Saints trade LT Gandy to Falcons for safety Scott
 

Hello Brick?

What in the name of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph is going on here
 

That undiscosed draft pick better be a third. Do we plan on going into the season with no OL? Is Stinhcomb ready to go or is this a D'Brick pick all the way now?

No Payton at Leinarts Pro Day and this sure look Brickish. I'm glad we got rid of the cap weight of him. They got Milloy so can afford to give Scott. I hope it is a 3rd indeed.

Okay, on that Monday night dome rocking. Will Smith lines up across from Gandy...

THAT will be fun to watch

:pokechop:

is this a late april's fool's day joke?

Here's what's gonna happen. Has anyone noticed the ONLY player who is a top 5 pick we haven't been rumored for is Hawk? Hello. We are gonna trade down and take Hawk, then trade back up and take Justice. Watch. But if we simply take D'Brick, I never said this.

Cap room anyone

my bad duece, your right the trade is real....why the hell did the saints get another safety!?!!

Nice "cover your ass" move whodi. LOL Well I simply like the fact that one way or another....we are filling up needs. From the looks of this we are gonna definitely stock up on offensive players in the draft. Mostly linemen. And why not.....you get a bunch of good ones this year.....and let them gel and grow together. 2-3 years time....they will be so used to playing together....cohesiveness is a damn good thing....and I hope that that is what the Saints have in mind. But is this trade even real? Can we get a link?

Smith to Corner may become a reality.

Exactly what I was thinking. But Bryan Scott is not that good of a safety to make that move.

Ya I'll agree there but we did pick up old man Stoutmire and Bellamy is still on the roster and Gleason(but after watching him play last season and getting burrned badley I'd rather see him only on special teams). However I did think Mitchel when healthy could have played (gone now thought).

I'll be interesting to see if that's the plan, or if there is a safety in the draft (maybe a twin of one we have?) that is on the radar?

Here's the link fellas...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2399461
I like it!

Smith at corner and bullocks at free saftey that will work for me. Stoutmire and Scott provide depth! Welcome to the Saints mr Dabrickashaw.

Scott could surprise. I admit I am only going off the Saints/Falcons game I went to in San Antonio, when an INT went right through his hands, so I may be misjudging him. I'd be in favor of Smith going back to corner, and Scott playing SS. We need another corner, and Smith wanted to play there again before he left Tampa. As a matter of fact, before the gun waiving thing, he said he would not sign with anyone who didn't let him play corner. So we'll see.

First time we agree on something.

I have not seen much of Scott but he is young and has played in all but one game in three years and his stats are not bad.

brown left hmm changes the draft a bit.
Scott FS 6'01'' 219, Josh FS 6'01" 207 , Dwight FS 5'10'' 201, Omar FS 5'11'' 205
Jay SS 5'11'' 200, Steve SS 5'11" 212
I think we are going to have alot of safeties on the fiels in the dime.

It's not the first time. It's actually starting to become a trend. How dare you. :P

Also heard from another source Payton said on NFL networkwe are moving Jamaal Brown to LT.

That he did saintwhodi.

One more good note he seems to have a nack for intersepting Delhome. 2 of his 4 career are against him

...nothing so refreshing as seeing a man with conviction go out on a limb, then cover his behind with a disclaimer in case he's wrong :) .. kinds like reminds me of someone I... er... nevermind :)

Hey guys...just going off of some things I've heard in the Atl over the last couple of years.

Scott is the cousin of the 2 live stews, a radio show here in Atlanta. So, they have had him on alot over the last 2 years. Last year, he was an up and comer and they were having him on alot. They were talking future pro bowler and stuff. (I was just fuming that this guy came out of nowhere and was becoming a playmaker for my least favorite team.)

In '05, he essentially vanished in a pretty thin secondary (minus D Hall) He spent alot less time on the radio this past year :)

I don't know that this is as much a "starter" move as it is a depth move. He could be viewed as our third safety or some of the other speculation could be correct...D Smith to corner.

