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spkb25 02-27-2006 02:31 PM

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anyone but young. the guy is going to be a huge bust.

FatiusJeebs 02-27-2006 02:56 PM

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I like Cutler's attitude. he seems to have this "I've got nothing to hide" attitude about him and that is great. His confidence is pouring out. The way I see it....if you can make Vandy look decent...then at least we know that he is great under pressure with a slightly less than adequate o-line and supporting cast. Imagine what he can do if the Saints give him a good o-line?

AllSaints 02-27-2006 03:59 PM

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can you say Leinart ???? yeahhhhh

jergensl 02-27-2006 06:54 PM

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leinart not participating shows his intelligence. anyone in his position would do the same thing. it is not like he is not going to throw in front of scouts and coaches. he will just be doing so at the USC player day.

Tobias-Reiper 02-27-2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jergensl
leinart not participating shows his intelligence. anyone in his position would do the same thing. it is not like he is not going to throw in front of scouts and coaches. he will just be doing so at the USC player day.

..I'd say it shows the intelligence of his agent more than anything, but anyway this is standard fare...
If you are a consensus 1-5 before the combine, a) you don't want to having real-time comparisons with other players and risk someone outshining you, so what better place to showcase your abilities than your school's pro day where you are guaranteed no one is going to out-shine you and b) you have more time to prepare yourself for your school's pro day after seeing who you are going against ...

TheDeuce 02-27-2006 08:18 PM

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Yeah, just because Leinart's not participating in the combine doesn't mean he's scared, it means he wants to make sure he doesn't lose a few million dollars if he has an off day... give it a rest... Leinart is the better QB hands down... you can't pass 59% your senior season and be the best QB in the nation. The only reason people are even talking about Cutler is because the media needs something else to talk about for the freakin 2 and a half months where there's no football action going on. Leinart has won the Heisman and 1 (or 2) national championships, Young has won a national championship and numerous quarterback awards, and there's a reason for it. I'm still not sold on Young, but you still have to give those two guys the credit of being the best in the college game the last few years. Where has Cutler been the last four years? Sure he had a pretty good season this year, but it still wasn't anything amazing. Just look at hte stats, they don't lie:

NAME CMP ATT YDS CMP% YDS/A TD INT SACKS RAT
Matt Leinart, USC 283 431 3815 65.7 8.9 28 8 17 157.74
Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt 273 462 3073 59.1 6.7 21 9 23 126.07

FanNJ 02-28-2006 06:57 AM

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Look at the teams played on the talent around them and the conference....Then make an evaluation. When it comes to numbers, makes all the difference in the world.

FatiusJeebs 02-28-2006 08:51 AM

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You can't be serious Deuce. You wanna compare Lienart and his all star squad to Cutler's hapless commodores? Judging by your stats I'd say that Cutler did an awesome job in a crappy ass school. I don't think Lienart would have had that kind of success in Vandy....at all.

saintswhodi 02-28-2006 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FatiusJeebs
You can't be serious Deuce. You wanna compare Lienart and his all star squad to Cutler's hapless commodores? Judging by your stats I'd say that Cutler did an awesome job in a crappy ass school. I don't think Lienart would have had that kind of success in Vandy....at all.

We'll never know will we? So as it stands, Deuce is right and Leinart is CLEARLY the better choice. We can "well, if so and so went to THIS or that school" all we like. Doesn't change what is fact. I'd prefer a QB who is used to winning, and demanding winning out of everyone around him, as opposed to one who is used to losing on a losing team at a losing school, but has some nice numbers.

FatiusJeebs 02-28-2006 09:23 AM

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Sure...thats like saying that Tom Brady would have had equal success in Houston. Gimmi a break. If anything I'd prefer the QB who is used to do doing everything he can to help his team win than the QB who doesn't have the foggiest idea what a rough day on the job is.


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