I think you missed my point, Whodi. I like Stallworth. I would not even ponder trading him just for the sake of trading. My point from the beginning of this thread is that we have need areas I think we could address by trading him (CB, LB, DT, or heck-even another safety :D . The last one was a joke by the way). Now if we could get a talent for him at one of those needs positions, I'm all for it. If not, no way do I want to trade him. His stock is high on the trade market now & this could be our chance to bolster the defense. I'm not saying Haas or Colston can be Stallworth right away (although something about Colston makes my hair stand up when I think of his upside). And...yes, I read the part about Colston having to learn different routes. The guy played at Hofstra for Christ's sakes. I doubt very seriously that they had a complex offense.
Here's a quote from West coach Dennis Franchione after the East-West Shrine Game.......

That quote is against college guys, but point taken. Still, I don't really wanna go into the season counting too heavily on some undrafted guy. I can't get too excited about that no matter how much good stuff I read. I can get excited about Stallworth catching balls from Brees though. I do dig what you are saying, and I have said the same thing, if we get a starter caliber player at a need position for Stallworth, we may have to go for it. I am a big Devery fan as well and I hope he can step in and be the deep threat we need. But basing trading Donte on Colston's "potential," ugh. I like Haas though. And I am not trying to knock Colston. Hopefully we just keep Donte and don't have to worry about it, but if we trade him, the player we get in return must be starter quality. And hopefully will be on defense. And won't be a DE or safety.

Haas & Colston were both drafted players. Haas in the 6th & Colston in the 7th, but I do understand your point. :D

I knew we drafted Haas but Colston was our second 7th round pick? Good as undrafted. :wink:

You're just hatin' on my boy aren't you? :wink: It's o.k......in a couple of years, he'll have you converted into a believer. No kool-aid needed. :D

I WAS HOPING STALLWORTH FOR DIET PEPSI MACHINE!! (just a thought)

:nutkick: JOHNNY CAGE WINS!!

I really don't understand this love affair with Stallworth. Geez he's not irreplaceable talent. I don't want him to go but if he does I won't lose any sleep over it. Could he have a breakout season next season? Absolutely, but I could name about 5 other recievers on the cusp of "breaking out" themselves that could easily come in and replace Stallworth and the team would do no worse. He's not a special talent, not a #1 talent IMO. I've never seen him make any spectacular catches, and he doesn't go up the middle at all. Again....so you guys don't misunderstand me, I'm not in favor of trading him at all costs, but he's absolutely replaceable. As far as #2 recievers go, he's probably near the middle of the pack, maybe a little better. I counted 12 #2 recievers that I would take over him and at least 2 #3s.

I can't think of many recievers in recent memory that were mediocre with one QB and were outstanding with another. I think what we've seen from Stallworth thus far is more or less what we're gonna get.

nor can i. i don't recall horn having too many problems catching balls from ab.........
a good reciever is suppose to catch the ball, if it is catchable, and in a lot of cases, catch it if it's not catchable.........why did we draft donte in the first place?
because he was a burner with the threat to score from anywhere on the field. however, donte is not a possession reciever.........
and lord knows, we need some........horn, who is a possession reciever and probably the best reciever the saints have ever had, has lost a step, but would i trade him? no........but the times they are a changing.........we will have new faces everywhere and this includes the recievers position...............smitty

2 Points

1) I do not consider Brooks a legit NFL QB, so my verdict on Stallworth is still out.

2) I wouldn't mind D.P. MACHINE on our team, either.

Excellent points ghandi. Well, at least the first one. :wink:

2 more points:

1) Horn got 90% of ABs passes thrown his way

2) Horn led the team in drops the last couple of seasons, and just being hurt last year prob prevented him from doing it again. Now, being the recipient of so many balls his way, is Horn just butter fingers or could a garbage QB have had anything to do with his drops? Take your pick.

Anyone who says Donte hasn't done anything special is not watching Saints games or something. River City Relay? It was Donte making THREE defendes miss to get that started. Guess who has the Saints rookie record for receiving TDs? Donte, in a season cut short by injury. Stop hatin.