post your mock

jergensl · 01-14-2006, 10:18 PM

chermi,
that wouldn't be too bad, even though i think it is a huge mistake to pass on a franchise qb when one is needed so badly. volek could be a good temporary filler, but i don't see jacobs being any better than machperson.

i will post my mock draft shortly....

TheDeuce · 01-14-2006, 10:24 PM

The Saints will not trade any players on draft day. You heard it here first folks.

Reason: Our FO doesn't have that much football sense.

Also, I don't think we should, or will, get Volek. He'll be a huge cap hit, and I don't think he has any more room for improvement. But if all youre looking for is a temporary plug at QB, then I guess he'd do.

Cher, since you obviously feel that we shouldn't draft a QB, and you just want a fill-in QB, when are you planning on getting a QB for the future?

spkb25 · 01-14-2006, 10:27 PM

uhoh jerg listening to whodi. oh jerg you didn't see my post where whodi said that jacobs was an exceptional qb who would be a heiman contender if he didn't play for bowling green

jergensl · 01-14-2006, 10:38 PM

1. Houston Texans Reggie Bush, RB, USC, Jr. (duh)

2. New Orleans Saints Matt Leinart, QB, USC (duh jr)

3. Tennessee Titans Vince Young, QB, Texas, Jr. (duh III)

4. New York Jets A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio St. (vilma and hawk together...SCARY)

5. Green Bay Packers D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia (favre or rodgers...the need an OT)

6. Oakland Raiders Mario Williams, DE, North Carolina St. Jr. (sapp is getting old so DT possible, but williams is the top DL)

7. San Francisco 49ers LenDale White, RB, USC, Jr. (need someone to take the pressure off of alex smith...gore and hicks not cutting it...some think might be better pro than bush)

8. Buffalo Bills Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa (spikes needs help...chad is right there with hawk)

9. Detroit Lions Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College (maybe top pure pass rusher in draft)

10. Arizona Cardinals Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech (if not jimmy they will takd michael huff, DB, Texas...denny needs some secondary help...both of these guys could be corners or safties)

SAINTS 2nd Round
34. New Orleans Saints-Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State (i personally like abdul hodge out of iowa better, but hodge is a mlb and we already have mckinnon...carpenter is a HUGE olb {6'3 255} with great speed)

for the rest of the saints draft they should take best available and avoid the trap of reaching for need. the saints d managed to be ranked 14th in the nfl even though the offense kept putting them in bad positions with turnovers (worst turnover ratio in the nfl).

jergensl · 01-14-2006, 10:42 PM

25,
i have to disagree with whodi there. it hurts me to disagree with whodi, but the truth has to be said. jacobs was simply a big fish in a small pond that will get devoured quickly upon entering the sea of the nfl. in the mac he got away with being so quick and athletic that he put up god-like stats 1 year. see akili smith in the pac-10.

spkb25 · 01-14-2006, 10:46 PM

right but vince young will be good after one good season and one good game. makes sense

jergensl · 01-14-2006, 10:51 PM

i'm not a big vince young fan, but he has had 1 good season and 1 great season. i personally think he should have gone back for his senior year and put together another great season.

if vince goes to the titans, where he can learn from mcnair for a year or two, he has the potential to be a top tier qb in 3 or 4 years. whereas leinart can start right now and be slightly better than average and within 2 or 3 years be a top tier qb. i don't think young is ready to start next year and if he does he will be ruined.

CheramieIII · 01-14-2006, 11:46 PM

Cher, since you obviously feel that we shouldn't draft a QB, and you just want a fill-in QB, when are you planning on getting a QB for the future?

I really think either Volek, Jacobs or AMAC will step up and be the QB of the future, but with two 1st round picks next year (if my mock comes true), then we take either Quinn or Stanton, but that's another year away and anyone could rise to the top.

spkb25 · 01-15-2006, 12:11 AM

oh brady turns me on cherm

papz · 01-15-2006, 08:07 AM

I'll have to disagree jergensl...

Big Ben, Leftwich, and Pennington were all MAC products and they've seem to all have a solid career so far. I think Jacobs is next in line with that bunch.

Pac-10 in a pass happy offensive conference has faired much worse. Cade McNown, Akili Smith, Derek Anderson, Joey Harrington, Ryan Leaf, etc... are either out of the league or less than average qbs. Hopefully Leinart will fall into the mold of Carson Palmer rather than the others.

If you're good, you're good. That small conference big conference is a bit over rated to me. Omar Jacobs is good period. Next in line for the MAC WAC is going to be Tim Hiller. If we decide to trade down and pass on Leinart, I think Jacobs is the next best choice if we decide to draft a quarterback this year.

