stringer. The Packers let him go for a reason and it was because he is not smart and has no common sense, hence the reason for the playbook experiment after 5 years. He still can't do it and never will. We should have kept Delhomme, yes I said it. Delhomme seems to win does'nt he?

I will rest my damn case now, before I pop an artery and if you are going to come back with, " tell me where it says he's not a leader", then I will know why you are defending him! Have a few leadership issues do we?

lynwood · 10-31-2005, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

I say we keep Brooks as our second, cut Bouman, AMAC as the number three and get another good QB hell anybody can be more of a leader then Brooks. He is becoming awful.

I'm still at a loss, I guess my post went completely over your head. What does AB leadership or lack their of have to do with why this team sucks? Is he the reason? Cause if he is then that means we would've been winning all those years before he got here right?

Dude you are always at a loss. You are the ONLY one in this thread that defends AB. Heck probably the only one in this forum nowadays. Your're like the weird uncle that comes over uninvited and can't figure out why everyone looks at you funny. I know I said that I would not reply to your posts nymore but I guess I gotta have "Faith" that something will "clique" with you and you discover the error of your ways.

CheramieIII · 10-31-2005, 11:04 PM

Thanks Wood, BOB needs a reality check.

Euphoria · 11-01-2005, 12:35 AM

Why can't anyone see the the problem is EVERYWHERES... Its the line its the D its the coaching its the ownership. Some people seem to think we get rid of brooks and that solves everything. Doesn't matter who you put up behind our line he'll suck... Didn't Brooks have a better game than Farve this past weekend?

saintz08 · 11-01-2005, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Why can't anyone see the the problem is EVERYWHERES... Its the line its the D its the coaching its the ownership. Some people seem to think we get rid of brooks and that solves everything. Doesn't matter who you put up behind our line he'll suck... Didn't Brooks have a better game than Farve this past weekend?

Do you think you could work a little Peyton Manning action behind our line ??

I would love to see that ......

LordOfEntropy · 11-01-2005, 03:27 AM

Brooks is a fool. Benson is an even bigger fool.

Anyone that can't see that isn't worth talking to.

Saint_LB · 11-01-2005, 07:51 AM

Here's what really bugs me. In the past 10 years or so there have been three very highly publicized QB's who grew up in NO or the vicinity, and after their college careers were over, we didn't even make a push at getting any one of them. You all know their names...I don't even have to mention them. My concerns about this franchise and it's true intentions began when I saw this happen. Why wouldn't you want local, talented kids playing for you? Why wouldn't you go after them? Why do we have to settle for watching a clown for the last five years? The decision to remain satisfied with the present cast and not make a play for some real players has caused me to lose a lot of fire as a fan of this team. I feel that I have been betrayed.

APSaintsfan · 11-01-2005, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy

Jeff Blake took us to 10-6 in 2000. Though Aaron played the playoff game, it was not Brooks that got us there.

IMO, the wrong choice was made the following season. I know Blake opened cold, and the broken leg was a concern. Still, I think Blake earned 2001 year as the starter. Instead, Brooks was chosen, given a phat contract, and the team has teeeeeetered ever since, then spiraled downward. Blake should've been chosen, and a young quarterback should've been drafted or traded to groom behind him.

Still, my main gripe isn't with Aaron, or any other player on the team, for that matter. Rather, I believe the fundamental problem starts at the top, in particular at the desk of Tom Benson (for evidence, see R. Meuller, A Fielkow). He's an idiot, and whatever success this team may have achieved, he fired it before it could blossom.

Insert sarcasm here.... "boy, trading away Ricky Williams for two first round draft picks just before he decides to retire, well, what a -BONEHEAD- move. It's -such- an idiot move, lemme just fire the guy who made that terrible decision." -- Translation, Benson is an idiot, and should keep his nose out of operations.

