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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The Miami Herald reports that the Saints have offered Drew Brees the most amount of guaranteed money among potential suitors. Some strong language from the Miami Herald. "From what I know right now, it's set where he's going, and it's ...

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Old 03-10-2006, 07:30 PM   #21
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The Miami Herald reports that the Saints have offered Drew Brees the most amount of guaranteed money among potential suitors.

Some strong language from the Miami Herald. "From what I know right now, it's set where he's going, and it's not Miami," the paper quotes an unnamed source. Brees, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Joe Horn, Donte Stallworth, Deuce McAllister, and Jamaal Brown would make a great-looking Saints offense. Mar. 10 - 11:32 am et

I'd cream in my pants if our offense were to look like that next season. I'm not a big D'Brick fan because of what I saw from him all of last season, but he is the best left tackle in the draft so I could learn to live with it. On paper doesn't that look awesome? Definately something worth getting excited about.
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Old 03-10-2006, 08:13 PM   #22
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I can't believe we are possibly going to make a splash in free-agency. Brees I think will be a good pick-up if the reports are true about his arm being at 100% by training camp. I also believe it says something about Brees that he beat out the guy that GM A.J. Smith personally brought in to take his job.

We should just maybe trade down once though to grab LB A.J. Hawk, pick up an extra second, pick up maybe an Antonio Cromartie and a Bobby Carpenter and the Defense would be instantly better!
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Old 03-10-2006, 10:21 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by SuJaguar00
I can't believe we are possibly going to make a splash in free-agency. Brees I think will be a good pick-up if the reports are true about his arm being at 100% by training camp. I also believe it says something about Brees that he beat out the guy that GM A.J. Smith personally brought in to take his job.

We should just maybe trade down once though to grab LB A.J. Hawk, pick up an extra second, pick up maybe an Antonio Cromartie and a Bobby Carpenter and the Defense would be instantly better!
I was impressed with how he stepped it up over the past couple seasons to emerge from the quarterback busts club, I think he can do the same thing with this injury... and even if he emerged after they built up the O-Line, we're in a position to do the same. Still liking it... Kinda feels like Christmas eve! It would be pretty cool to run downstairs and find a Drew Brees under the tree tomorrow!
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:04 AM   #24
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OK, clearly I'm the only one who doesn't want Brees on our team at all. Too many question marks with this guy. San Diego had 2 good seasons with him and now are suddenly willing to let him go and start a guy who played sparingly during his first 2 seasons. Do the Chargers know something that we don't know? Has he peaked? Can you honestly say that if he didn't get injured the Chargers wouldn't have signed this guy by now? The guy has a weaker arm than Leinart and his size (6'0) scares me. He's a good qb when he's handing the ball off to LT early on and uses the good running game with play action in the passing game. But look at what he did in the 4th quarter when his team was behind, the lost soo many close games because he can't make throws without using play action. And when he did make throws it was always to Gates, he has trouble getting the ball out to WR's. The guy is going to set our franchise back if we sign him. It we sign him we can forget about signing any other free agents. All of our money will be tied up in Brees and our first round pick (we're still going to have to shell out money to a #4-#6 pick). We don't have LT or Gates for him to utilize and signing Brees would be just another horrible signing by this franchise! Has anyone ever watched a Chargers game and said "Hey, I wish he was a Saint?" The answer is NO!!! the guy is an average qb surrounded by great talent. We need a "franchise" qb and Brees is by no means a franchise qb, Matt Leinart is.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:20 AM   #25
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Livna....You got me convinced..
I was all happy today hearing that we could get Brees...but now....I'm gonna go with you..
DRAFT LEINART!!!!!!
there....I said it.
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Old 03-11-2006, 12:58 AM   #26
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Amen to that! Why would we want a QB who is coming off a shoulder injury like that. I don't trust it. Not to mention he had the best RB & TE in the league to take some of the pressure off of him. He's not gonna have that here. Also don't forget our starting RB is coming off of a bad injury . Could you imagine an injury riddled season w/ both of those guys out. Not to mention this guy didn't start playing well until the Chargers lit a fire under him by drafting Rivers. He would most likely get a big deal, relax, revert back to his prior self. I don't buy it.
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Old 03-11-2006, 01:16 AM   #27
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Thank you Chaching and 26. We pass on Leinart and it will be the biggest mistake this franchise has EVER made. That's saying alot considering all the mistakes we have made in our past. 26 makes a good point about Brees not peforming until the Chargers "lit a fire under him" by drafting Rivers with the #4 pick. Also, he didnt start succeeding until some guy named Antonio Gates was drafted! We sign Brees I'm telling you, 2-3 years down the road we will be kicking ourselves for passing on the next Tom Brady/ Joe Montana.
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Old 03-11-2006, 01:37 AM   #28
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The Chargers are essentially choosing Phillip Rivers (a guy who has played one game in his NFL career) over Drew Brees (a guy who had 2 successful seasons with them and worked well in their offense) and draft picks (that they would have recieved by trading Rivers). This is a HUGE red flag for me. Something just doesn't seem right about this situation...
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Old 03-11-2006, 08:55 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay
Has anyone ever watched a Chargers game and said "Hey, I wish he was a Saint?" The answer is NO!!! the guy is an average qb surrounded by great talent. We need a "franchise" qb and Brees is by no means a franchise qb, Matt Leinart is.
Umm... me? I've watched plenty of Chargers game the last couple of season and those are definately words I've said. He's such an average quarterback that he was selected to the ProBowl the other year.

