Congratulations go to Aaron Brooks....

TheGambler · 11-21-2005, 01:52 PM

I agree. When people around this forum hear "AB gets blamed for too much", it goes through their ears as "he is completely exempt from any and all blame".

Anybody with even a shred of common sense can see that this season is just "one of those years". Look around. The Vikings are having "one of those years". Even the Eagles are having it. Baltimore is another example. How about the Packers?

"One of those seasons" is characterized by having nearly everything imaginable go wrong, and very little going right. In Game 1, it looked like destiny might be on our side in Carolina, but almost as soon as the opening kickoff in the NYG game, it was apparent that the ride was headed downhill.

"One of those seasons" is characterized by being on the losing side of questionable officiating for 2 weeks in a row.

"One of those seasons" is characterized by intercepting a pass, and tripping over your own teammate, resulting in a fumble, and a subsequent turnover back to the offense.

"One of those seasons" is characterized by your QB throwing more INTs than TDs, when he has never done that in the past.

"One of those seasons" is characterized by losing what many would argue is the most potent Saints offensive player in Deuce McCallister (personally I don't think we've missed him all that much, but it's still big to lose your starting RB)

"One of those seasons" is characterized by a yellow flag flying in on key 3rd down defensive stoppages.

"One of those seasons" is characterized by needing the defense to hold the opposing team's offense just ONE...MORE....TIME.........and giving up a huge play into Saints territory which pretty much seals the game.

"One of those seasons" is characterized by completing a 25 yard pass on 2nd and 26, then failing to pick up 3rd and 1, and thus punting.

"One of those seasons" is characterized by a veteran kicker missing more than one short field goal to kill momentum.

mjf150 · 11-21-2005, 02:58 PM

TheGambler said, "I don't know, man.......I watch him.....and he can squeeze the ball into places that probably only 10% of the QBs out there can do..."

Like up his butt!

*Let me add that this is not a derogatory comment toward you, Gambler, it's just something funny that had to be said.

yasoon · 11-21-2005, 03:56 PM

I have seen folks in the online community say that Brooks played "great" yesterday. I am amazed by the lack of an eye alot of folks have. I give him a B-, it was not great.
He continues to hold the ball too long, he continues to miss receivers, he continues to run backwards, he continues to hit checkdown receivers for 1 yard. He missed horn in the endzone. He sputtered once we crossed midfield. I'll give him a pass on the pick, he had to throw it. But....he could have gotten another play out of it with some better clock management. Again, our offense fails to break 20.

The TD passes were very nice. Brooks made some good throws, but the consistency was not there, as always.

Now, the following things were not AB's fault:

John Carney.....please stop playing football. We all know that you lose some leg as you get older, but the old kickers are usually money inside of 45 yards. Bad things happen when he is on the field.

The secondary looked very confused. Not sure what's going on there. The D line looked decent and made a few things happen.

Was it not nice to see a team heave a few balls deep? Good God, when is the last time we did that? I don't know who to blame, but they softened us up with those deep balls. Our QB has a big arm, we got to the playoffs in 2000 by throwing 3-5 of those a game. (Blake threw a very nice deep ball and I think AB is capable of dropping one in there.) We never throw the ball behind the defense....it's perplexing.

The running game was OK.

More brainfart penalties and a timeout on the 2nd play of the game. Our team looks so stupid next to the pats, who wear their thinking caps every sunday.

I thought we were the better team yesterday. A false start knocks us out of FG range (it would have been a 49 yarder and we punted). Carney misses a gimme. The offense sputters at key moments.

I am so tired of watching my team have equal talen and come up short. The Pats D is depleted, their RB is out. We can't cover a TE and Smith just stands and watches while the WR goes for 70.

And if you think AB was great yesterday, look at Brady's numbers. Gus Frerotte had the same numbers AB did a week ago against the same D. Our offense still lacks the ability to really thorw some points on the board. I've been saying it all year.....we can't win with 17 points, or 6 points or 3 points. The defense was not great, but 24 points is not a ton. The Offense never picks up the slack. I don't want to hear about great when we're talking about a 50% passer against a beat up secondary. And for all the line bashers, AB had time to throw, he just couldn't pull the trigger in less than 5 seconds.

I've seen enough. You got your record big boy....now take that crap somewhere else.