Seriously, though, as long as Benson owns this team, it'll never be successful. I'm waiting for him to die. Coldblooded as it sounds, perhaps we'll finally taste success after that cretin expires.

Blake took us to 7-4 and part of his last game when he broke his leg and Brooks finished up the game that we already were going to win. So Blake was more than likely going to be 8-4. Brooks was actually only 2-2 in 2000. But Thank God he won our only playoff game. Blake should have been able to come back and start in 2001 but they thought Brooks was going to be a big star. After his first three full time seasons I think he was done then. Of course by the time he was done Jake was at Carolina by that time. I think it is time for us to try Adrian McPherson. He could be better than Michael Vick maybe but more athletic. If we start him now we could possibly finish at least 6-10. Just my thoughts.
Peace
8)

xan · 11-01-2005, 08:57 AM

6-10?? Are you NUTS? While this could happen, do we want another year with Hasbeen, a mediocre draft relegating us to rant about the same things we've been moaning about for the last 3 years??? Let AB play himself into obscurity...Let Haslett lose control and get "redeployed"...Let Mr. Benson try to dress this pig up so that he can sell it to an ownership group that cares about the citizens who support it.

10-31-2005, 08:30 PM	#11
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King I say we keep Brooks as our second, cut Bouman, AMAC as the number three and get another good QB hell anybody can be more of a leader then Brooks. He is becoming awful.

10-31-2005, 09:24 PM	#12
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King I am telling you that AB is not a leader. I don't care where you read it or heard it before, I am telling you from experience in the USMC and Business for 30 years. A leader does not stand on the side lines laughing and having a good time when they are losing by 20. I'm not talking about yesterday alone, you can pick the game, any game. How many times does he get called for delay of game, when the game is on the line? How many times does he fumble when no one has touched him? How many times does he throw an interception into the end zone? No sense of urgency, EVER! You can try and defend that all you want, but there has to be a leader on the field and there is, but everyone is following him into the crapper. If you don't believe it fine. But make a point other than asking questions about everyone elses points. Bobby Hebert was a leader. The team believed in him and did everything for him. He did'nt have half the skills that AB does but had alot of heart and integrity. Two words that AB has only seen in movies, oh he probably didn't see those movies either. We cut the playbook in half this year to accomodate Mr. Brooks and he still can't get it right. You can throw the ball as hard as you want but it's the reception that counts. Mr. Brooks has worn out his (reception) and I was being nice when I said a second stringer. The Packers let him go for a reason and it was because he is not smart and has no common sense, hence the reason for the playbook experiment after 5 years. He still can't do it and never will. We should have kept Delhomme, yes I said it. Delhomme seems to win does'nt he? I will rest my damn case now, before I pop an artery and if you are going to come back with, " tell me where it says he's not a leader", then I will know why you are defending him! Have a few leadership issues do we?
	Golf and sex are about the only things you can enjoy without being good at them. Jimmy Demaret

10-31-2005, 10:39 PM	#13
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King Originally Posted by BlackonBlack I say we keep Brooks as our second, cut Bouman, AMAC as the number three and get another good QB hell anybody can be more of a leader then Brooks. He is becoming awful. I'm still at a loss, I guess my post went completely over your head. What does AB leadership or lack their of have to do with why this team sucks? Is he the reason? Cause if he is then that means we would've been winning all those years before he got here right? Dude you are always at a loss. You are the ONLY one in this thread that defends AB. Heck probably the only one in this forum nowadays. Your're like the weird uncle that comes over uninvited and can't figure out why everyone looks at you funny. I know I said that I would not reply to your posts nymore but I guess I gotta have "Faith" that something will "clique" with you and you discover the error of your ways.

10-31-2005, 11:04 PM	#14
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King Thanks Wood, BOB needs a reality check.

11-01-2005, 12:35 AM	#15
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King Why can't anyone see the the problem is EVERYWHERES... Its the line its the D its the coaching its the ownership. Some people seem to think we get rid of brooks and that solves everything. Doesn't matter who you put up behind our line he'll suck... Didn't Brooks have a better game than Farve this past weekend?