To me, the bigger part of this is unloading an overpriced turd from our o line. Next time you see Gandy holding, it will cost the Falcons yardage. The only problem is that he won't be on Vick's blindside.

I like the move. A safety with some potential who we shouldn't get overly excited about. Bye, bye Gandy. And maybe....hello Brick? This has been the smartest offseason in recent memory.

Hmmm i like the move i think Stincomb would have gave gandy a run for his money last year but he got injured...... Soo we have another S and hopefully a 3rd round draft pick! It a pretty good trade.......... And Mike&Dwight at CB yyeeeeeeeeeaaaaaahhh booooyy !!!

Scouting report on Scott:

Hmmmmm I don't know about this. Granted, the idea of solving our CB troubles this way by allowing Smith to go to CB opposite of MM is very appealing, but this guy sounds like he's awful in coverage. I like the fact that he's physically daunting back there and can lay the big hit, but I also don't like the fact that he seems to be prone to giving up the home run deep ball. Overall, I guess this could be a good chance for us. We still have Bellamy for depth and we also added Stoutmire. Not having to address CB in the draft if we really do move Smith to CB would allow us to focus on DT, LB, and OL. This could be very smart. Overall, this offseason has been one of the most "smoke and mirrors" types of offseasons I've seen in a long time. Signings that might have seemed like nothing now are starting to make sense....

Yas, I agree with the rest of your post, but not this. I think Gandy was a good player for us. Yes, he was old, but he was also smart, understood the schemes, and was a good lockerroom presence. He obviously wasn't a start at OT, but at least he was serviceable. I guess it's a good thing that we got rid of his cap number, but not much else is so positive about losing him.

O, and another thing to think about:

The Falcons this week had come very close to deals with Brad Hopkins, Torrin Tucker, and Todd Steussie. Now that they have Gandy, to replace Shaeffer, do they really need to get any of these guys? Maybe the Saints, especially with Payton and Gibbs coming from Dallas, will make a run at a guy they've been working with in Dallas the last few seasons.

I don't know, just something for ya, put it in your mouth, chew it, its delicious...

Interesting observation Duece on the dallas connection. If gandy was cheeper I'd keep him for the opionions noted above but for his cost, not as a backup.

Does noone any longer understand the value of sarcasm? *sigh* :roll:

sarcasm, covering your azz, same difference..................smitty :wink:

I highly doubt anyone on here feels I have any trouble speaking my mind and being convicted about it. I can't be held responsible if someone doesn't have the mental capacity to weed out sarcasm when they see it. :wink:

IMO- This is a very strange move. Trading a starting LT to a division rival for a backup secondary player? Maybe moving Brown to LT or hope that Stinchcomb is recovered after ACL injury? Very interesting move, no idea what to make of this. IMO Gandy was probably has another season or two left. Does that mean the Saints are now drafting Brick? We'll see...

well matt we did get a draft pick too. so it wasn't straight up. i would think it would be a third or fourth only because we don't have a third and we already have two 6 and two seven round picks. i like it. especially i the idea is to put smithy at corner. we have a hole on other side of mm. so it would be good. like someone said we still have jay. we have stinch who may be able to start and we could still draft brick if not trade dwon and get hawk. i like it. i wasn't against wayne but if we had to do it and could replace him why not. i am liking this offseason and i am so ready for this draft. wings, beers, and some talk with you clowns in the chat room. should be a nice day. my buddy is a kc fan cause he is from kansas and we were going to be watching at his crib but he is an officer in the navy and will be under way. poor guy.

We have what 6 safeties on the roster now? Smith, Bullocks, Omar, Bellamy, Scott, and Gleason. It appears Smith and Bullocks will start in the back and Gleason is our special teams ace. Scott was just traded for and Omar was just signed... this all signals to... bye bye Bellamy it's time to retire.

I'm for moving Brown to LT which is what they talked about last year when he was drafted in the first place. He got his seasoning in already and I feel confident he'll be able to be good there. I also think a healthy Stinch would make a good RT... who knows, this may all still work out and we might not have to draft Brick. I like that Hawk and Justice thing sw was talking about... that would be great. But... that only happens when you're dreaming. :P If either Jordan Black or Rex Tucker are still available, we should make a run at one of them... preferably Black.

