Interesting Draft Strategy Article

dberce1 · 01-02-2006, 06:18 PM

DRAFT ORDER WILL CREATE INTRIGUE

With the Texans at 2-14 and the Saints at 3-13, Houston and New Orleans sit 1-2 atop the draft board.

After that, a cluster of 4-12 teams were separated by the won-loss percentage of their 2005 opponents. The lower the won-loss percentage, the higher the spot.

So the Titans are at No. 3, the Jets are at No. 4, the Packers are at No. 5.

A coin flip will determine whether the 49ers or Raiders will pick sixth; the loser will select seventh.

The most obvious (and, in our view, most likely) results is that the Texans take USC tailback Reggie Bush at No. 1 and the Saints select USC quarterback Matt Leinart at No. 2.

But the presence of the Titans, whose offensive coordinator is former USC offensive coordinator Norm Chow, at No. 3 could make things interesting.

Apart from a straight trade with either the Texans or the Saints to get either Bush or Leinart, the Titans and the Texans could try to work together in an effort to allow each franchise to get one of them.

How so? Let's say that the Texans and Titans strike a secret deal to flip flop in round one, with the express understanding that the Titans would draft Leinart at No. 1. If the franchises can keep the thing under wraps until the moment that the Texans are on the clock, the Saints would then have fifteen minutes to figure out what to do.

And with Deuce McAllister on the roster, the Saints don't need Bush. But they'll need to have a plan in place with the Jets or the Packers to drop out of No. 2 if Leinart ends up being the first pick.

Such a plan entails plenty of risk for the Texans, who easily could be shut out from getting either guy. Also, the fact that the Texans and Titans are in the same division could make such an arrangement less likely.

With the Packers and Jets also in the top five, the Texans could simply hold an auction for the top pick, without worrying about whether there's a way to sneak Bush in from the three spot. The Texans would still be guaranteed a high pick -- plus whatever else they can finagle from the team that decides it's willing to give up plenty (a la Mike Ditka seven years ago for Ricky Williams) to get Bush. And if part of the price tag is a first-round pick in 2007, the Texans also would need to do some advance prognostication as to the projected value of that pick, based on the expected finish of the team that coughs up its No. 1 for next year.

We also think that the Raiders, who desperately need a quality quarterback, could try to spring to No. 2 on draft day, if Bush is indeed the No. 1 pick. Much of that depends on who the new coach of the Raiders will be, and on whether a starting quarterback can otherwise be obtained on the open market before the draft.

The only sure thing for now is that there will be plenty of rumors and speculation and innuendo over the next three months as all of the various permutations of the next destination of Bush and Leinart are laid out.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

BlackandBlue · 01-02-2006, 06:24 PM

Let's say that the Texans and Titans strike a secret deal to flip flop in round one, with the express understanding that the Titans would draft Leinart at No. 1. If the franchises can keep the thing under wraps until the moment that the Texans are on the clock, the Saints would then have fifteen minutes to figure out what to do.

And with Deuce McAllister on the roster, the Saints don't need Bush. But they'll need to have a plan in place with the Jets or the Packers to drop out of No. 2 if Leinart ends up being the first pick.

That would be dumb of the Texans.

Winwin · 01-02-2006, 06:28 PM

We also think that the Raiders, who desperately need a quality quarterback, could try to spring to No. 2 on draft day, if Bush is indeed the No. 1 pick. Much of that depends on who the new coach of the Raiders will be, and on whether a starting quarterback can otherwise be obtained on the open market before the draft.

as i said in my previous post, oakland would be the top trade partner they are easily with big-eye's and wallet. but now that we learned they have the 6th pick i want no part of that jinx spot.

BlackandBlue · 01-02-2006, 06:34 PM

as i said in my previous post, oakland would be the top trade partner they are easily with big-eye's and wallet.

So they've given up on Andrew Walter, then?

papz · 01-02-2006, 06:45 PM

They gave up on Tui... so... I don't see why they wouldn't on Walter. But I think the Jets is their most logical trading partner. If the Texans feel Carr can be that franchise qb with a better offensive line, I don't think it would be a bad trade down if they decide to wait for D'Brick.

Carr, Davis, and Johnson really isn't that bad. Now if he didn't get sacked 50 times a year... he might show the league what he's fully capable of.

Winwin · 01-02-2006, 06:48 PM

Carr, Davis, and Johnson really isn't that bad. Now if he didn't get sacked 50 times a year... he might show the league what he's fully capable of.

Winwin · 01-02-2006, 06:50 PM

it depends on why he is getting sacked so many times. saintsfans want to say because of oline, texanfans say he holds onto the ball too long.

BlackandBlue · 01-02-2006, 06:58 PM

Can you give up on a QB after one season? He's just a rookie...

D-buck47 · 01-02-2006, 10:08 PM

Andrew Walter will be a starter in the NFL. If Oakland wanted to move up, hopefully they include him. I think a lot will change when Vince Young comes out and gives some teams after the top 3 picks some options

hagan714 · 01-03-2006, 09:18 AM

Even if the texans trade and the qb option is taken by say the raiders. we still have good trade bait with bush. The titans and GB need a new rb. but i think the OT will top there wish list. But the Texans need all the line help they can get just ask Carr and Davis. Carr i have watched and he is a guy suffering from no WRs really and he is gun from being hammered year after year.