01-14-2006, 10:18 PM	#11
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	RE: post your mock chermi, that wouldn't be too bad, even though i think it is a huge mistake to pass on a franchise qb when one is needed so badly. volek could be a good temporary filler, but i don't see jacobs being any better than machperson. i will post my mock draft shortly....

01-14-2006, 10:24 PM	#12
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	RE: post your mock The Saints will not trade any players on draft day. You heard it here first folks. Reason: Our FO doesn't have that much football sense. Also, I don't think we should, or will, get Volek. He'll be a huge cap hit, and I don't think he has any more room for improvement. But if all youre looking for is a temporary plug at QB, then I guess he'd do. Cher, since you obviously feel that we shouldn't draft a QB, and you just want a fill-in QB, when are you planning on getting a QB for the future?
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01-14-2006, 10:27 PM	#13
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	RE: post your mock uhoh jerg listening to whodi. oh jerg you didn't see my post where whodi said that jacobs was an exceptional qb who would be a heiman contender if he didn't play for bowling green

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01-14-2006, 10:38 PM	#14
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	1. Houston Texans Reggie Bush, RB, USC, Jr. (duh) 2. New Orleans Saints Matt Leinart, QB, USC (duh jr) 3. Tennessee Titans Vince Young, QB, Texas, Jr. (duh III) 4. New York Jets A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio St. (vilma and hawk together...SCARY) 5. Green Bay Packers D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia (favre or rodgers...the need an OT) 6. Oakland Raiders Mario Williams, DE, North Carolina St. Jr. (sapp is getting old so DT possible, but williams is the top DL) 7. San Francisco 49ers LenDale White, RB, USC, Jr. (need someone to take the pressure off of alex smith...gore and hicks not cutting it...some think might be better pro than bush) 8. Buffalo Bills Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa (spikes needs help...chad is right there with hawk) 9. Detroit Lions Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College (maybe top pure pass rusher in draft) 10. Arizona Cardinals Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech (if not jimmy they will takd michael huff, DB, Texas...denny needs some secondary help...both of these guys could be corners or safties) SAINTS 2nd Round 34. New Orleans Saints-Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State (i personally like abdul hodge out of iowa better, but hodge is a mlb and we already have mckinnon...carpenter is a HUGE olb {6'3 255} with great speed) for the rest of the saints draft they should take best available and avoid the trap of reaching for need. the saints d managed to be ranked 14th in the nfl even though the offense kept putting them in bad positions with turnovers (worst turnover ratio in the nfl).

01-14-2006, 10:42 PM	#15
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	25, i have to disagree with whodi there. it hurts me to disagree with whodi, but the truth has to be said. jacobs was simply a big fish in a small pond that will get devoured quickly upon entering the sea of the nfl. in the mac he got away with being so quick and athletic that he put up god-like stats 1 year. see akili smith in the pac-10.

01-14-2006, 10:46 PM	#16
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	right but vince young will be good after one good season and one good game. makes sense

01-14-2006, 10:51 PM	#17
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	i'm not a big vince young fan, but he has had 1 good season and 1 great season. i personally think he should have gone back for his senior year and put together another great season. if vince goes to the titans, where he can learn from mcnair for a year or two, he has the potential to be a top tier qb in 3 or 4 years. whereas leinart can start right now and be slightly better than average and within 2 or 3 years be a top tier qb. i don't think young is ready to start next year and if he does he will be ruined.

01-14-2006, 11:46 PM	#18
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Cher, since you obviously feel that we shouldn't draft a QB, and you just want a fill-in QB, when are you planning on getting a QB for the future? I really think either Volek, Jacobs or AMAC will step up and be the QB of the future, but with two 1st round picks next year (if my mock comes true), then we take either Quinn or Stanton, but that's another year away and anyone could rise to the top.

01-15-2006, 12:11 AM	#19
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	oh brady turns me on cherm

01-15-2006, 08:07 AM	#20
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	I'll have to disagree jergensl... Big Ben, Leftwich, and Pennington were all MAC products and they've seem to all have a solid career so far. I think Jacobs is next in line with that bunch. Pac-10 in a pass happy offensive conference has faired much worse. Cade McNown, Akili Smith, Derek Anderson, Joey Harrington, Ryan Leaf, etc... are either out of the league or less than average qbs. Hopefully Leinart will fall into the mold of Carson Palmer rather than the others. If you're good, you're good. That small conference big conference is a bit over rated to me. Omar Jacobs is good period. Next in line for the MAC WAC is going to be Tim Hiller. If we decide to trade down and pass on Leinart, I think Jacobs is the next best choice if we decide to draft a quarterback this year.