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Dude.....I was injecting some humor.
However on the Turley thing consider the source. He was a great player and I loved his fire but an a$$ everywhere he went. To coaches and teamates. |
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Trust me, I wanted AB gone a year ago, but please tell me you embelished, otherwise you're full of **** |
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Elway was benched for 4 games halfway through his rookie season. Marino did well. However remember that he dropped in the draft that year. The 1982 Dolphins went 7-2 in the strike shortened 82 season. BTW Montana was drafted in the third round. Quote:
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I know that Leinart will be an upgrade. But an upgrade isn't what you look for in a #2 pick. In that pick you look for a player that brings Pro Bowl caliber talent that stabilizes the position for the next 10 years. Look at the top of 1999 draft as a perfect example. From http://www.hickoksports.com/history/nfldraft1999.shtml\ # Team Player Pos College
Look at the QB in the #2 slot. I've very scared because of the #1 and #3 picks. What is it about Leinart that makes him McNabb, Manning, or Palmer type QBs and not the Tim Couches or even Ryan Leaf's (yet another #2 pick) of the draft. Once again, this is not about Brooks. Brooks won't take a pay cut because his ego believes that he is an elite QB in this league. So he'll take the chance of getting cut and shopping his services than to be humble, accept the pay cut and play for a change to be the starter here. He's not in the equation. If we pick Leinart #2 does he have the talent to be an elite QB in this league? SFIAH |
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I know it sounds crazy-Kyle Turley talking about someone else's partying habits. Actually, Brooks caught the lighter side of Turley's comments. Turley had a morning wake up call in the mornings when he was with the Saints from 106.7 "the End". This particular conversation came a couple of days before Turley was traded to the Rams (which probably had a lot to do with Turley's negative comments about the organization). He was more rabid about dissing Haslett & his coaching staff, not to mention owner Tom Benson. I've tried to Google this conversation, but since Hurricane Katrina, "the End" 106.7 radio doesn't exist anymore. :? :? |
Hey FJ, you say you like the Jimmy Johnson model of stocking up on draft picks and drafting speed on defense. Let me ask you a question, who was Jimmy Johnson's first pick as coach of the cowboys? It was Troy Aikman with the first overall pick in the 1989 draft. So FJ, I agree with you, let's go by the Jimmy Johnson model, draft a qb with our first pick, then build up the defense after. Jimmy Johnson model all the way!!!
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And that qb's name is MATT LEINART!!!
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Funny thing though LLT is that I'm sure the reports on Troy Aikman are not like Leinarts. I keep hearing that the man lacks arm strength....sounds more like a glorified Danny Wuerfful if you ask me. I'm sure JJ would not have picked a guy like Lienart. One more thing...before JJ showed up and picked Aikman? Who was the Dallas QB? I don't even remember.
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I don't recall Troy Aikman being known for his arm strength. But like I said in another post, Leinart's arm strength is compared to Peyton Manning's. wow, that would suck.
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You know.....if you really want a QB.....so be it. If we really have to pick one...I feel more comfortable with Cutler.
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Hey FJ, Danny White was the cowboys qb before Aikman. He wasn't bad himself. He retired the year Aikman was drafted. Anyways, Like Whodi said, Aikman never had a huge arm, he was very accuarate and smart. Sounds like Leinart if you ask me. Also, Leinart's arm isn't weak, he may not have a Brett Favre arm but it isn't chad pennington either
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Never mind...I found a roster sheet.. Do you guys remember how awesome Kevin Sweeney and Steve Pueller were? I am sure they were 100 times better than Brooks.... CAN YOU BLAME JJ FOR PICKING AIKAMN FIRST?!? The deal there was that Dallas had ABSOLUTELY nobody at the helm. Now (here we go again) Brooks is not the greatest...but he can definitely hold his own a lot better than those 2 extremely popular quarterbacks.
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Those were the 2 guys backing up Aikman after White left. In '88 Danny White was the qb. He didn't say he was retiring until he found out Jimmy Johnson was the coach and was going to draft a young franchise qb.
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Still...point made.....when JJ showed up....he had...NOBODY at the helm. That is not really the case here.
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All I was pointing out is that the timing is off. Turley hasn't played a game in a Saints' uniform since 2002. They really didn't start dumbing down the playbook, until just a few years ago. Turley wasn't on the team at that time. |
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Want to know another guy who supposely didn't have a strong enough arm when he was drafted?
Tom Brady |
Here's another one that supposedly didn't have a strong arm:
Joe Montana |
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I understand announcing it after McCarthy leaves, to use him as the scapegoat, I get that.
But it was announced a year before McCarthy left. And as if that wasn't enough, it had to be further dumbed down the year he left. Ehh, not even sure what the point is anymore, other than he was too stupid to pick it up after several changes throughout the past few years. But, it didn't happen while Turley was here, so I don't know how he can comment on it. |
And all I am saying is, you don't KNOW it didn't happen when Turley was here. All you can say is you didn't hear about it. Right?
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It is of my opinion that it didn't happen. Tweaked, yes, dummied up, no. ;)
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Doesn't matter who the Saints have at QB if you have no line or D you won't win... they won't do diddly.
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the leinart haters have to come up with an excuse not to draft him. all their arguments fail.
trade down to draft hawk or brick-why when we can get a solid lb with our early 2nd rounder, and OT isn't as big as a need as a qb or lb. draft young-dumb, but fast...sounds great come on haters...give me some more arguments to smash. haha |
Our O-line and D can not be even compared to that of the top 6 teams in the league. You need a top notch line in order to win a SB not one that will 'get by' is 'ok' not saying our line is worse than that of Texas but it ain't much better either. We need a line to get our RB up to 2000 yards and protect our qb. Teams that are winning on a consistant level are teams with outstanding lines and good to great defenses. A qb comes into NO isn't going to change much. We need a freakin line and a D.
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Before last season our biggest asset was seen as our OLine (I'm remembering the SI NFL Preview article). I really think that bad coaching and lots of injuries led to a down year. That and a dumbed down playbook that prevented our guys from mixing up plays and keeping the defense on their heels. The opponents' D could seriously just key on a few things and they'd have the play guessed easily.
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i remember a guy that signed up at this site about this time last year, who had some involvement in the Saints behind the scenes. For all i know, he could have been working at the executive level, or, something as trivial as being the 10-year old brother of some guy that works as a janitor for the superdome, who happened to come across a pretty confidential piece of information. regardless, the validity of his claims were so heavily scrutinized by many here at the site, that he eventually left, not to return. where's the line on what can and cannot be questioned on a forum? |
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euph,
our d was ranked 14th in the league last year with an offense that turned the ball over more than any other team. i think our d is very solid. as for our o line, i think we should improve our depth, but it is good enough to protect leinart. if our new coaching staff is smart, they will use a lot of quick short passes to build his confidence and keep the game manageable. i think we can win even if our rb doesn't get 2000 yards. wow your arguments are crazy. |
O-line's biggest weakness=Gandy
Leinart=Left-handed QB What does this mean? Leinart will be able to see the DE's coming at him from that side. He won't be taking blind shots. He's good on his feet and could be able to get away from a pass rush on that side. With a full season on Jamaal Brown's belt, he should be good on his blindside. Improve the LT and RG positions, and the Leinart could very well be successful with a good enough receiving corps. |
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I think he's psychotic. There may be some truth to some of the things he says, but isn't there always some loose portion of the truth hidden in our lies?
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