Stallworth's job.....

pistolpete121 · 08-15-2006, 12:21 PM

you have to remember that coach payton want's "character" player's. rumor is it, that he's been detrimental to the overall status of what the coach is trying to implement. i do not look for him to be in a saint's uniform at the end of camp.

gandhi1007 · 08-15-2006, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by pistolpete121

you have to remember that coach payton want's "character" player's. rumor is it, that he's been detrimental to the overall status of what the coach is trying to implement. i do not look for him to be in a saint's uniform at the end of camp.

As long as we get something for him.

mikesaintfan · 08-15-2006, 01:46 PM

we will probably get nothing for him just like smith

cajuntexcop · 08-15-2006, 01:52 PM

The biggest problem with this team during the Haz era was the attitude of the players. One guy with a bad tude can upset the apple cart. I say if Stallworth is an attitude problem, get what you can for him at best, or cut him. Joe Horn will play hurt, and has a attitude of wanting to win. We need to line someone opposite him with a similar attitude, no matter what. I can't see that someone being stallsworth.

WhoDat · 08-15-2006, 04:36 PM

I'm honestly amazed with all this talk. If given the chance to start, Stallworth will be our #1 WR and will have 1,000+ yards receiving. I just don't get it.

saintswhodi · 08-15-2006, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat

I'm honestly amazed with all this talk. If given the chance to start, Stallworth will be our #1 WR and will have 1,000+ yards receiving. I just don't get it.

Me and you are the only ones who still

Stallworth. Make him play the next couple of pre-season games, get his job back, and move forward. If he can't cut it, then he can;t cut it. But he has been injured, and not making the team cause of that would be pretty lame for a guy with his ability. I am beginning to sour a little on his apparent laissez-faire attitude though. I hope it's not real.

GoldRush26 · 08-15-2006, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Originally Posted by WhoDat

I'm honestly amazed with all this talk. If given the chance to start, Stallworth will be our #1 WR and will have 1,000+ yards receiving. I just don't get it.

Me and you are the only ones who still Stallworth. Make him play the next couple of pre-season games, get his job back, and move forward. If he can't cut it, then he can;t cut it. But he has been injured, and not making the team cause of that would be pretty lame for a guy with his ability. I am beginning to sour a little on his apparent laissez-faire attitude though. I hope it's not real.

It's not that people hate on Stallworth, but the writing is on the wall. It's apparent that Payton doesn't like him, which is strike one. He's having injury problems right now(strike two). It's also not good for him that Henderson is reportedly outperforming him in camp and Colston and Hass are looking good in preseason. I think he needs to concentrate on making the team period rather than being #1 reciever. Horn still has that firmly locked down anyway.

hagan714 · 08-15-2006, 07:45 PM

whodat he was the #1 last year. it is not a talent issue it is how you use it on the field. He is the biggest disappointment for 3 years now. he just needs to step it NOW. earn the big money. If he could get the drops under 8, for once, in a year he would be safe. we are still waiting. sucking it up over the middle all the time would help him.
Is whoodi on vaction? thought he would be in the middle of all this.

WhoDat · 08-15-2006, 08:25 PM

OK, first of all, to say that Donte Stallworth is the biggest disappointment of the last three years is a gross overstatement.

Second, consider the other WRs drafted around the time that he was.

Ashley Lelie - can you say that Lelie is any better right now? I can't. I'd rather have Stallworth, who has gotten better each of the last two years, not a guy on the decline.

Javon Walker - looked to be a superstar emerging in 2004, then he got hurt. Now who knows? Walker is more of a gamble right now then Stallworth, though he admittedly has greater upside potentially if he comes back.

Jabar Gaffney - talk about a guy who has underperformed. Stallworth has been better than this guy all around.

Josh Reed - do I really even need to make a comparison.

Tim Carter, Andre' Davis, Reche Caldwell... come on.

Antwaan Randle El - has never produced a year as good as Stallworth's 2005 numbers.

Antonio Bryant - he's probably the closest to Stallworth. Quietly getting better - not exactly the threat everyone thought, but growing in consistency.

All I'm saying is - there are a couple of guys who have put up big single season numbers in that group, but none of them have consistently outperformed Donte - and that's with last year's debacle. I mean, how much is enough? If the guy has 80 Rec. for 1050 yards and 8 TDs, will that be good enough?

hagan714 · 08-15-2006, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Originally Posted by WhoDat

I'm honestly amazed with all this talk. If given the chance to start, Stallworth will be our #1 WR and will have 1,000+ yards receiving. I just don't get it.

Me and you are the only ones who still Stallworth. Make him play the next couple of pre-season games, get his job back, and move forward. If he can't cut it, then he can;t cut it. But he has been injured, and not making the team cause of that would be pretty lame for a guy with his ability. I am beginning to sour a little on his apparent laissez-faire attitude though. I hope it's not real.

Sorry whodi missed your post some how. I thought a topic of donte was kind of empty without your love. He will get his chance.

