Times Picayune article

papz · 01-13-2006, 07:35 PM

My ass hurts after reading this thread... I wonder why.

LongTimeFan · 01-13-2006, 08:19 PM

I thought about it and I want Young in N.O next season, I think he would really help us getting the offense going

VinceLover · 01-13-2006, 09:07 PM

i feel that we should take vince young, didn't ya see that last play of the rose bowl when leinart let the clock run down by scrambling just think if that was the super bowl and the saints were in it and he did some stupid **** like that, then people would start changing their minds. i think leinart is going to be a bust anyway cause he had all that talent in USC and answer this question: DO THE SAINTS HAVE ENOUGH TALENT FOR HIM TO WIN!!!

LongTimeFan · 01-13-2006, 09:24 PM

"DO THE SAINTS HAVE ENOUGH TALENT FOR HIM TO WIN!!!"
I think the Saints has the offense to win with a good quailty qb behind center, maybe a little help here and there but over all we're ok, I think the Saints need to address the problem with the qb problem first and then go from there.

GoldenTomb · 01-13-2006, 09:49 PM

All i know is that i hear John Clayton and Mel Kiper say every week that any team would be absolutely lucky to have Reggie Bush on their team. They didn't say just teams without a stud running back.

papz · 01-13-2006, 09:54 PM

With the performance Simms gave last year, Griese will be a solid vet we need to strongly consider if we want to even think playoffs next year assuming he's going to be cut of course (he will with his 7 million dollar salary next year). Rattay would be a nice backup plan. Let Leinart or whomever comes in here learn for a year or so... they can familiarize themself with the system and adjust to the NFL's fast pace all while we can remain a competitive NFL franchise.

xan · 01-14-2006, 12:21 AM

I'm still trying to figure out how anyone on this thread missed the obvious trade down and take many more pieces to the puzzle aspect of the article.

You guys bore me, you've substitued the Jake vs. AB debate for the VY vs Lie debate. Get a damn life.

GoldenTomb · 01-14-2006, 12:39 AM

Xan there are many people here that support the trade down scenario, myself included. Most of them aren't posting on this thread.

However the most likely scenario is if our new coach is Sean Payton(Dallas QB coach), they will be chomping at the bit to get their hands on Leinart.

Bottom line is what is it that u want right now? Leinart is more ready to play right now than VY is and has a better grasp on the game, but VY is the better athlete, is more dynamic and has more upside. Leinart is the safer pick and almost certainly will be good in time. Young is much more of a gamble but has the potential to be a much better pro if he gets in the right system.

CheramieIII · 01-14-2006, 12:50 AM

Trade down 2 spots get Hawk and pick up 3 or 4 picks and maybe even a veteran QB take the best QB available witht the next pick at 34. Here we are GT. THE TRADEDOWNERS.

hagan714 · 01-14-2006, 08:48 AM

Did anyone one see how quick VY bailed from the pocket. He never was under center why? I think he needs the extra time mentally to see what the D is doing, sorry. How about all those great passes he thew? It is a shame those recievers seem to take a knee or come to a complete stop catching so many of them. Alot of the time they were wide open. Sure VY can run, but can we run an offense that is all shootgun? I thought that was already tried. To me i see a bigger and quicker version of AB, and niether can/or will be able to handle the mental part of game that well.
This is for Xan: "A man who does not Know his own history is DOOMED TO REPEAT IT".

01-13-2006, 09:49 PM	#25
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	All i know is that i hear John Clayton and Mel Kiper say every week that any team would be absolutely lucky to have Reggie Bush on their team. They didn't say just teams without a stud running back.
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591

01-14-2006, 12:39 AM	#28
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Xan there are many people here that support the trade down scenario, myself included. Most of them aren't posting on this thread. However the most likely scenario is if our new coach is Sean Payton(Dallas QB coach), they will be chomping at the bit to get their hands on Leinart. Bottom line is what is it that u want right now? Leinart is more ready to play right now than VY is and has a better grasp on the game, but VY is the better athlete, is more dynamic and has more upside. Leinart is the safer pick and almost certainly will be good in time. Young is much more of a gamble but has the potential to be a much better pro if he gets in the right system.
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591

01-14-2006, 08:48 AM	#30
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Did anyone one see how quick VY bailed from the pocket. He never was under center why? I think he needs the extra time mentally to see what the D is doing, sorry. How about all those great passes he thew? It is a shame those recievers seem to take a knee or come to a complete stop catching so many of them. Alot of the time they were wide open. Sure VY can run, but can we run an offense that is all shootgun? I thought that was already tried. To me i see a bigger and quicker version of AB, and niether can/or will be able to handle the mental part of game that well. This is for Xan: "A man who does not Know his own history is DOOMED TO REPEAT IT".
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

01-13-2006, 07:35 PM	#21
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	My ass hurts after reading this thread... I wonder why.

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01-13-2006, 08:19 PM	#22
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	I thought about it and I want Young in N.O next season, I think he would really help us getting the offense going

01-13-2006, 09:07 PM	#23
VinceLover Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Yo Daddy's Bedroom Posts: 9	i feel that we should take vince young, didn't ya see that last play of the rose bowl when leinart let the clock run down by scrambling just think if that was the super bowl and the saints were in it and he did some stupid **** like that, then people would start changing their minds. i think leinart is going to be a bust anyway cause he had all that talent in USC and answer this question: DO THE SAINTS HAVE ENOUGH TALENT FOR HIM TO WIN!!!

01-13-2006, 09:24 PM	#24
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	"DO THE SAINTS HAVE ENOUGH TALENT FOR HIM TO WIN!!!" I think the Saints has the offense to win with a good quailty qb behind center, maybe a little help here and there but over all we're ok, I think the Saints need to address the problem with the qb problem first and then go from there.

01-13-2006, 09:54 PM	#26
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	With the performance Simms gave last year, Griese will be a solid vet we need to strongly consider if we want to even think playoffs next year assuming he's going to be cut of course (he will with his 7 million dollar salary next year). Rattay would be a nice backup plan. Let Leinart or whomever comes in here learn for a year or so... they can familiarize themself with the system and adjust to the NFL's fast pace all while we can remain a competitive NFL franchise.

01-14-2006, 12:21 AM	#27
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	I'm still trying to figure out how anyone on this thread missed the obvious trade down and take many more pieces to the puzzle aspect of the article. You guys bore me, you've substitued the Jake vs. AB debate for the VY vs Lie debate. Get a damn life.

01-14-2006, 12:50 AM	#29
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Trade down 2 spots get Hawk and pick up 3 or 4 picks and maybe even a veteran QB take the best QB available witht the next pick at 34. Here we are GT. THE TRADEDOWNERS.