Drew Brees

saintswhodi · 02-20-2006, 10:38 AM

ESPN has reported San D. will not franchise or transition tag him. I'd go after him, and use our draft pick to trade down a couple of spots and get D'Brick or AJ Hawk. QB position would be solved wih a young, pro bowl, proven vet, AND we would get to address another key position with a stud, while gaining another pick. I would LOVE to have Leinart, but Brees would give us a better chance to win now. And like I said, the additional player and picks we would be able to gain in the draft would be priceless. What ya think?

dwiley21 · 02-20-2006, 11:31 AM

Yeah, Did u see that shoulder injury! There are no guarantees that his recovery will go smooth (see chad pennington). If the saints can sign him at a good price then yes take a flyer on him, but don't mortgage the future and give up a Franchise QB in Leinart to sign Brees. Besides just because SD isn't tagging him doesn't mean they don't want him. They will be involved in bidding for his services, they just didn't want to guarantee a ton of money to a guy coming off a SERIOUS INJURY!

TheDeuce · 02-20-2006, 11:51 AM

I'll still take Leinart. That injury was nasty. I also think Leinart has more potential than Brees

Euphoria · 02-20-2006, 12:33 PM

When you are a winning ball club you don't get rid of your QB... He'll get resigned by San Degio.

Oh and also Rivers is NOT ready to play so no way are they ready to part ways with Brees.

saintswhodi · 02-20-2006, 12:49 PM

I'll asnwer you guys' queries with this:

From Peter King:

[quote]Obviously there's some hesitation about signing Brees because of surgery to repair a partially torn labrum. But this is a top-six or -seven quarterback right now, and he's 27. The players and doctors familiar with this surgery think there's no question he'll make a full recovery.[/quote]

From ESPN:

The Chargers have all but ruled out the possibility of placing the franchise or transition tag on quarterback Drew Brees, leaving them only two options: signing him to a new contract or letting him hit the free-agent market.

For a month, the Chargers had been considering the transition designation for Brees following his shoulder surgery because it gave them the flexibility of keeping his rights but not offering him a guaranteed contract. But an interpretation from the NFL Management Council late this week scared them out of that concept.

Because Brees had the franchise tag in 2005 and his $8.078 million salary was guaranteed, the league interpreted two things. First, the tender offer for Brees' transition tag would have to be at 120 percent of his 2005 salary instead of the 2006 quarterback transition number of $8.327 million. That means Brees would have to be offered $9.7 million by the Chargers. Second, there can be a case made that because his principle terms of the 2005 franchise tag was guaranteed, Brees' 2006 transition tag could also be considered a guaranteed offer.

The Chargers could ask for a hearing to determine whether that was the case or not, but instead have ruled out giving him the franchise or transition tag.

In the meantime, negotiations between Brees and the Chargers have continued all week. General manager A.J. Smith said he wanted to keep all three of his quarterbacks -- Brees, Philip Rivers and A.J. Feeley. Earlier this week, the Chargers worked out a two-year, $2 million deal for Feeley. Rivers is entering the third year of a six-year contract.

If Brees isn't signed to a new contract by March 3, he will be a free agent

Injury? Covered. Chargers keeping him? Covered. Next.

CheramieIII · 02-20-2006, 06:55 PM

ESPN has reported San D. will not franchise or transition tag him. I'd go after him, and use our draft pick to trade down a couple of spots and get D'Brick or AJ Hawk. QB position would be solved wih a young, pro bowl, proven vet, AND we would get to address another key position with a stud, while gaining another pick. I would LOVE to have Leinart, but Brees would give us a better chance to win now. And like I said, the additional player and picks we would be able to gain in the draft would be priceless. What ya think?

I could not agree with you more Whodi. Brees, Hawk and some extra picks in the second and third round. Take the best DT on the board at #34, best OT and/or center with remaining second and third round pick, cut AB, sign Peterson and try to resign Bentley. We have to find a way to make it work.

BlackandBlue · 02-20-2006, 08:55 PM

[quote="saintswhodi"]I'll asnwer you guys' queries with this:

From Peter King:

Obviously there's some hesitation about signing Brees because of surgery to repair a partially torn labrum. But this is a top-six or -seven quarterback right now, and he's 27. The players and doctors familiar with this surgery think there's no question he'll make a full recovery.[/quote]

From ESPN:

The Chargers have all but ruled out the possibility of placing the franchise or transition tag on quarterback Drew Brees, leaving them only two options: signing him to a new contract or letting him hit the free-agent market.

