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Boogro · 04-19-2006, 09:59 AM

Funny, how just the other day Mike D. was talking on 870 AM and talking about the possibility of draft Williams and how good of an addition that would be to our defense. Also, they talked about how Grant was not very good at run blocking. Maybe whodi should write them and explain why they are wrong since he is such an expert. I like Charles Grant as well as many of you. One thing about him, he has a good motor where he helps his tackle #'s. He is not a top 10 DE and he isn't the best DE on the team.

saintswhodi · 04-19-2006, 10:02 AM

Grant's not very good at run blocking huh? And you even made it bold. Thanks. That's not even worth my time discussing. If you don't see what's wrong with that.......................

Second, go check Grant's tackle numbers, and tell me he isn't very good against the run. Do YOUR eyes tell you he isn't very good, or are you a talking head for Mike D.? I am sure though Payton and Co will work on Grant's run blocking, prob with Stinch and Jamaal's as well.

Boogro · 04-19-2006, 10:22 AM

I guess your BS has me all screwed up. Exuse me, Grant is not good against the run. I was just making a point that I am not the only one who believes he is not a top 10 DE. That's it! He has a good motor and makes tackles down field after the back has done past him. I like that about him.

If you are so intelligent on football skills, name your top 10 with Grant in it if you dare.

saintswhodi · 04-19-2006, 10:27 AM

I was just making a point that I am not the only one who believes he is not a top 10 DE.

And i'm not the only one who thinks he is, so what? If players are only judged on one year, then NOONE would be a top 10 anything for more than one year at a time. Believe whatever you want, why in the world would you think I care that you don't think Grant is top 10? You barely know if he is tackling or blocking.

Boogro · 04-19-2006, 10:31 AM

Name your top 10, thats all I ask. And if you think Grant is worth top 10 money, then you are crazy.

JimBone · 04-19-2006, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

I was just making a point that I am not the only one who believes he is not a top 10 DE.

And i'm not the only one who thinks he is, so what? If players are only judged on one year, then NOONE would be a top 10 anything for more than one year at a time. Believe whatever you want, why in the world would you think I care that you don't think Grant is top 10? You barely know if he is tackling or blocking.

IF players are only judged on one year? How many times has Kearse, Jason Taylor, Michael Strahan, Simeon Rice...hell, even Darren Howard...how many times have they followed a solid season with a magical disappearing act? It hasnt happened. Because all of the upper echelon players have one thing in common...CONSISTENCY. Year in and year out, you know what you are going to get from them...Charles Grant...not so much.

gandhi1007 · 04-19-2006, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by JimBone

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

I was just making a point that I am not the only one who believes he is not a top 10 DE.

And i'm not the only one who thinks he is, so what? If players are only judged on one year, then NOONE would be a top 10 anything for more than one year at a time. Believe whatever you want, why in the world would you think I care that you don't think Grant is top 10? You barely know if he is tackling or blocking.

IF players are only judged on one year? How many times has Kearse, Jason Taylor, Michael Strahan, Simeon Rice...hell, even Darren Howard...how many times have they followed a solid season with a magical disappearing act? It hasnt happened. Because all of the upper echelon players have one thing in common...CONSISTENCY. Year in and year out, you know what you are going to get from them...Charles Grant...not so much.

Uhmm... Using Kearse, Taylor, & Howard do not help your argument JB. They have all three had their share of down years as well.

saintswhodi · 04-19-2006, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Originally Posted by JimBone

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

I was just making a point that I am not the only one who believes he is not a top 10 DE.

And i'm not the only one who thinks he is, so what? If players are only judged on one year, then NOONE would be a top 10 anything for more than one year at a time. Believe whatever you want, why in the world would you think I care that you don't think Grant is top 10? You barely know if he is tackling or blocking.

IF players are only judged on one year? How many times has Kearse, Jason Taylor, Michael Strahan, Simeon Rice...hell, even Darren Howard...how many times have they followed a solid season with a magical disappearing act? It hasnt happened. Because all of the upper echelon players have one thing in common...CONSISTENCY. Year in and year out, you know what you are going to get from them...Charles Grant...not so much.

Uhmm... Using Kearse, Taylor, & Howard do not help your argument JB. They have all three had their share of down years as well.

Sssshhhh, he doesn't realize that. Mr. NFL.com forgot to check on the stats before he put his foot in his mouth again.

FanNJ · 04-19-2006, 10:54 AM

This is getting rediculis. Grant has been a solid polayer on D and our most consistant lineman Period. The fact of the matter is he is always around the ball. Period. The team as a whole had a down year, and I'm not willing to cast him aside yet. Realistically he is in the last year of his contract, so if there is an indication that there will be no negotion, then and only then would I look to unload him and not follow the path of Howard.

saintswhodi · 04-19-2006, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Boogro

Name your top 10, thats all I ask. And if you think Grant is worth top 10 money, then you are crazy.

For what purpose? I don't think I can make it any clearer, but what you think couldn't possibly be any lower on my list things I should be concerned about. It doesn't even make the list. You don't think he is top 10, I do. Mike D doesn't, Scouts Inc does. SO WHAT? Is there anything else you could be crying about at this moment?

