DT is what we need

Haslet-rocks · 04-15-2003, 04:28 PM

the important issue of a tight end and safety have been taken care of but to me it seems that the moral of a team will go down if you cant stop the run, or if you cant get pressure on the qb then your cb's and safetys will get picked apart. Im just wondering if you guys are also worried about the DT spot becuase that is the biggest hole to fill, and with hand there i dont think the job will get done. To me the saints have to be focusing on the defense of line. tell me what you guys think

BlackandBlue · 04-15-2003, 04:55 PM

I have questions as to whether or not one will be taken in the 1st round, but have no doubt that we will pick one in the 2nd. Keep in mind that this is one of the deepest drafts we\'ve ever seen at that position, so we could see a starter drafted in the 2nd round, easy.

WhoDat · 04-15-2003, 05:47 PM

I agree completely B&B. A DT WILL be drafted at some point. Frankly, I\'d like to see them make a move for Trufant. If Bailey and Henderson are around I don\'t know how you pass on one of those guys. To me, LB is still just as big a need as DT. But, I agree with B&B... I\'d be amazed if a DT isn\'t taken in the draft.

rodjmaw · 04-15-2003, 06:30 PM

I believe Kenny Smith is ready to start

nocloning · 04-15-2003, 06:49 PM

DT is the biggest need right now in my mind and I would be surprised if they don\'t draft one of the big guys in the first round. Even if they trade up it should be for a DT (and didn\'t I read somewhere that\'s Haslett\'s thinking too?). I\'d be happy with either Joseph or Robertson, Haslett apparently likes Dewayne Robertson a little better - he has been at both of their Pro Days I believe. And I found the half-quote:
\"The New Orleans Saints are yet another team that will be exploring moving up on Draft Day for a shot at Kentucky DT Dewyane Robertson, possibly the hottest name in draft circles right now. Haslett said he would like to come out of round one with a cornerback but Robertson was the one player he would trade up for.\"

However I think it is quite unlikely we will get Robertson as his stock has risen so high in recent weeks that most people don\'t see him last beyond the 7th pick. The teams in the top 6 will be asking a high price for their pick which the Saints probably won\'t (and shouldn\'t) pay.
I don\'t see Bailey still waiting to be picked at #17, but Henderson may still be available. Newman and Trufant will be gone, there\'s no other CB worthy of our picks in the first round. Maybe Henderson and an impact DT (at least 5 are available ...)? Picks #17 and #18 still look very pretty to me and I don\'t really feel the need to move up unless some team in the Top 6 wants to make a dumb-ass trade (for example #17 and Hand for #6 - okay, not gonna happen).

WhoDat · 04-15-2003, 06:55 PM

I think there\'s a possibility the Saints could move up the five or so spots they probably need to get Trufant by dealing a first and third... that\'s the only move up I think they should consider. I like the idea of a DT in round one... I just think with Henderson or Bailey around when they pick, you get greater value by picking one of them. I mean, the top OLB or top MLB are worth more, in my mind, than the fourth or fifth DT... especially when you can pick the sixth DT in the second round.

nocloning · 04-15-2003, 07:24 PM

Why not go LB and DT in the first round and CB in the second? You seem to be implying that the Saints HAVE TO draft a CB in the first.
By the way: I think it\'s very unlikely they\'ll trade up for Trufant.
So what if Trufant and Newman are gone? Would you pick the #3 CB over the #5 DT?

iceshack149 · 04-15-2003, 10:07 PM

Haslett has said that he plans to keep #17 & #18 for cap reasons. You pick too high in the draft and you spend more money. There will still be good talent in the middle of the first round so stick to #17 & #18.
I\'m with whodat on a free agent DT. At least Woolfolk or Weathersby will available and so should Henderson or Bailey.

WhoDat · 04-15-2003, 11:50 PM

The Saints don\'t HAVE to have a CB - but the value is better b/c the corner position isn\'t nearly as deep as the DT position. I know what Haslett said about trading up... but I think they would be willing to give up a 1st and 3rd to move up a few spots to get Trufant. Maybe I\'m nuts, but I think that they would do it. Haslett wants a corner who can come in now and play... not a project. If they don\'t move up, then I expect a LB and DT... they might grab a corner, but I bet it will be later. They\'ll go with what they\'ve got this year and look for a corner as the big position they need to fill next season in free agency... probably along with MLB when Ruff doesn\'t pan out...