For a month, the Chargers had been considering the transition designation for Brees following his shoulder surgery because it gave them the flexibility of keeping his rights but not offering him a guaranteed contract. But an interpretation from the NFL Management Council late this week scared them out of that concept.

Because Brees had the franchise tag in 2005 and his $8.078 million salary was guaranteed, the league interpreted two things. First, the tender offer for Brees' transition tag would have to be at 120 percent of his 2005 salary instead of the 2006 quarterback transition number of $8.327 million. That means Brees would have to be offered $9.7 million by the Chargers. Second, there can be a case made that because his principle terms of the 2005 franchise tag was guaranteed, Brees' 2006 transition tag could also be considered a guaranteed offer.

The Chargers could ask for a hearing to determine whether that was the case or not, but instead have ruled out giving him the franchise or transition tag.

In the meantime, negotiations between Brees and the Chargers have continued all week. General manager A.J. Smith said he wanted to keep all three of his quarterbacks -- Brees, Philip Rivers and A.J. Feeley. Earlier this week, the Chargers worked out a two-year, $2 million deal for Feeley. Rivers is entering the third year of a six-year contract.

If Brees isn't signed to a new contract by March 3, he will be a free agent

Injury? Covered. Chargers keeping him? Covered. Next.

linkage, please?

mjf150 · 02-21-2006, 08:53 AM

I think he needs to go to Dallas. We do not collect "Drew's" (Henson, Bledsoe) here. We collect "Billy Joe's" (Hobert, Tolliver).

Seriously, as good as he has played the last couple of years, I don't see SD letting him walk as easily as they have. Unless, they know something about the injury that we don't.

FatiusJeebs · 02-21-2006, 01:48 PM

This is awfullt tempting. I have liked Brees since he was at Purdue. That injury was one of the worst that I have seen. I don't know what to think. I think he is awesome but that shoulder lookd horrible.

Euphoria · 02-21-2006, 02:33 PM

I don't think we should give up what it will cost in picks or money, paying Brees. To costly we trade down and let the draft and FA play out.

02-20-2006, 10:38 AM	#1
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Drew Brees ESPN has reported San D. will not franchise or transition tag him. I'd go after him, and use our draft pick to trade down a couple of spots and get D'Brick or AJ Hawk. QB position would be solved wih a young, pro bowl, proven vet, AND we would get to address another key position with a stud, while gaining another pick. I would LOVE to have Leinart, but Brees would give us a better chance to win now. And like I said, the additional player and picks we would be able to gain in the draft would be priceless. What ya think?

02-20-2006, 11:31 AM	#2
dwiley21 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 216	RE: Drew Brees Yeah, Did u see that shoulder injury! There are no guarantees that his recovery will go smooth (see chad pennington). If the saints can sign him at a good price then yes take a flyer on him, but don't mortgage the future and give up a Franchise QB in Leinart to sign Brees. Besides just because SD isn't tagging him doesn't mean they don't want him. They will be involved in bidding for his services, they just didn't want to guarantee a ton of money to a guy coming off a SERIOUS INJURY!
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02-20-2006, 11:51 AM	#3
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	RE: Drew Brees I'll still take Leinart. That injury was nasty. I also think Leinart has more potential than Brees
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02-20-2006, 12:33 PM	#4
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	RE: Drew Brees When you are a winning ball club you don't get rid of your QB... He'll get resigned by San Degio. Oh and also Rivers is NOT ready to play so no way are they ready to part ways with Brees.

