Interesting Snippets

dberce1 · 12-07-2005, 09:05 PM

From SI.com, I'll post both, as they are just paragraphs:

Highly placed Jets sources say they'd prefer not to draft Reggie Bush or Matt Leinart because it would mean investing too much money in one player when they have many holes to fill. Those sources, too, are not crazy about Leinart because he doesn't possess a strong arm and will command about $24 million.
-- New York Post

Which veteran QB might be playing for the Jets next season? The Chargers might get rid of Philip Rivers, but the Jets are not high on him. Though Washington's Patrick Ramsey, New Orleans' Aaron Brooks or Tampa Bay's Chris Simms might be available, the Jets might be looking at the answer Sunday at Giants Stadium in Oakland's Kerry Collins.
-- New York Post

FrenzyFan · 12-08-2005, 07:41 AM

Hadn't seen these yet, thanks. It's a sobering fact that we've likely shot ourselves in the foot (again) by not trading Brooks in the last off-season. I notice that the article mentions that Brooks "might be available" not that the Jets were interested.

Prior to this season, I truly believe some NFL personnel staffs might have been unfamiliar enough with AB's rookie-like mistakes, bad decisions, poor mechanics, and chronic inaccuracy during game play to possibly trade us a 3rd or 4th for him. I no longer have that hope. This year has really shown off Brooks problems. I suspect we'll be lucky to get a pick in any round for him. The real scary thing might be that we cannot find anyone who wants him at all. Seems pretty obvious to me that he's not starter material, but could make a decent backup for fill-in work. With his price-tag, I just don't see any team paying that much for a backup.

CheramieIII · 12-08-2005, 07:46 PM

Hey Frenzy, I agree with you as most probably do at this point, should've traded the sucker last year. If we were to pair him in a trade along with Deuce we might be able to come up with a high first rounder and I say trade Deuce because we seem to run alot better without him and I think the injury bug is just going to continue. Let's not make the same mistake with Deuce that we made with AB and wait a year later to realize we should have made the trade.

spkb25 · 12-08-2005, 10:10 PM

if we can trade brooks that would be wonderful. if we can get bush lets do it. i don't think we can. but if he is there there is no reason we shouldn't

Tobias-Reiper · 12-08-2005, 10:12 PM

.. I don't know why I see Gino Torrettta when I see Matt Leinart.. maybe is the weak arm, lack of mobility, the superhuman team around him... I don't know ...

spkb25 · 12-08-2005, 10:21 PM

i think u r right on. i saw him underthrowing wideouts in the nd game. i have said that also. i agree with you

CheramieIII · 12-08-2005, 10:33 PM

We need to sell out the entire draft to get Bush and Leinhart. I think our D is coming around. We just need to keep everyone in place. Consistency wins, period!!!!

Tobias-Reiper · 12-08-2005, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

i think u r right on. i saw him underthrowing wideouts in the nd game. i have said that also. i agree with you

You see it too.. yeah... heck, even his "best" play (arguably), the QB sneak against ND, he was pushed into the endzone by Bush, because he got stuffed.. if Reggie doesn't push him in, they lose that game...

saintswhodi · 12-09-2005, 03:48 PM

I'm sorry TR, but I think you are so wrong here it's unreal. Have you seen Leinart play a lot? I have. All the way back to the split national championship season. This dude is amazing. I hate USE for LSU having to share a national title with them, but I am not gonna use that to discredit Leinart. This dude is the real deal. He will be a great QB in this league. He is better than Carson Palmer. And actually last year, he lost his number one and two wideouts and still led the team to an undefeated season, so he has not always been surrounded by "a superhuman team." I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-09-2005, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

I'm sorry TR, but I think you are so wrong here it's unreal. Have you seen Leinart play a lot? I have. All the way back to the split national championship season. This dude is amazing. I hate USE for LSU having to share a national title with them, but I am not gonna use that to discredit Leinart. This dude is the real deal. He will be a great QB in this league. He is better than Carson Palmer. And actually last year, he lost his number one and two wideouts and still led the team to an undefeated season, so he has not always been surrounded by "a superhuman team." I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Whodi, my man!!! All those Brooks arguments did affect your brains

Leinart no way is better than Palmer. No sir!!!

... when I see Leinart, I see a weak arm with lots of time to throw.. in Carson circa USC, you could see the arm, the poise, and the athleticism... I don't see any of that in Leinart.

Honestly, I would rather have Matt Jones playing QB, before Leinart....