Lifer · 11-21-2005, 04:14 PM

The record only means something in the context of the Saints - a perennial loser. Archie is loved and repsected for his character. The guy has guts and class. He endured what many could not have. AB broke his record for sure. And he got the mark in way fewer games. AB is a better QB. But so what. AB is the best of the worst. In the context of the NFL this record means nothing. Congrats!
Winning games is what matters. And we will never win consistenly with AB at the helm. No doubt the Saints have the best chance of winning week in, week out this season with Brooks at QB. But after this dismal season is behind us he has got to go. And I think it will be interesting to see just how little interest there is in him from other teams. No way will he command the kind of contract he has with the Saints. His real value will be determined.

saintswhodi · 11-21-2005, 05:47 PM

The last two posts pretty much said it all. Great game yesterday? LMAO!!! Great game leads to punt, punt, punt, downs, TD on the first 5 possessions. Missing Joe Horn with an overthrow, another time not seeing him at all wide open. The incompletions were terrible in the beginning, and there were times AB had ALL DAY to throw, he didn't, spun backward into the rush, ran around and threw a 2 yard pass. IT was stupid as normal. He finally had more TDs than turnovers, against the 31st ranked Pass D. Awesome job. Take that record and roll out.

saintswhodi · 11-21-2005, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

He finally had more TDs than turnovers, against the 31st ranked Pass D. Awesome job. Take that record and roll out.

Just think when we played the Bears you said they were among the worsts defensively. Did the Bears look like the worst while destroying Jake?

That's a lie. Go find it. I said they were one of the worst offensively, and they are. I ahve to appreciate the way you never mind looking like a fool.

lynwood · 11-21-2005, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

He finally had more TDs than turnovers, against the 31st ranked Pass D. Awesome job. Take that record and roll out.

Just think when we played the Bears you said they were among the worsts defensively. Did the Bears look like the worst while destroying Jake?

Dude you just love being abused...mostly by your own posts. Who really cares about Jake. I don't watch or listen to Jake play. I have the unfortunate luck of having to see Your bed buddy Brooks miss receivers all day. Seems that when Brooks plays like crap you try to compare him to Jake which no one else brings up but you. Why don't you compare him to Brady? His passes seemed to be on target most of the night. Here let me make this simple for you. Brooks Sucks. No go back to bed and stare at his poster on your ceiling.

CheramieIII · 11-21-2005, 09:59 PM

Amen, amen. END OF FREAKIN STORY!!!!!

TheGambler · 11-22-2005, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by yasoon

I have seen folks in the online community say that Brooks played "great" yesterday.

Musta been some other forum, I didn't see anybody say that here. He did have a good game though.......give him time to throw, and he could usually find Stallworth or Zach Hilton somewhere..

TallySaint · 11-22-2005, 10:59 AM

Blurb from FoxSports.com...

Fantasy QB Rankings

#14 Aaron Brooks

"Opponent adjustments for New England's poor pass defense knock this game down the list. By the way, if you added together all the yards Aaron Brooks runs backwards in one football season it would stretch from the earth to the moon. And back. Five times."

8)

