Peter King on Brooks' trade value

saintswhodi · 12-13-2005, 12:34 PM

SOME WORDS FROM NEW ORLEANS. From Mickey Triche of New Orleans: "Greetings from the land of the lost. (Thanks to the mayor, guv and a Congress that can't recognize a great American city when it sees one.) There's my political rant. Reading your MMQB and TMQB gives some of us weekly joy. Give me any scenario in which the Saints get anything of value for Brooks and give us who you think should, could, (would want to) play QB for us next year. Also give us an idea of who might want to coach here, assuming you believe that Jim Haslett is done and not the answer here.''

Quarterbacks who make sense for the 2006 Saints, in order: Kerry Collins (good arm, itinerant guy), Joey Harrington (not defending him, but a change of scenery can't hurt), and, believe it or not, Steve McNair. I question whether the Titans are going to commit to him long-term. Brooks? He'll probably have to be cut. I can't see anyone giving much more than a fourth-rounder for him. Regarding the coach, good question. I have no idea whom Tom Benson would like. Neither does he, probably. My short list: Dan Reeves, Green Bay defensive coordinator Jim Bates, San Diego offensive coordinator Cam Cameron.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../mmqbte/1.html

FrenzyFan · 12-13-2005, 12:39 PM

And that was my fear. Last year (when we should have dumped him) or the year before (when it would have been even better), we might have gotten something for him. Many who had not watched him play week-in and week-out may have believed he could be turned around. He'll be a backup, at best, if he's even in the NFL after this year.

saintswhodi · 12-13-2005, 12:40 PM

I think we both expressed that same fear for a while now. We should have dumped this clown before last year. Now the more he plays, the less we will prob get for him. Same with Howard, who has done almost nothing this year, and we could have traded him last year. Aye Carumba.

gandhi1007 · 12-13-2005, 12:45 PM

Hell, I would take a coke & a snickers for his sorry A*S!!!!! Just get him out of Black & Gold!!!!!!!!!!!

FrenzyFan · 12-13-2005, 12:48 PM

Forgot about Howard (shows how much he's disappeared this year) and that makes me feel even worse. Probably means other teams have forgotten about him as well.

jrmllb · 12-13-2005, 03:15 PM

I see us trading him for a Draft pick, if they get rid of him...I could see Collins giving NO another shot, remember we had him and let him go...I think the type of player that we want and would want to play for NO is pretty simple: young, talented, and most of all hungry to have a chance to play, ie Philip Rivers, Cleo Lemon, David Garrard, Seneca Wallace, David Greene, or a draft pick like Leinart or Jay Cutler, how about getting Kingsbury back, what about a Louisiana native that wants to do some good for LA like Craig Nall talented guy but in a log jam in GB, they have not dealt him away like they did AB, wonder why? What about some young free agents: two that played in LA are Rohan Davey or Matt Mauck. Davey got some great learning experiences in NE, what about another draft pick that is mature and has some game like DJ Shockley? We also have one guy we need to evaluate that the coaching staff is scared of and thats A-Mac, I think has is cared the guy comes in and does some good and makes AB look bad and his trade value falls even farther

Coaches area crap shoot...I don't see Carrol back in the NFL just yet...he has some great backups he wants to coach like John Booty...I like Tommy Tuberville...I also like Mark Richt, Houston Nutt isn't bad either, hard for College coaches to make the transition though, I think an assistant or head coach from elsewhere in the NFL might be good, Brian Billick may be looking for a job or even Jack Del Rio if they don't make a decent run at the AFC Championship

APSaintsfan · 12-13-2005, 07:08 PM

Whodi I thought we might have gotten it better for Brooks with the simplified playbook but apparently that wasn't the case. Besides Bouman last year who else did we have that could have possibly come in before that 4 game mirage?? I knew even in 2000 when he came in to finish the season that we should have stuck with Blake. Even Jake in 2001 & 2002. I don't know he showed some good in 2001 & 2002 but after that he fell off. OK I will stop my ranting. This is my pick though, Michael Robinson from Penn State, then I can't remember his name, from Notre Dame next?

CheramieIII · 12-13-2005, 07:40 PM

I say trade AB, Carney, Howard and Deuce and we might be able to get a high 2nd rounder for all of them. I included Deuce in this because we don't need to make the same mistake with him that we have with AB and wait too long before he's worth nothing.

saintz08 · 12-13-2005, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Hell, I would take a coke & a snickers for his sorry A*S!!!!! Just get him out of Black & Gold!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that less then my domestic 12 pack and future considerations ??