So much cap room... *cough* Arrington *cough*

spkb25- I am too looking forward to the draft party. If all goes right, it will be too much beer, and too much chicken. I look forward to draft weekend every year. In years past, I've done okay until the middle of the first round. That is when I would pass out from excessive alcohol consumption. I usually wake up around the middle of the second round, then have to log into the internet to see what I missed. I am so looking forward to draft weekend! Take care...

Pick is in 2007. Payton says brown is the LOT. That makes mayberry RT according to the new lineup. I see a late 2 or 3 going to OT. That is if we are not blowing smoke here and pick the DBrick.

hagan i just saw that when i read it myself. yeah that is good because next year it will be nice to have the extra pick but would have loved to se another one this year.
i am with you matt

I agree, I'm perplexed. A non starter and a second day pick next year? I have not been opposed to cutting Gandy. I did think at some point that we draft a new LT and maybe move Gandy inside to guard and give him a new lease on his career.

Hopefully, this means we need more cap room to make a move on Arrington.

Now we're minus 3 starting offensive linemen with no significant replacements in free agency. I'm now highly concerned.

My take is, we were going to cut Gandy, he was going to be a cap hit, and we might as well get something for him. Scott to replace Mitchell isn't a bad deal for an aging, overpriced LT that was on his wayout anyway.

My next question is which safety does that mean is getting cut? Smith to CB is a good move, but I still think we get someone else in the draft or before the start of training camp (Jamar Fletcher still around?). Gleason is cheap and makes good sense on ST. Bullocks is a youngster on the verge of being a star. That only leave Stoutmire and Bellamy. Stoutmire is old, but Bellamy isn't a spring chicken either. Plus, Bellamy had a leg injury that could cost him a step...a step he really didn't have to begin with.

Do you think we cut Bellamy? He's been solid for us, but I think this puts him square in the center of the table.

BMG don't worry, I'm sure that this coaching staff has some sort of plan. So far they've done some good stuff.

But let's just consider this trade. The more I think about it, the more I think it's going to be good. We got a pretty good player in Scott. He's only 25, a former second-round pick. He had a down year, but the rest of his stats are pretty solid:

I am really thinking that they're considering moving Dwight Smith to corner now and putting Scott back there with Bullocks. That would pretty much solve our CB situation. Also, you have to consider that we were going to get rid of Gandy eventually, either this year or next year. You know that you have to be happy that we actually got something (a starting safety AND a draft pick) for Gandy instead of just letting him go a la Darren Howard. Also, Gandy was a huge cap hit (4 mil this year) so it's a good thing that we've cleared up some cap space.

Also, you have to remember that we have Stinchcomb, who until an untimely injury, was scheduled to take over the starting tackle job. Besides, we still have the opportunity to pick up OTs in free agency that could be upgrades (especially in terms of youth and athleticism) over Gandy. Guys like Mike Pearson, Torrin Tucker, and others are still available, not to mention we still have the possibility of getting Brick in the draft if we so choose.

i think you are right deuce. i mean there are some options. if we move smith to corner that helps a lot. the thing i don't get about all of this is that everyone has complained about our o line. now that we have let three guys go everyone is asking what in the hell are we doing. now we really didn't let three guys go because lecharles wasn't going to resign no matter what and he said that. he said he wanted to be in cleveland. the point being is we didn't like our o-line anyway. so here comes payton making chanmges. he is sending guys packing. obviously he wants a change too. we should be glad about that i would think. we have to fill the holes but i am pretty sure he knows that

I was ready for something new at LT, but for some reason I think we got hosed on the deal. If it's a third next year that's decent, but anything less we got beat. Scott hasn't shown me anything in 3 years at Atlanta & getting him looks to be a depth move on our part. So I'm hoping the draft pick is what prompted the trade. I know it sounds pessimistic, but look at what our division foes are doing. I hope there's something more to our game plan, but it currently looks like we're getting the s**t end of the stick.