04-19-2006, 10:41 AM	#36
JimBone 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thibodaux, La Posts: 614	Originally Posted by saintswhodi I was just making a point that I am not the only one who believes he is not a top 10 DE. And i'm not the only one who thinks he is, so what? If players are only judged on one year, then NOONE would be a top 10 anything for more than one year at a time. Believe whatever you want, why in the world would you think I care that you don't think Grant is top 10? You barely know if he is tackling or blocking. IF players are only judged on one year? How many times has Kearse, Jason Taylor, Michael Strahan, Simeon Rice...hell, even Darren Howard...how many times have they followed a solid season with a magical disappearing act? It hasnt happened. Because all of the upper echelon players have one thing in common...CONSISTENCY. Year in and year out, you know what you are going to get from them...Charles Grant...not so much.

04-19-2006, 10:45 AM	#37
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by JimBone Originally Posted by saintswhodi I was just making a point that I am not the only one who believes he is not a top 10 DE. And i'm not the only one who thinks he is, so what? If players are only judged on one year, then NOONE would be a top 10 anything for more than one year at a time. Believe whatever you want, why in the world would you think I care that you don't think Grant is top 10? You barely know if he is tackling or blocking. IF players are only judged on one year? How many times has Kearse, Jason Taylor, Michael Strahan, Simeon Rice...hell, even Darren Howard...how many times have they followed a solid season with a magical disappearing act? It hasnt happened. Because all of the upper echelon players have one thing in common...CONSISTENCY. Year in and year out, you know what you are going to get from them...Charles Grant...not so much. Uhmm... Using Kearse, Taylor, & Howard do not help your argument JB. They have all three had their share of down years as well.
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04-19-2006, 10:53 AM	#38
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Originally Posted by JimBone Originally Posted by saintswhodi I was just making a point that I am not the only one who believes he is not a top 10 DE. And i'm not the only one who thinks he is, so what? If players are only judged on one year, then NOONE would be a top 10 anything for more than one year at a time. Believe whatever you want, why in the world would you think I care that you don't think Grant is top 10? You barely know if he is tackling or blocking. IF players are only judged on one year? How many times has Kearse, Jason Taylor, Michael Strahan, Simeon Rice...hell, even Darren Howard...how many times have they followed a solid season with a magical disappearing act? It hasnt happened. Because all of the upper echelon players have one thing in common...CONSISTENCY. Year in and year out, you know what you are going to get from them...Charles Grant...not so much. Uhmm... Using Kearse, Taylor, & Howard do not help your argument JB. They have all three had their share of down years as well. Sssshhhh, he doesn't realize that. Mr. NFL.com forgot to check on the stats before he put his foot in his mouth again.

04-19-2006, 10:54 AM	#39
FanNJ 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 324	This is getting rediculis. Grant has been a solid polayer on D and our most consistant lineman Period. The fact of the matter is he is always around the ball. Period. The team as a whole had a down year, and I'm not willing to cast him aside yet. Realistically he is in the last year of his contract, so if there is an indication that there will be no negotion, then and only then would I look to unload him and not follow the path of Howard.
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04-19-2006, 10:55 AM	#40
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by Boogro Name your top 10, thats all I ask. And if you think Grant is worth top 10 money, then you are crazy. For what purpose? I don't think I can make it any clearer, but what you think couldn't possibly be any lower on my list things I should be concerned about. It doesn't even make the list. You don't think he is top 10, I do. Mike D doesn't, Scouts Inc does. SO WHAT? Is there anything else you could be crying about at this moment?

04-19-2006, 09:59 AM	#31
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Funny, how just the other day Mike D. was talking on 870 AM and talking about the possibility of draft Williams and how good of an addition that would be to our defense. Also, they talked about how Grant was not very good at run blocking. Maybe whodi should write them and explain why they are wrong since he is such an expert. I like Charles Grant as well as many of you. One thing about him, he has a good motor where he helps his tackle #'s. He is not a top 10 DE and he isn't the best DE on the team.

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04-19-2006, 10:02 AM	#32
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Grant's not very good at run blocking huh? And you even made it bold. Thanks. That's not even worth my time discussing. If you don't see what's wrong with that....................... Second, go check Grant's tackle numbers, and tell me he isn't very good against the run. Do YOUR eyes tell you he isn't very good, or are you a talking head for Mike D.? I am sure though Payton and Co will work on Grant's run blocking, prob with Stinch and Jamaal's as well.

04-19-2006, 10:22 AM	#33
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	I guess your BS has me all screwed up. Exuse me, Grant is not good against the run. I was just making a point that I am not the only one who believes he is not a top 10 DE. That's it! He has a good motor and makes tackles down field after the back has done past him. I like that about him. If you are so intelligent on football skills, name your top 10 with Grant in it if you dare.

04-19-2006, 10:27 AM	#34
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I was just making a point that I am not the only one who believes he is not a top 10 DE. And i'm not the only one who thinks he is, so what? If players are only judged on one year, then NOONE would be a top 10 anything for more than one year at a time. Believe whatever you want, why in the world would you think I care that you don't think Grant is top 10? You barely know if he is tackling or blocking.

04-19-2006, 10:31 AM	#35
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Name your top 10, thats all I ask. And if you think Grant is worth top 10 money, then you are crazy.