AllSaints · 12-13-2005, 08:42 PM

12-13-2005, 12:34 PM	#1
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Peter King on Brooks' trade value SOME WORDS FROM NEW ORLEANS. From Mickey Triche of New Orleans: "Greetings from the land of the lost. (Thanks to the mayor, guv and a Congress that can't recognize a great American city when it sees one.) There's my political rant. Reading your MMQB and TMQB gives some of us weekly joy. Give me any scenario in which the Saints get anything of value for Brooks and give us who you think should, could, (would want to) play QB for us next year. Also give us an idea of who might want to coach here, assuming you believe that Jim Haslett is done and not the answer here.'' Quarterbacks who make sense for the 2006 Saints, in order: Kerry Collins (good arm, itinerant guy), Joey Harrington (not defending him, but a change of scenery can't hurt), and, believe it or not, Steve McNair. I question whether the Titans are going to commit to him long-term. Brooks? He'll probably have to be cut. I can't see anyone giving much more than a fourth-rounder for him. Regarding the coach, good question. I have no idea whom Tom Benson would like. Neither does he, probably. My short list: Dan Reeves, Green Bay defensive coordinator Jim Bates, San Diego offensive coordinator Cam Cameron. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../mmqbte/1.html

12-13-2005, 12:39 PM	#2
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	And that was my fear. Last year (when we should have dumped him) or the year before (when it would have been even better), we might have gotten something for him. Many who had not watched him play week-in and week-out may have believed he could be turned around. He'll be a backup, at best, if he's even in the NFL after this year.
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12-13-2005, 12:48 PM	#5
FrenzyFan 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 406	Forgot about Howard (shows how much he's disappeared this year) and that makes me feel even worse. Probably means other teams have forgotten about him as well.
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12-13-2005, 03:15 PM	#6
jrmllb 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alexandria, Louisiana Posts: 665	I see us trading him for a Draft pick, if they get rid of him...I could see Collins giving NO another shot, remember we had him and let him go...I think the type of player that we want and would want to play for NO is pretty simple: young, talented, and most of all hungry to have a chance to play, ie Philip Rivers, Cleo Lemon, David Garrard, Seneca Wallace, David Greene, or a draft pick like Leinart or Jay Cutler, how about getting Kingsbury back, what about a Louisiana native that wants to do some good for LA like Craig Nall talented guy but in a log jam in GB, they have not dealt him away like they did AB, wonder why? What about some young free agents: two that played in LA are Rohan Davey or Matt Mauck. Davey got some great learning experiences in NE, what about another draft pick that is mature and has some game like DJ Shockley? We also have one guy we need to evaluate that the coaching staff is scared of and thats A-Mac, I think has is cared the guy comes in and does some good and makes AB look bad and his trade value falls even farther Coaches area crap shoot...I don't see Carrol back in the NFL just yet...he has some great backups he wants to coach like John Booty...I like Tommy Tuberville...I also like Mark Richt, Houston Nutt isn't bad either, hard for College coaches to make the transition though, I think an assistant or head coach from elsewhere in the NFL might be good, Brian Billick may be looking for a job or even Jack Del Rio if they don't make a decent run at the AFC Championship
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12-13-2005, 08:20 PM	#9
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Hell, I would take a coke & a snickers for his sorry A*S!!!!! Just get him out of Black & Gold!!!!!!!!!!! Is that less then my domestic 12 pack and future considerations ??
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12-13-2005, 12:40 PM	#3
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I think we both expressed that same fear for a while now. We should have dumped this clown before last year. Now the more he plays, the less we will prob get for him. Same with Howard, who has done almost nothing this year, and we could have traded him last year. Aye Carumba.

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gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Hell, I would take a coke & a snickers for his sorry A*S!!!!! Just get him out of Black & Gold!!!!!!!!!!!

12-13-2005, 07:08 PM	#7
APSaintsfan 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 119	Whodi I thought we might have gotten it better for Brooks with the simplified playbook but apparently that wasn't the case. Besides Bouman last year who else did we have that could have possibly come in before that 4 game mirage?? I knew even in 2000 when he came in to finish the season that we should have stuck with Blake. Even Jake in 2001 & 2002. I don't know he showed some good in 2001 & 2002 but after that he fell off. OK I will stop my ranting. This is my pick though, Michael Robinson from Penn State, then I can't remember his name, from Notre Dame next?

12-13-2005, 07:40 PM	#8
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	I say trade AB, Carney, Howard and Deuce and we might be able to get a high 2nd rounder for all of them. I included Deuce in this because we don't need to make the same mistake with him that we have with AB and wait too long before he's worth nothing.

12-13-2005, 08:42 PM	#10
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