Latest Blogs
2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Last Blog: 08-01-2023 By: MarchingOn Puck the Fro Browl! Last Blog: 02-05-2023 By: neugey CFP: "Just Keep Doing What You're Doing" Last Blog: 12-08-2022 By: neugey

11-01-2005, 12:39 AM	#16
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King Originally Posted by Euphoria Why can't anyone see the the problem is EVERYWHERES... Its the line its the D its the coaching its the ownership. Some people seem to think we get rid of brooks and that solves everything. Doesn't matter who you put up behind our line he'll suck... Didn't Brooks have a better game than Farve this past weekend? Do you think you could work a little Peyton Manning action behind our line ?? I would love to see that ......
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020

11-01-2005, 03:27 AM	#17
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King Brooks is a fool. Benson is an even bigger fool. Anyone that can't see that isn't worth talking to.

11-01-2005, 07:51 AM	#18
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Here's what really bugs me. In the past 10 years or so there have been three very highly publicized QB's who grew up in NO or the vicinity, and after their college careers were over, we didn't even make a push at getting any one of them. You all know their names...I don't even have to mention them. My concerns about this franchise and it's true intentions began when I saw this happen. Why wouldn't you want local, talented kids playing for you? Why wouldn't you go after them? Why do we have to settle for watching a clown for the last five years? The decision to remain satisfied with the present cast and not make a play for some real players has caused me to lose a lot of fire as a fan of this team. I feel that I have been betrayed.
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894

11-01-2005, 08:43 AM	#19
APSaintsfan 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 119	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King Originally Posted by LordOfEntropy Jeff Blake took us to 10-6 in 2000. Though Aaron played the playoff game, it was not Brooks that got us there. IMO, the wrong choice was made the following season. I know Blake opened cold, and the broken leg was a concern. Still, I think Blake earned 2001 year as the starter. Instead, Brooks was chosen, given a phat contract, and the team has teeeeeetered ever since, then spiraled downward. Blake should've been chosen, and a young quarterback should've been drafted or traded to groom behind him. Still, my main gripe isn't with Aaron, or any other player on the team, for that matter. Rather, I believe the fundamental problem starts at the top, in particular at the desk of Tom Benson (for evidence, see R. Meuller, A Fielkow). He's an idiot, and whatever success this team may have achieved, he fired it before it could blossom. Insert sarcasm here.... "boy, trading away Ricky Williams for two first round draft picks just before he decides to retire, well, what a -BONEHEAD- move. It's -such- an idiot move, lemme just fire the guy who made that terrible decision." -- Translation, Benson is an idiot, and should keep his nose out of operations. Seriously, though, as long as Benson owns this team, it'll never be successful. I'm waiting for him to die. Coldblooded as it sounds, perhaps we'll finally taste success after that cretin expires. Blake took us to 7-4 and part of his last game when he broke his leg and Brooks finished up the game that we already were going to win. So Blake was more than likely going to be 8-4. Brooks was actually only 2-2 in 2000. But Thank God he won our only playoff game. Blake should have been able to come back and start in 2001 but they thought Brooks was going to be a big star. After his first three full time seasons I think he was done then. Of course by the time he was done Jake was at Carolina by that time. I think it is time for us to try Adrian McPherson. He could be better than Michael Vick maybe but more athletic. If we start him now we could possibly finish at least 6-10. Just my thoughts. Peace 8)

11-01-2005, 08:57 AM	#20
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Peter King 6-10?? Are you NUTS? While this could happen, do we want another year with Hasbeen, a mediocre draft relegating us to rant about the same things we've been moaning about for the last 3 years??? Let AB play himself into obscurity...Let Haslett lose control and get "redeployed"...Let Mr. Benson try to dress this pig up so that he can sell it to an ownership group that cares about the citizens who support it.