Haslet-rocks · 04-16-2003, 12:00 AM

see to me the DT position is most import becuase i dont care if you have the best corner backs in the league playing on your team, if you dont have a decent DT with the other team running all over you you cant win games. i say we trade up and get the best DT possible no matter what it costs,

04-15-2003, 04:28 PM	#1
Haslet-rocks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 20	DT is what we need the important issue of a tight end and safety have been taken care of but to me it seems that the moral of a team will go down if you cant stop the run, or if you cant get pressure on the qb then your cb's and safetys will get picked apart. Im just wondering if you guys are also worried about the DT spot becuase that is the biggest hole to fill, and with hand there i dont think the job will get done. To me the saints have to be focusing on the defense of line. tell me what you guys think
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04-15-2003, 04:55 PM	#2
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	DT is what we need I have questions as to whether or not one will be taken in the 1st round, but have no doubt that we will pick one in the 2nd. Keep in mind that this is one of the deepest drafts we\'ve ever seen at that position, so we could see a starter drafted in the 2nd round, easy.

04-15-2003, 05:47 PM	#3
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	DT is what we need I agree completely B&B. A DT WILL be drafted at some point. Frankly, I\'d like to see them make a move for Trufant. If Bailey and Henderson are around I don\'t know how you pass on one of those guys. To me, LB is still just as big a need as DT. But, I agree with B&B... I\'d be amazed if a DT isn\'t taken in the draft.
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rodjmaw 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 138	DT is what we need I believe Kenny Smith is ready to start
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nocloning 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 302	DT is what we need DT is the biggest need right now in my mind and I would be surprised if they don\'t draft one of the big guys in the first round. Even if they trade up it should be for a DT (and didn\'t I read somewhere that\'s Haslett\'s thinking too?). I\'d be happy with either Joseph or Robertson, Haslett apparently likes Dewayne Robertson a little better - he has been at both of their Pro Days I believe. And I found the half-quote: \"The New Orleans Saints are yet another team that will be exploring moving up on Draft Day for a shot at Kentucky DT Dewyane Robertson, possibly the hottest name in draft circles right now. Haslett said he would like to come out of round one with a cornerback but Robertson was the one player he would trade up for.\" However I think it is quite unlikely we will get Robertson as his stock has risen so high in recent weeks that most people don\'t see him last beyond the 7th pick. The teams in the top 6 will be asking a high price for their pick which the Saints probably won\'t (and shouldn\'t) pay. I don\'t see Bailey still waiting to be picked at #17, but Henderson may still be available. Newman and Trufant will be gone, there\'s no other CB worthy of our picks in the first round. Maybe Henderson and an impact DT (at least 5 are available ...)? Picks #17 and #18 still look very pretty to me and I don\'t really feel the need to move up unless some team in the Top 6 wants to make a dumb-ass trade (for example #17 and Hand for #6 - okay, not gonna happen).
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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	DT is what we need I think there\'s a possibility the Saints could move up the five or so spots they probably need to get Trufant by dealing a first and third... that\'s the only move up I think they should consider. I like the idea of a DT in round one... I just think with Henderson or Bailey around when they pick, you get greater value by picking one of them. I mean, the top OLB or top MLB are worth more, in my mind, than the fourth or fifth DT... especially when you can pick the sixth DT in the second round.
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nocloning 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 302	DT is what we need Why not go LB and DT in the first round and CB in the second? You seem to be implying that the Saints HAVE TO draft a CB in the first. By the way: I think it\'s very unlikely they\'ll trade up for Trufant. So what if Trufant and Newman are gone? Would you pick the #3 CB over the #5 DT?
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04-15-2003, 10:07 PM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	DT is what we need Haslett has said that he plans to keep #17 & #18 for cap reasons. You pick too high in the draft and you spend more money. There will still be good talent in the middle of the first round so stick to #17 & #18. I\'m with whodat on a free agent DT. At least Woolfolk or Weathersby will available and so should Henderson or Bailey.

04-15-2003, 11:50 PM	#9
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	DT is what we need The Saints don\'t HAVE to have a CB - but the value is better b/c the corner position isn\'t nearly as deep as the DT position. I know what Haslett said about trading up... but I think they would be willing to give up a 1st and 3rd to move up a few spots to get Trufant. Maybe I\'m nuts, but I think that they would do it. Haslett wants a corner who can come in now and play... not a project. If they don\'t move up, then I expect a LB and DT... they might grab a corner, but I bet it will be later. They\'ll go with what they\'ve got this year and look for a corner as the big position they need to fill next season in free agency... probably along with MLB when Ruff doesn\'t pan out...
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

04-16-2003, 12:00 AM	#10
Haslet-rocks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 20	DT is what we need see to me the DT position is most import becuase i dont care if you have the best corner backs in the league playing on your team, if you dont have a decent DT with the other team running all over you you cant win games. i say we trade up and get the best DT possible no matter what it costs,
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