08-15-2006, 12:59 PM	#12
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by pistolpete121 you have to remember that coach payton want's "character" player's. rumor is it, that he's been detrimental to the overall status of what the coach is trying to implement. i do not look for him to be in a saint's uniform at the end of camp. As long as we get something for him.

08-15-2006, 04:36 PM	#15
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	I'm honestly amazed with all this talk. If given the chance to start, Stallworth will be our #1 WR and will have 1,000+ yards receiving. I just don't get it.
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08-15-2006, 04:44 PM	#16
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by WhoDat I'm honestly amazed with all this talk. If given the chance to start, Stallworth will be our #1 WR and will have 1,000+ yards receiving. I just don't get it. Me and you are the only ones who still Stallworth. Make him play the next couple of pre-season games, get his job back, and move forward. If he can't cut it, then he can;t cut it. But he has been injured, and not making the team cause of that would be pretty lame for a guy with his ability. I am beginning to sour a little on his apparent laissez-faire attitude though. I hope it's not real.

08-15-2006, 06:07 PM	#17
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Originally Posted by WhoDat I'm honestly amazed with all this talk. If given the chance to start, Stallworth will be our #1 WR and will have 1,000+ yards receiving. I just don't get it. Me and you are the only ones who still Stallworth. Make him play the next couple of pre-season games, get his job back, and move forward. If he can't cut it, then he can;t cut it. But he has been injured, and not making the team cause of that would be pretty lame for a guy with his ability. I am beginning to sour a little on his apparent laissez-faire attitude though. I hope it's not real. It's not that people hate on Stallworth, but the writing is on the wall. It's apparent that Payton doesn't like him, which is strike one. He's having injury problems right now(strike two). It's also not good for him that Henderson is reportedly outperforming him in camp and Colston and Hass are looking good in preseason. I think he needs to concentrate on making the team period rather than being #1 reciever. Horn still has that firmly locked down anyway.
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08-15-2006, 08:25 PM	#19
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	OK, first of all, to say that Donte Stallworth is the biggest disappointment of the last three years is a gross overstatement. Second, consider the other WRs drafted around the time that he was. Ashley Lelie - can you say that Lelie is any better right now? I can't. I'd rather have Stallworth, who has gotten better each of the last two years, not a guy on the decline. Javon Walker - looked to be a superstar emerging in 2004, then he got hurt. Now who knows? Walker is more of a gamble right now then Stallworth, though he admittedly has greater upside potentially if he comes back. Jabar Gaffney - talk about a guy who has underperformed. Stallworth has been better than this guy all around. Josh Reed - do I really even need to make a comparison. Tim Carter, Andre' Davis, Reche Caldwell... come on. Antwaan Randle El - has never produced a year as good as Stallworth's 2005 numbers. Antonio Bryant - he's probably the closest to Stallworth. Quietly getting better - not exactly the threat everyone thought, but growing in consistency. All I'm saying is - there are a couple of guys who have put up big single season numbers in that group, but none of them have consistently outperformed Donte - and that's with last year's debacle. I mean, how much is enough? If the guy has 80 Rec. for 1050 yards and 8 TDs, will that be good enough?
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pistolpete121 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: biloxi ms Posts: 18	you have to remember that coach payton want's "character" player's. rumor is it, that he's been detrimental to the overall status of what the coach is trying to implement. i do not look for him to be in a saint's uniform at the end of camp.

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mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	we will probably get nothing for him just like smith

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cajuntexcop 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Raised in N.O. Stuck in Texas Posts: 134	The biggest problem with this team during the Haz era was the attitude of the players. One guy with a bad tude can upset the apple cart. I say if Stallworth is an attitude problem, get what you can for him at best, or cut him. Joe Horn will play hurt, and has a attitude of wanting to win. We need to line someone opposite him with a similar attitude, no matter what. I can't see that someone being stallsworth.

08-15-2006, 07:45 PM	#18
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	whodat he was the #1 last year. it is not a talent issue it is how you use it on the field. He is the biggest disappointment for 3 years now. he just needs to step it NOW. earn the big money. If he could get the drops under 8, for once, in a year he would be safe. we are still waiting. sucking it up over the middle all the time would help him. Is whoodi on vaction? thought he would be in the middle of all this.

08-15-2006, 08:42 PM	#20
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Originally Posted by WhoDat I'm honestly amazed with all this talk. If given the chance to start, Stallworth will be our #1 WR and will have 1,000+ yards receiving. I just don't get it. Me and you are the only ones who still Stallworth. Make him play the next couple of pre-season games, get his job back, and move forward. If he can't cut it, then he can;t cut it. But he has been injured, and not making the team cause of that would be pretty lame for a guy with his ability. I am beginning to sour a little on his apparent laissez-faire attitude though. I hope it's not real. Sorry whodi missed your post some how. I thought a topic of donte was kind of empty without your love. He will get his chance.