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jergensl · 01-15-2006, 09:42 AM

so far big ben and leftwich have been the only ones to prove themselves and all of them are drop back passers. my point on jacobs is that he is such a superior athlete that he gets away with a lot in the MAC where there are not the athletes that there are in the SEC, ACC, or even Big Ten.

i typically do not like one year wonders from any confrence especially not the Pac-10 or Big 12.

when was the last time a qb was rated at 98 by mel kiper and turned out to be a bust? i am not being a smart ass i am just really curious if anyone has that information. the draft is such a crap shoot, no matter what you do there is a huge chance of a bust at any position.

papz · 01-15-2006, 10:15 AM

I hardly consider Jacobs as a one year wonder. He had an outstanding season last year and had a good one this year. If it were not for the injury he suffered, he would have played 3 more full games. And if you think about it, he would have easily topped 3000 yards and 30 touchdowns. He still finished the season with 2600 yards and 26 touchdowns. Those are solid numbers considering the fact he missed time.

Let's compare him to Brodie Croyle of Bama... Jacobs has better mobility, a stronger arm, and more than one good year. If Croyle can get away with being no where near athletically gifted as Jacobs in the SEC, I think Jacobs would more than be capable of holding his own. Can you agree with that?

As for Mel Kiper... I think he's poop. Last year I can remember him talking the world about Jacobs and Mathias, and this year he doesn't have them anywhere near what he projected them the year before. The same can be said about Ahmad Brooks and a couple of other guys.

jergensl · 01-15-2006, 10:16 AM

We trade Brooks to the BengalÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂšÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂžÃ‚Â¢s with a #2 in 2007 for John Kitna. Bouman is cut and Volek is our 2nd QB, Jacobs is our 3rd and AMAC goes to Europe for a year.

i missed this the first time i read your post. there is no way the bengals would give us a second round pick for john kitna for brooks. brooks will most likely warrant a 3rd rounder or maybe a 2nd to a team desperate for a qb. if i were the bengals i would want the saints 3rd rounder and brooks for kitna. volek will probably be seen as the premier FA qb and will warrant far more money than we need to spend...especially for a back up. i would like to see jacobs in europe to see what he can do against some other athletes. if he would put up similar numbers there i would allow him to be my backup.

i still say draft leinart with first pick, send AMAC to europe to see what he has, pick up a back up qb in FA to compete with bouman for the 2nd position behind leinart. someone cheap with a lot of experience who can tutor leinart along without expecting to start. too bad testeverde is retiring, because he would be perfect.

jergensl · 01-15-2006, 10:20 AM

i don't think croyle is worthy of a 2nd round pick. he was not able to get that bama offense going at all this year, i still don't understand why he is so highly rated.

as for jacobs, he has put up great numbers, but i would not want to spend a second round pick on a guy that will probably not be ready to start for 2 or 3 years, if that. his numbers come from his athletic ability that looked freakish in the MAC, but will look slightly better than ordinary in the NFL. there are not that many LBs or safeties in the MAC that have 4.4 speed. the NFL is a MUCH different story.

CheramieIII · 01-15-2006, 11:37 AM

i missed this the first time i read your post. there is no way the bengals would give us a second round pick for john kitna for brooks. brooks will most likely warrant a 3rd rounder or maybe a 2nd to a team desperate for a qb. if i were the bengals i would want the saints 3rd rounder and brooks for kitna. volek will probably be seen as the premier FA qb and will warrant far more money than we need to spend...especially for a back up. i would like to see jacobs in europe to see what he can do against some other athletes. if he would put up similar numbers there i would allow him to be my backup.

That's what I said we would send Brooks and a second rounder in 2007!

CheramieIII · 01-15-2006, 11:40 AM

i still say draft leinart with first pick, send AMAC to europe to see what he has, pick up a back up qb in FA to compete with bouman for the 2nd position behind leinart. someone cheap with a lot of experience who can tutor leinart along without expecting to start. too bad testeverde is retiring, because he would be perfect.

Did you not see Bouman in the last few games? Do you really think he should still have a shot at even being a backup?

jergensl · 01-15-2006, 11:55 AM

oh sorry chermy i mis read your post. my bad. i admit when i am wrong.

bouman was a turd the last few games, but since he is already under contract and we have a tight cap situation, we should keep him around as a #3.

CheramieIII · 01-15-2006, 11:58 AM

It's cool jergensl!

fhs623 · 01-15-2006, 12:26 PM

Texans- Reggie Bush
Jets- Matt Leinart, Saints trade #2 pick for Jets' #4, this year's 3rd roundewr, and a partridge in a pear tree
Titans- Vince Young
Saints- AJ Hawk
Packers- DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama
Raiders- Haloti Hgata (best name in the draft), DT, Oregon
49ers- D'Brickashaw (2nd best name in the draft) Ferguson, OT, Virginia
Bills- Mario Williams, DE, NC St.
Lions- Michael Huff, DB, Texas
Cards- DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
Rams- Tamba Hali (tied for the 2nd best name in the draft), DE. Penn St.
Browns- Mathias Kiwanuka (Honorable mention in the all name team), DE, Boston Coll.
Ravens-LenDale White
Eagles- Santonio Holmes, Wr, Ohio St.
Falcons-Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa

2nd rd
Saints- Kyle Williams, DT, LSU

3rd rd-

(from Jets)- DJ Shockley, QB, Georgia

(from Raiders)*- Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami

*AB to the Raiders for their 3rd rounder this year and a 2nd rouder next year.

ok, you are now free to bash my mock draft

pakowitz · 01-15-2006, 12:28 PM

if we move down to the 4th pick... we better be gettin more then a 3rd rounder....