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay
The guy has a weaker arm than Leinart and his size (6'0) scares me. He's a good qb when he's handing the ball off to LT early on and uses the good running game with play action in the passing game.
You know he has a weaker arm because....? I saw him launch a 45+ yard bomb on the Jets last season to McCardell in stride in the rain last year (at least I think it was the Jets). His 6'0 hasn't hurt his performance the last couple of years... he's been outstanding. Guys like Jeff Garcia has had lots of success being short... and I hardly consider 6'0 short. Wow he's an inch or two shorter than Jake Plummer, Delhomme, Joe Montana, Steve Young, etc... big deal, that's such a cop out.

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay
He's a good qb when he's handing the ball off to LT early on and uses the good running game with play action in the passing game.
What quarterback in this league isn't better with an effective running game? Isn't that what you're suppose to do in this league? Run the ball to set up the pass. Hey did you happen to catch the Steelers and Colts game at the end of the year? Do you remember how garbage Peyton looked when they had to abandon the run and throw only the second half of that game? Does that make him a garbage quarterback also?

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Also, he didnt start succeeding until some guy named Antonio Gates was drafted!
For your information, Antonio Gates was an undrafted rookie free agent.

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay
The Chargers are essentially choosing Phillip Rivers (a guy who has played one game in his NFL career) over Drew Brees (a guy who had 2 successful seasons with them and worked well in their offense) and draft picks (that they would have recieved by trading Rivers). This is a HUGE red flag for me. Something just doesn't seem right about this situation...
Let ask you something... what kind of trade value do you think Rivers has? Probably nothing to high right? I mean judging by the performances he's had the past two seasons, I'm sure teams are lining up with their first round pick to get the guy. There is also something called money and saving face. If you were the GM would selected Rivers with a top 5 pick to be the future of that franchise, don't you think there's a little pressure after two years of not making it deep into the playoffs and missing it completely, to finally play him? And, why would you want two quarterbacks on your team that's being paid 7 plus million dollars? So, I don't see anything strange about this situation especially since Brees is coming of an injury... makes perfect sense to me.

Do I still want Leinart? Without a doubt. Would Brees look nice for a year or two? Frickin' right. Give Brees a nice 1 or 2 year deal at Brooks salary (well an incentive based deal would probably be better but why would he go for that) and we're right back in it.
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Old 03-11-2006, 10:51 AM   #30
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Papz, I didn't realize Gates wasn't drafted, but it doesn't matter either way, his numbers went way up when they signed him. I never said the Chargers should keep both qbs, I said that it makes no sense to keep Rivers and let Brees go, I think that is a red flag. But then again, any average qb can float passes up to Gates and hand the ball off to LT, might as well make it a young guy who'll be able to do it for many years. I don't see Brees signing a 1-2 year deal. If we sign this guy we're making him our future qb and I think he has peaked. Leinart has more upside and I'd much rather see us use our free agent money towards Witherspoon, a qb like Kitna and OL. One other question, if we sign Brees who do you want us to draft if we're only signing Brees to a 1-2 year deal? Leinart and have the same situation they had in SD? Or a LB/OL and be without a qb 2 years down the road when we'll have a better chance at making a run in the playoffs? Any other year, Brees would seem very interesting, but why now? Why when we have the chance to draft one fo the best qb prospects in recent memory? The FO has made too many mistakes that have set our franchise back, passing on Leinart will be their biggest.
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