11-21-2005, 01:52 PM	#21
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	I agree. When people around this forum hear "AB gets blamed for too much", it goes through their ears as "he is completely exempt from any and all blame". Anybody with even a shred of common sense can see that this season is just "one of those years". Look around. The Vikings are having "one of those years". Even the Eagles are having it. Baltimore is another example. How about the Packers? "One of those seasons" is characterized by having nearly everything imaginable go wrong, and very little going right. In Game 1, it looked like destiny might be on our side in Carolina, but almost as soon as the opening kickoff in the NYG game, it was apparent that the ride was headed downhill. "One of those seasons" is characterized by being on the losing side of questionable officiating for 2 weeks in a row. "One of those seasons" is characterized by intercepting a pass, and tripping over your own teammate, resulting in a fumble, and a subsequent turnover back to the offense. "One of those seasons" is characterized by your QB throwing more INTs than TDs, when he has never done that in the past. "One of those seasons" is characterized by losing what many would argue is the most potent Saints offensive player in Deuce McCallister (personally I don't think we've missed him all that much, but it's still big to lose your starting RB) "One of those seasons" is characterized by a yellow flag flying in on key 3rd down defensive stoppages. "One of those seasons" is characterized by needing the defense to hold the opposing team's offense just ONE...MORE....TIME.........and giving up a huge play into Saints territory which pretty much seals the game. "One of those seasons" is characterized by completing a 25 yard pass on 2nd and 26, then failing to pick up 3rd and 1, and thus punting. "One of those seasons" is characterized by a veteran kicker missing more than one short field goal to kill momentum.
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11-21-2005, 02:58 PM	#22
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	TheGambler said, "I don't know, man.......I watch him.....and he can squeeze the ball into places that probably only 10% of the QBs out there can do..." Like up his butt! *Let me add that this is not a derogatory comment toward you, Gambler, it's just something funny that had to be said.
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11-21-2005, 03:56 PM	#23
yasoon 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 594	I have seen folks in the online community say that Brooks played "great" yesterday. I am amazed by the lack of an eye alot of folks have. I give him a B-, it was not great. He continues to hold the ball too long, he continues to miss receivers, he continues to run backwards, he continues to hit checkdown receivers for 1 yard. He missed horn in the endzone. He sputtered once we crossed midfield. I'll give him a pass on the pick, he had to throw it. But....he could have gotten another play out of it with some better clock management. Again, our offense fails to break 20. The TD passes were very nice. Brooks made some good throws, but the consistency was not there, as always. Now, the following things were not AB's fault: John Carney.....please stop playing football. We all know that you lose some leg as you get older, but the old kickers are usually money inside of 45 yards. Bad things happen when he is on the field. The secondary looked very confused. Not sure what's going on there. The D line looked decent and made a few things happen. Was it not nice to see a team heave a few balls deep? Good God, when is the last time we did that? I don't know who to blame, but they softened us up with those deep balls. Our QB has a big arm, we got to the playoffs in 2000 by throwing 3-5 of those a game. (Blake threw a very nice deep ball and I think AB is capable of dropping one in there.) We never throw the ball behind the defense....it's perplexing. The running game was OK. More brainfart penalties and a timeout on the 2nd play of the game. Our team looks so stupid next to the pats, who wear their thinking caps every sunday. I thought we were the better team yesterday. A false start knocks us out of FG range (it would have been a 49 yarder and we punted). Carney misses a gimme. The offense sputters at key moments. I am so tired of watching my team have equal talen and come up short. The Pats D is depleted, their RB is out. We can't cover a TE and Smith just stands and watches while the WR goes for 70. And if you think AB was great yesterday, look at Brady's numbers. Gus Frerotte had the same numbers AB did a week ago against the same D. Our offense still lacks the ability to really thorw some points on the board. I've been saying it all year.....we can't win with 17 points, or 6 points or 3 points. The defense was not great, but 24 points is not a ton. The Offense never picks up the slack. I don't want to hear about great when we're talking about a 50% passer against a beat up secondary. And for all the line bashers, AB had time to throw, he just couldn't pull the trigger in less than 5 seconds. I've seen enough. You got your record big boy....now take that crap somewhere else.
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11-21-2005, 04:14 PM	#24
Lifer Registered Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 69	The record only means something in the context of the Saints - a perennial loser. Archie is loved and repsected for his character. The guy has guts and class. He endured what many could not have. AB broke his record for sure. And he got the mark in way fewer games. AB is a better QB. But so what. AB is the best of the worst. In the context of the NFL this record means nothing. Congrats! Winning games is what matters. And we will never win consistenly with AB at the helm. No doubt the Saints have the best chance of winning week in, week out this season with Brooks at QB. But after this dismal season is behind us he has got to go. And I think it will be interesting to see just how little interest there is in him from other teams. No way will he command the kind of contract he has with the Saints. His real value will be determined.
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11-21-2005, 06:26 PM	#26
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack He finally had more TDs than turnovers, against the 31st ranked Pass D. Awesome job. Take that record and roll out. Just think when we played the Bears you said they were among the worsts defensively. Did the Bears look like the worst while destroying Jake? That's a lie. Go find it. I said they were one of the worst offensively, and they are. I ahve to appreciate the way you never mind looking like a fool.

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11-21-2005, 05:47 PM	#25
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	The last two posts pretty much said it all. Great game yesterday? LMAO!!! Great game leads to punt, punt, punt, downs, TD on the first 5 possessions. Missing Joe Horn with an overthrow, another time not seeing him at all wide open. The incompletions were terrible in the beginning, and there were times AB had ALL DAY to throw, he didn't, spun backward into the rush, ran around and threw a 2 yard pass. IT was stupid as normal. He finally had more TDs than turnovers, against the 31st ranked Pass D. Awesome job. Take that record and roll out.

11-21-2005, 07:56 PM	#27
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack He finally had more TDs than turnovers, against the 31st ranked Pass D. Awesome job. Take that record and roll out. Just think when we played the Bears you said they were among the worsts defensively. Did the Bears look like the worst while destroying Jake? Dude you just love being abused...mostly by your own posts. Who really cares about Jake. I don't watch or listen to Jake play. I have the unfortunate luck of having to see Your bed buddy Brooks miss receivers all day. Seems that when Brooks plays like crap you try to compare him to Jake which no one else brings up but you. Why don't you compare him to Brady? His passes seemed to be on target most of the night. Here let me make this simple for you. Brooks Sucks. No go back to bed and stare at his poster on your ceiling.

11-21-2005, 09:59 PM	#28
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Amen, amen. END OF FREAKIN STORY!!!!!

11-22-2005, 10:32 AM	#29
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Originally Posted by yasoon I have seen folks in the online community say that Brooks played "great" yesterday. Musta been some other forum, I didn't see anybody say that here. He did have a good game though.......give him time to throw, and he could usually find Stallworth or Zach Hilton somewhere..
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11-22-2005, 10:59 AM	#30
TallySaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 1,367	Blurb from FoxSports.com... Fantasy QB Rankings #14 Aaron Brooks "Opponent adjustments for New England's poor pass defense knock this game down the list. By the way, if you added together all the yards Aaron Brooks runs backwards in one football season it would stretch from the earth to the moon. And back. Five times." 8)