01-02-2006, 06:18 PM	#1
dberce1 Chuck Liddells Right Hand Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Prairieville, Louisiana Posts: 1,227	Interesting Draft Strategy Article DRAFT ORDER WILL CREATE INTRIGUE With the Texans at 2-14 and the Saints at 3-13, Houston and New Orleans sit 1-2 atop the draft board. After that, a cluster of 4-12 teams were separated by the won-loss percentage of their 2005 opponents. The lower the won-loss percentage, the higher the spot. So the Titans are at No. 3, the Jets are at No. 4, the Packers are at No. 5. A coin flip will determine whether the 49ers or Raiders will pick sixth; the loser will select seventh. The most obvious (and, in our view, most likely) results is that the Texans take USC tailback Reggie Bush at No. 1 and the Saints select USC quarterback Matt Leinart at No. 2. But the presence of the Titans, whose offensive coordinator is former USC offensive coordinator Norm Chow, at No. 3 could make things interesting. Apart from a straight trade with either the Texans or the Saints to get either Bush or Leinart, the Titans and the Texans could try to work together in an effort to allow each franchise to get one of them. How so? Let's say that the Texans and Titans strike a secret deal to flip flop in round one, with the express understanding that the Titans would draft Leinart at No. 1. If the franchises can keep the thing under wraps until the moment that the Texans are on the clock, the Saints would then have fifteen minutes to figure out what to do. And with Deuce McAllister on the roster, the Saints don't need Bush. But they'll need to have a plan in place with the Jets or the Packers to drop out of No. 2 if Leinart ends up being the first pick. Such a plan entails plenty of risk for the Texans, who easily could be shut out from getting either guy. Also, the fact that the Texans and Titans are in the same division could make such an arrangement less likely. With the Packers and Jets also in the top five, the Texans could simply hold an auction for the top pick, without worrying about whether there's a way to sneak Bush in from the three spot. The Texans would still be guaranteed a high pick -- plus whatever else they can finagle from the team that decides it's willing to give up plenty (a la Mike Ditka seven years ago for Ricky Williams) to get Bush. And if part of the price tag is a first-round pick in 2007, the Texans also would need to do some advance prognostication as to the projected value of that pick, based on the expected finish of the team that coughs up its No. 1 for next year. We also think that the Raiders, who desperately need a quality quarterback, could try to spring to No. 2 on draft day, if Bush is indeed the No. 1 pick. Much of that depends on who the new coach of the Raiders will be, and on whether a starting quarterback can otherwise be obtained on the open market before the draft. The only sure thing for now is that there will be plenty of rumors and speculation and innuendo over the next three months as all of the various permutations of the next destination of Bush and Leinart are laid out. http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

01-02-2006, 06:24 PM	#2
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	RE: Interesting Draft Strategy Article Let's say that the Texans and Titans strike a secret deal to flip flop in round one, with the express understanding that the Titans would draft Leinart at No. 1. If the franchises can keep the thing under wraps until the moment that the Texans are on the clock, the Saints would then have fifteen minutes to figure out what to do. And with Deuce McAllister on the roster, the Saints don't need Bush. But they'll need to have a plan in place with the Jets or the Packers to drop out of No. 2 if Leinart ends up being the first pick. That would be dumb of the Texans.

01-02-2006, 06:28 PM	#3
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	RE: Interesting Draft Strategy Article We also think that the Raiders, who desperately need a quality quarterback, could try to spring to No. 2 on draft day, if Bush is indeed the No. 1 pick. Much of that depends on who the new coach of the Raiders will be, and on whether a starting quarterback can otherwise be obtained on the open market before the draft. as i said in my previous post, oakland would be the top trade partner they are easily with big-eye's and wallet. but now that we learned they have the 6th pick i want no part of that jinx spot.
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01-02-2006, 06:34 PM	#4
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	RE: Interesting Draft Strategy Article as i said in my previous post, oakland would be the top trade partner they are easily with big-eye's and wallet. So they've given up on Andrew Walter, then?

01-02-2006, 06:45 PM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	RE: Interesting Draft Strategy Article They gave up on Tui... so... I don't see why they wouldn't on Walter. But I think the Jets is their most logical trading partner. If the Texans feel Carr can be that franchise qb with a better offensive line, I don't think it would be a bad trade down if they decide to wait for D'Brick. Carr, Davis, and Johnson really isn't that bad. Now if he didn't get sacked 50 times a year... he might show the league what he's fully capable of.

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01-02-2006, 06:48 PM	#6
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	RE: Interesting Draft Strategy Article Carr, Davis, and Johnson really isn't that bad. Now if he didn't get sacked 50 times a year... he might show the league what he's fully capable of.
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01-02-2006, 06:50 PM	#7
Winwin 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 332	RE: Interesting Draft Strategy Article it depends on why he is getting sacked so many times. saintsfans want to say because of oline, texanfans say he holds onto the ball too long.
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01-02-2006, 06:58 PM	#8
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	RE: Interesting Draft Strategy Article Can you give up on a QB after one season? He's just a rookie...

01-02-2006, 10:08 PM	#9
D-buck47 100th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 162	Andrew Walter will be a starter in the NFL. If Oakland wanted to move up, hopefully they include him. I think a lot will change when Vince Young comes out and gives some teams after the top 3 picks some options
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01-03-2006, 09:18 AM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Even if the texans trade and the qb option is taken by say the raiders. we still have good trade bait with bush. The titans and GB need a new rb. but i think the OT will top there wish list. But the Texans need all the line help they can get just ask Carr and Davis. Carr i have watched and he is a guy suffering from no WRs really and he is gun from being hammered year after year.