..but you know what they say about opinions... mine's right and your's wrong

12-07-2005, 09:05 PM	#1
dberce1 Chuck Liddells Right Hand Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prairieville, Louisiana Posts: 1,227	Interesting Snippets From SI.com, I'll post both, as they are just paragraphs: Highly placed Jets sources say they'd prefer not to draft Reggie Bush or Matt Leinart because it would mean investing too much money in one player when they have many holes to fill. Those sources, too, are not crazy about Leinart because he doesn't possess a strong arm and will command about $24 million. -- New York Post Which veteran QB might be playing for the Jets next season? The Chargers might get rid of Philip Rivers, but the Jets are not high on him. Though Washington's Patrick Ramsey, New Orleans' Aaron Brooks or Tampa Bay's Chris Simms might be available, the Jets might be looking at the answer Sunday at Giants Stadium in Oakland's Kerry Collins. -- New York Post

12-08-2005, 07:41 AM	#2
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Hadn't seen these yet, thanks. It's a sobering fact that we've likely shot ourselves in the foot (again) by not trading Brooks in the last off-season. I notice that the article mentions that Brooks "might be available" not that the Jets were interested. Prior to this season, I truly believe some NFL personnel staffs might have been unfamiliar enough with AB's rookie-like mistakes, bad decisions, poor mechanics, and chronic inaccuracy during game play to possibly trade us a 3rd or 4th for him. I no longer have that hope. This year has really shown off Brooks problems. I suspect we'll be lucky to get a pick in any round for him. The real scary thing might be that we cannot find anyone who wants him at all. Seems pretty obvious to me that he's not starter material, but could make a decent backup for fill-in work. With his price-tag, I just don't see any team paying that much for a backup.
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12-08-2005, 10:46 PM	#8
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by spkb25 i think u r right on. i saw him underthrowing wideouts in the nd game. i have said that also. i agree with you You see it too.. yeah... heck, even his "best" play (arguably), the QB sneak against ND, he was pushed into the endzone by Bush, because he got stuffed.. if Reggie doesn't push him in, they lose that game...

12-09-2005, 04:42 PM	#10
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by saintswhodi I'm sorry TR, but I think you are so wrong here it's unreal. Have you seen Leinart play a lot? I have. All the way back to the split national championship season. This dude is amazing. I hate USE for LSU having to share a national title with them, but I am not gonna use that to discredit Leinart. This dude is the real deal. He will be a great QB in this league. He is better than Carson Palmer. And actually last year, he lost his number one and two wideouts and still led the team to an undefeated season, so he has not always been surrounded by "a superhuman team." I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Whodi, my man!!! All those Brooks arguments did affect your brains Leinart no way is better than Palmer. No sir!!! ... when I see Leinart, I see a weak arm with lots of time to throw.. in Carson circa USC, you could see the arm, the poise, and the athleticism... I don't see any of that in Leinart. Honestly, I would rather have Matt Jones playing QB, before Leinart.... ..but you know what they say about opinions... mine's right and your's wrong

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12-08-2005, 07:46 PM	#3
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Hey Frenzy, I agree with you as most probably do at this point, should've traded the sucker last year. If we were to pair him in a trade along with Deuce we might be able to come up with a high first rounder and I say trade Deuce because we seem to run alot better without him and I think the injury bug is just going to continue. Let's not make the same mistake with Deuce that we made with AB and wait a year later to realize we should have made the trade.

12-08-2005, 10:10 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	if we can trade brooks that would be wonderful. if we can get bush lets do it. i don't think we can. but if he is there there is no reason we shouldn't

12-08-2005, 10:12 PM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	.. I don't know why I see Gino Torrettta when I see Matt Leinart.. maybe is the weak arm, lack of mobility, the superhuman team around him... I don't know ...

12-08-2005, 10:21 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	i think u r right on. i saw him underthrowing wideouts in the nd game. i have said that also. i agree with you

12-08-2005, 10:33 PM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	We need to sell out the entire draft to get Bush and Leinhart. I think our D is coming around. We just need to keep everyone in place. Consistency wins, period!!!!

12-09-2005, 03:48 PM	#9
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I'm sorry TR, but I think you are so wrong here it's unreal. Have you seen Leinart play a lot? I have. All the way back to the split national championship season. This dude is amazing. I hate USE for LSU having to share a national title with them, but I am not gonna use that to discredit Leinart. This dude is the real deal. He will be a great QB in this league. He is better than Carson Palmer. And actually last year, he lost his number one and two wideouts and still led the team to an undefeated season, so he has not always been surrounded by "a superhuman team." I guess we'll just have to wait and see.