Potential Problems in the Upcoming Draft

mjf150 · 12-14-2005, 01:15 PM

Given the recent chaos surrounding the Saints organization, does anyone foresee a possible "hold out" situation regarding the signing of a high-profile draft pick, as was the case with Eli Manning less than two years ago?

saintswhodi · 12-14-2005, 02:49 PM

I don't, since I don't know of any other high draft picks with fathers who played in the NFL and brother's with the richest contract in league history to cushion the blow of turning a team down.

mjf150 · 12-14-2005, 03:38 PM

The reasoning behind my question is the link below, in which it is noted that the Saints may indeed have some trouble attracting players to the team, given the uncertainty that surrounds the organization and the city.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10089769/

BTW, good heads-up on the article about the Brooks' Benching

saintswhodi · 12-14-2005, 04:01 PM

Thanks bro. I thought the brooks article was interesting, even if it is from profootballtalk. lol

On the draft picks, that article is more about FAs than draft picks. FAs have an absolute choice in where they go, draft picks don't. They can hold out and be a nuisance, but they would have to do that for an entire year, or at least past the trade deadline, and I just don't see any of them willing are able to do that. Of course, if they did, I couldn't say I blame them. But I don't think any one would. Money is still green, and draft picks usually live in apartments early in their careers anyway. Also, Tags has made it clear he wants the Saints situation cleared up by Jan so everyone will know where the Saints will be, and this will mitigate some of that hesitation about players coming here. Not all, but some.

mjf150 · 12-14-2005, 04:26 PM

I agree that FA and Draft Picks differ, in general. However, you would have to agree that, as in the case of Eli or Elway, a "high profile" draft pick can sometimes get away with behaving like a free agent. It's not something I agree with, but, unfortunatly, it has been proven true in extreme situations. Sadly, I could see this possibly playing out in NO, given the uncertainty. Not definitely, but possibly.

saintswhodi · 12-14-2005, 04:31 PM

I see what you are saying. But would you or would you not agree Elway and Eli were the anomoly, and not the norm? Elway had a contract offer to play baseball, and he threatened to do so. Eli had his father and his brother in his corner. There is noone I see coming in with those advantages, and the closest I can see a draft pick to doing that would be Marcus Vick, who has his brother with a very rich contract of his own. I just don't see it happening. But, I can see where you are thinking on this one. I am just not agreeing that it will be as much a problem for draft picks as FAs. As far as FAs go, I don't think we will be bale to sign anyone really, and we better franchise LeCharles.

CheramieIII · 12-14-2005, 07:38 PM

As stubborn as Benson is if we ended up with the 1st pick overall and took Bush and he said he did not want to play for us, we would let him ride the pine for a whole year and get nothing for our first pick. This scenario scares me but I really don't think it will transpire. Who would sit out a year and lose 10 million. That's just stupid.

pakowitz · 12-14-2005, 11:53 PM

id like to see the saints draft a lineman.... lmao.....

iceshack149 · 12-15-2005, 02:01 AM

What I want to see in next years draft:

1.LB
2.DT
3.LB
4.QB
5.LT
6.DT
7.LB

pakowitz · 12-15-2005, 02:32 PM

im sorry but if we get 1 of the top 3 picks then id have to say we take one of the qbs....there will be tons of LBs in this draft... there will be plenty of value for them in the 2nd round...there are also lots of OTs and DTs as well...which we need also pretty badly but if we have a chance to get leinert or young we have to take it... they both might be the best qb propects to come out in 5 years besides eli...

12-14-2005, 01:15 PM	#1
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	Potential Problems in the Upcoming Draft Given the recent chaos surrounding the Saints organization, does anyone foresee a possible "hold out" situation regarding the signing of a high-profile draft pick, as was the case with Eli Manning less than two years ago?
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12-14-2005, 03:38 PM	#3
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	The reasoning behind my question is the link below, in which it is noted that the Saints may indeed have some trouble attracting players to the team, given the uncertainty that surrounds the organization and the city. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10089769/ BTW, good heads-up on the article about the Brooks' Benching
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12-14-2005, 04:26 PM	#5
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	I agree that FA and Draft Picks differ, in general. However, you would have to agree that, as in the case of Eli or Elway, a "high profile" draft pick can sometimes get away with behaving like a free agent. It's not something I agree with, but, unfortunatly, it has been proven true in extreme situations. Sadly, I could see this possibly playing out in NO, given the uncertainty. Not definitely, but possibly.
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12-14-2005, 02:49 PM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I don't, since I don't know of any other high draft picks with fathers who played in the NFL and brother's with the richest contract in league history to cushion the blow of turning a team down.

12-14-2005, 04:01 PM	#4
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Thanks bro. I thought the brooks article was interesting, even if it is from profootballtalk. lol On the draft picks, that article is more about FAs than draft picks. FAs have an absolute choice in where they go, draft picks don't. They can hold out and be a nuisance, but they would have to do that for an entire year, or at least past the trade deadline, and I just don't see any of them willing are able to do that. Of course, if they did, I couldn't say I blame them. But I don't think any one would. Money is still green, and draft picks usually live in apartments early in their careers anyway. Also, Tags has made it clear he wants the Saints situation cleared up by Jan so everyone will know where the Saints will be, and this will mitigate some of that hesitation about players coming here. Not all, but some.

12-14-2005, 04:31 PM	#6
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I see what you are saying. But would you or would you not agree Elway and Eli were the anomoly, and not the norm? Elway had a contract offer to play baseball, and he threatened to do so. Eli had his father and his brother in his corner. There is noone I see coming in with those advantages, and the closest I can see a draft pick to doing that would be Marcus Vick, who has his brother with a very rich contract of his own. I just don't see it happening. But, I can see where you are thinking on this one. I am just not agreeing that it will be as much a problem for draft picks as FAs. As far as FAs go, I don't think we will be bale to sign anyone really, and we better franchise LeCharles.

12-14-2005, 07:38 PM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	As stubborn as Benson is if we ended up with the 1st pick overall and took Bush and he said he did not want to play for us, we would let him ride the pine for a whole year and get nothing for our first pick. This scenario scares me but I really don't think it will transpire. Who would sit out a year and lose 10 million. That's just stupid.

12-14-2005, 11:53 PM	#8
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	id like to see the saints draft a lineman.... lmao.....

12-15-2005, 02:01 AM	#9
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	What I want to see in next years draft: 1.LB 2.DT 3.LB 4.QB 5.LT 6.DT 7.LB

12-15-2005, 02:32 PM	#10
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	im sorry but if we get 1 of the top 3 picks then id have to say we take one of the qbs....there will be tons of LBs in this draft... there will be plenty of value for them in the 2nd round...there are also lots of OTs and DTs as well...which we need also pretty badly but if we have a chance to get leinert or young we have to take it... they both might be the best qb propects to come out in 5 years besides eli...