02-20-2006, 12:49 PM	#5
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I'll asnwer you guys' queries with this: From Peter King: [quote]Obviously there's some hesitation about signing Brees because of surgery to repair a partially torn labrum. But this is a top-six or -seven quarterback right now, and he's 27. The players and doctors familiar with this surgery think there's no question he'll make a full recovery.[/quote] From ESPN: The Chargers have all but ruled out the possibility of placing the franchise or transition tag on quarterback Drew Brees, leaving them only two options: signing him to a new contract or letting him hit the free-agent market. For a month, the Chargers had been considering the transition designation for Brees following his shoulder surgery because it gave them the flexibility of keeping his rights but not offering him a guaranteed contract. But an interpretation from the NFL Management Council late this week scared them out of that concept. Because Brees had the franchise tag in 2005 and his $8.078 million salary was guaranteed, the league interpreted two things. First, the tender offer for Brees' transition tag would have to be at 120 percent of his 2005 salary instead of the 2006 quarterback transition number of $8.327 million. That means Brees would have to be offered $9.7 million by the Chargers. Second, there can be a case made that because his principle terms of the 2005 franchise tag was guaranteed, Brees' 2006 transition tag could also be considered a guaranteed offer. The Chargers could ask for a hearing to determine whether that was the case or not, but instead have ruled out giving him the franchise or transition tag. In the meantime, negotiations between Brees and the Chargers have continued all week. General manager A.J. Smith said he wanted to keep all three of his quarterbacks -- Brees, Philip Rivers and A.J. Feeley. Earlier this week, the Chargers worked out a two-year, $2 million deal for Feeley. Rivers is entering the third year of a six-year contract. If Brees isn't signed to a new contract by March 3, he will be a free agent Injury? Covered. Chargers keeping him? Covered. Next.

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02-20-2006, 06:55 PM	#6
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	ESPN has reported San D. will not franchise or transition tag him. I'd go after him, and use our draft pick to trade down a couple of spots and get D'Brick or AJ Hawk. QB position would be solved wih a young, pro bowl, proven vet, AND we would get to address another key position with a stud, while gaining another pick. I would LOVE to have Leinart, but Brees would give us a better chance to win now. And like I said, the additional player and picks we would be able to gain in the draft would be priceless. What ya think? I could not agree with you more Whodi. Brees, Hawk and some extra picks in the second and third round. Take the best DT on the board at #34, best OT and/or center with remaining second and third round pick, cut AB, sign Peterson and try to resign Bentley. We have to find a way to make it work.

02-20-2006, 08:55 PM	#7
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	[quote="saintswhodi"]I'll asnwer you guys' queries with this: From Peter King: Obviously there's some hesitation about signing Brees because of surgery to repair a partially torn labrum. But this is a top-six or -seven quarterback right now, and he's 27. The players and doctors familiar with this surgery think there's no question he'll make a full recovery.[/quote] From ESPN: The Chargers have all but ruled out the possibility of placing the franchise or transition tag on quarterback Drew Brees, leaving them only two options: signing him to a new contract or letting him hit the free-agent market. For a month, the Chargers had been considering the transition designation for Brees following his shoulder surgery because it gave them the flexibility of keeping his rights but not offering him a guaranteed contract. But an interpretation from the NFL Management Council late this week scared them out of that concept. Because Brees had the franchise tag in 2005 and his $8.078 million salary was guaranteed, the league interpreted two things. First, the tender offer for Brees' transition tag would have to be at 120 percent of his 2005 salary instead of the 2006 quarterback transition number of $8.327 million. That means Brees would have to be offered $9.7 million by the Chargers. Second, there can be a case made that because his principle terms of the 2005 franchise tag was guaranteed, Brees' 2006 transition tag could also be considered a guaranteed offer. The Chargers could ask for a hearing to determine whether that was the case or not, but instead have ruled out giving him the franchise or transition tag. In the meantime, negotiations between Brees and the Chargers have continued all week. General manager A.J. Smith said he wanted to keep all three of his quarterbacks -- Brees, Philip Rivers and A.J. Feeley. Earlier this week, the Chargers worked out a two-year, $2 million deal for Feeley. Rivers is entering the third year of a six-year contract. If Brees isn't signed to a new contract by March 3, he will be a free agent Injury? Covered. Chargers keeping him? Covered. Next. linkage, please?

02-21-2006, 08:53 AM	#8
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 752	I think he needs to go to Dallas. We do not collect "Drew's" (Henson, Bledsoe) here. We collect "Billy Joe's" (Hobert, Tolliver). Seriously, as good as he has played the last couple of years, I don't see SD letting him walk as easily as they have. Unless, they know something about the injury that we don't.
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02-21-2006, 01:48 PM	#9
FatiusJeebs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 973	This is awfullt tempting. I have liked Brees since he was at Purdue. That injury was one of the worst that I have seen. I don't know what to think. I think he is awesome but that shoulder lookd horrible.
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02-21-2006, 02:33 PM	#10
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I don't think we should give up what it will cost in picks or money, paying Brees. To costly we trade down and let the draft and FA play out.