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Originally Posted by gandhi1007
There have been some QB's picked in the top of their perspective draft classes that did well in their first years. Do the names Montana, Elway, or Marino ring any bells?
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Montana's 49ers went 2-14 and 6-10 the first two seasons he was there. He split time with Deburg and did not take over the team until the 1981 season, when they took off.
Elway was benched for 4 games halfway through his rookie season.
Marino did well. However remember that he dropped in the draft that year. The 1982 Dolphins went 7-2 in the strike shortened 82 season.
BTW Montana was drafted in the third round.
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If I'm not mistaken, Marino took the Dolphins to the Super Bowl in his first season.
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Second season. Big Ben mirrors in a lot of ways.
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Though most take a season or two before becoming stars, I think Leinart will upgrade the QB position for us as a rookie simply by playing smarter than what Brooks has. Not to mention, this guy knows how to lead his receivers & can actually learn an entire playbook.
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This isn't a Brooks discussion. The last #2 pick the Saints had was 35 years ago. They don't come along often. BTW I am aware of the Rogers #1 pick.
I know that Leinart will be an upgrade. But an upgrade isn't what you look for in a #2 pick. In that pick you look for a player that brings Pro Bowl caliber talent that stabilizes the position for the next 10 years.
Look at the top of 1999 draft as a perfect example. From
http://www.hickoksports.com/history/nfldraft1999.shtml\
# Team Player Pos College
- 1 Cleveland Tim Couch QB Kentucky
- 2 Philadelphia Donovan McNabb QB Syracuse
- 3 Cincinnati Akili Smith QB Oregon
- 4 Indianapolis Edgerrin James RB Miami
- 5 New Orleans Ricky Williams RB Texas
- 6 St. Louis Torry Holt WR North Carolina State
Look at the QB in the #2 slot. I've very scared because of the #1 and #3 picks.
What is it about Leinart that makes him McNabb, Manning, or Palmer type QBs and not the Tim Couches or even Ryan Leaf's (yet another #2 pick) of the draft.
Once again, this is not about Brooks. Brooks won't take a pay cut because his ego believes that he is an elite QB in this league. So he'll take the chance of getting cut and shopping his services than to be humble, accept the pay cut and play for a change to be the starter here. He's not in the equation.
If we pick Leinart #2 does he have the talent to be an elite QB in this league?
SFIAH