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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by TheDeuce That argument makes no sense at all. There have only been 30 something QBs taken first (or however many years the draft has been in place). But, there have been hundreds of QBs that have been ...
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01-15-2006, 07:51 PM | #11 |
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Re: RE: I will settle the argument!
Originally Posted by TheDeuce
Excuse me, Mr Mathematics genius, but your comparison doesn't hold water... you want to compare the results of the first round of selections (32 players) against all the other rounds combined (230 some)* . Duh!!
*and that is present. There used to be much more than 7 rounds... |
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01-15-2006, 07:59 PM | #12 |
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RE: I will settle the argument!
1982 1st rounders- 2 After the first round- 6 1983 1st rounders- 6 After the first round- 8 1984 1st rounders- 0 After- 14 1985 1st rounders- 0 After- 11 1986 1st rounders- 2 After- 13 1987 1st rounders- 4 After- 15 1988 1st rounders- 0 After- 12 1989 1st rounders- 1 After- 15 1990 1st rounders- 2 After- 18 1991 1st Rounders- 2 After- 10 1992 1st rounders- 2 After- 18 1993 1st rounders- 2 After 6 1994 1st rounders- 2 After- 7 1995 1st rounders- 2 After- 12 1996 1st rounders- 0 After- 8 1997 1st rounders- 1 After- 10 1998 1st rounders- 2 After- 6 1999 1st rounders- 5 After- 8 2000 1st rounders- 1 After- 11 2001 1st rounders- 1 After- 10 2002 1st rounders- 3 After- 11 2003 1st rounders- 4 After- 9 2004 1st rounders- 4 After- 13 2005 1st rounders- 3 After- 11 So that's 51 QBs taken in the first round since 1982. And 262 QBs taken after the first round.
Now let's look at the QBs taken after the first round since 1982. 13 QBs drafted after the first round have won since Super Bowl 16. However, Montana and Theismann were drafted before 1982, that means that only 6 different QBs drafted after the first round since 1982 have won a Super Bowl. 6 out of 262 = 2.29% So the chance of Super Bowl winning QBs drafted in the first round since 1982 is almost 12%. After the first round is a little more than 2%. Also, what difference does it make if its the #2 pick? I'm sure there might never have been a #21 picked quarterback or any other random # to have won a Super Bowl. It's about being a first-rounder. P.s.- McNabb is a #2 pick. |
01-15-2006, 08:05 PM | #13 |
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RE: I will settle the argument!
McNabb never won a superbowl. You guys are trying to make the argument that Leinart is the won to pick and all I am saying is NO QB THAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED NUMBER 2 HAS EVER WON A SUPERBOWL. You can go back as far as you want on that other theory about the #1 Pick being more successful. I will stick to drafting a QB outside the first or second pick, alot more chances to win.
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01-15-2006, 08:07 PM | #14 |
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01-15-2006, 08:12 PM | #15 |
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RE: I will settle the argument!
I work for the government and I calculate your taxes, what's my name? THEDEUCE that's who! Only someone that works for the government would try to manipulate figures in the open like you are trying to do.
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01-15-2006, 08:13 PM | #16 |
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Cher, you appear to still be holding on the dream of HAWK as the first draft pick of the Saints.
I admire your tenacity, but DREAM on! BTW; I would like my case of DIXE cold, thank you! |
01-15-2006, 08:16 PM | #17 |
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RE: I will settle the argument!
First of all, how is that manipulating #s? If anything, what you quoted me on actually lowered the percentage of QBs that have gone in the first round that have won a Super Bowl. So you're actually backwards on that one.
And where did I ever say anything about #1 picks. PLEASE TELL ME. I never said anything about a #1 pick, I've always talked about first-rounders. Please tell me Cher. |
01-15-2006, 08:17 PM | #18 |
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I'll buy it for you if and when Benson becomes stupid enough to throw his money away on Leinart. Never happen! and I like mine cold, real cold. Hey I am going to be down there in March maybe we can get together and I'll buy two cases and we can get drunk together. I don't mind losing as long as I have someone to drink with.
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01-15-2006, 08:18 PM | #19 |
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deuce you work for the government? that is just sick to me
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01-15-2006, 08:20 PM | #20 |
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Ok then if you said first rounders like I thought you said the first time. QB's drafted outside round one have won more superbowls than QB's drafted in the first round and only 5 of those QB's won 13 superbowls. I would rather spend the money on defense and draft a second round or later QB or none at all. Free Agency baby.
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