01-15-2006, 12:26 PM	#29
fhs623 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 137	my mock Texans- Reggie Bush Jets- Matt Leinart, Saints trade #2 pick for Jets' #4, this year's 3rd roundewr, and a partridge in a pear tree Titans- Vince Young Saints- AJ Hawk Packers- DeMeco Ryans, LB, Alabama Raiders- Haloti Hgata (best name in the draft), DT, Oregon 49ers- D'Brickashaw (2nd best name in the draft) Ferguson, OT, Virginia Bills- Mario Williams, DE, NC St. Lions- Michael Huff, DB, Texas Cards- DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis Rams- Tamba Hali (tied for the 2nd best name in the draft), DE. Penn St. Browns- Mathias Kiwanuka (Honorable mention in the all name team), DE, Boston Coll. Ravens-LenDale White Eagles- Santonio Holmes, Wr, Ohio St. Falcons-Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa 2nd rd Saints- Kyle Williams, DT, LSU 3rd rd- (from Jets)- DJ Shockley, QB, Georgia (from Raiders)- Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami AB to the Raiders for their 3rd rounder this year and a 2nd rouder next year. ok, you are now free to bash my mock draft
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01-15-2006, 12:28 PM	#30
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	RE: my mock if we move down to the 4th pick... we better be gettin more then a 3rd rounder....

01-15-2006, 09:42 AM	#21
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	so far big ben and leftwich have been the only ones to prove themselves and all of them are drop back passers. my point on jacobs is that he is such a superior athlete that he gets away with a lot in the MAC where there are not the athletes that there are in the SEC, ACC, or even Big Ten. i typically do not like one year wonders from any confrence especially not the Pac-10 or Big 12. when was the last time a qb was rated at 98 by mel kiper and turned out to be a bust? i am not being a smart ass i am just really curious if anyone has that information. the draft is such a crap shoot, no matter what you do there is a huge chance of a bust at any position.

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01-15-2006, 10:15 AM	#22
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	I hardly consider Jacobs as a one year wonder. He had an outstanding season last year and had a good one this year. If it were not for the injury he suffered, he would have played 3 more full games. And if you think about it, he would have easily topped 3000 yards and 30 touchdowns. He still finished the season with 2600 yards and 26 touchdowns. Those are solid numbers considering the fact he missed time. Let's compare him to Brodie Croyle of Bama... Jacobs has better mobility, a stronger arm, and more than one good year. If Croyle can get away with being no where near athletically gifted as Jacobs in the SEC, I think Jacobs would more than be capable of holding his own. Can you agree with that? As for Mel Kiper... I think he's poop. Last year I can remember him talking the world about Jacobs and Mathias, and this year he doesn't have them anywhere near what he projected them the year before. The same can be said about Ahmad Brooks and a couple of other guys.

01-15-2006, 10:16 AM	#23
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	We trade Brooks to the BengalÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂšÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â€ÂžÃ‚Â¢s with a #2 in 2007 for John Kitna. Bouman is cut and Volek is our 2nd QB, Jacobs is our 3rd and AMAC goes to Europe for a year. i missed this the first time i read your post. there is no way the bengals would give us a second round pick for john kitna for brooks. brooks will most likely warrant a 3rd rounder or maybe a 2nd to a team desperate for a qb. if i were the bengals i would want the saints 3rd rounder and brooks for kitna. volek will probably be seen as the premier FA qb and will warrant far more money than we need to spend...especially for a back up. i would like to see jacobs in europe to see what he can do against some other athletes. if he would put up similar numbers there i would allow him to be my backup. i still say draft leinart with first pick, send AMAC to europe to see what he has, pick up a back up qb in FA to compete with bouman for the 2nd position behind leinart. someone cheap with a lot of experience who can tutor leinart along without expecting to start. too bad testeverde is retiring, because he would be perfect.

01-15-2006, 10:20 AM	#24
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	i don't think croyle is worthy of a 2nd round pick. he was not able to get that bama offense going at all this year, i still don't understand why he is so highly rated. as for jacobs, he has put up great numbers, but i would not want to spend a second round pick on a guy that will probably not be ready to start for 2 or 3 years, if that. his numbers come from his athletic ability that looked freakish in the MAC, but will look slightly better than ordinary in the NFL. there are not that many LBs or safeties in the MAC that have 4.4 speed. the NFL is a MUCH different story.

01-15-2006, 11:37 AM	#25
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	i missed this the first time i read your post. there is no way the bengals would give us a second round pick for john kitna for brooks. brooks will most likely warrant a 3rd rounder or maybe a 2nd to a team desperate for a qb. if i were the bengals i would want the saints 3rd rounder and brooks for kitna. volek will probably be seen as the premier FA qb and will warrant far more money than we need to spend...especially for a back up. i would like to see jacobs in europe to see what he can do against some other athletes. if he would put up similar numbers there i would allow him to be my backup. That's what I said we would send Brooks and a second rounder in 2007!

01-15-2006, 11:40 AM	#26
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	i still say draft leinart with first pick, send AMAC to europe to see what he has, pick up a back up qb in FA to compete with bouman for the 2nd position behind leinart. someone cheap with a lot of experience who can tutor leinart along without expecting to start. too bad testeverde is retiring, because he would be perfect. Did you not see Bouman in the last few games? Do you really think he should still have a shot at even being a backup?

01-15-2006, 11:55 AM	#27
jergensl 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Belleview, FL Posts: 526	oh sorry chermy i mis read your post. my bad. i admit when i am wrong. bouman was a turd the last few games, but since he is already under contract and we have a tight cap situation, we should keep him around as a #3.

01-15-2006, 11:58 AM	#28
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	It's cool jergensl!