What is Donte Worth?

chRxis · 08-19-2006, 11:49 AM

well, i see you're point and it is valid, but what the point i'm trying to convey, that you may be missing is that hood, while a great young cb prospect with good years still in front of him, would be my no. 3 "want" from the eagles secondary.... if i'm going to trade stallworth to an nfc team, i'm going to go after one of their premier players as well, in hopes that it will hurt the balance of their team as to help out our own situation here.... honestly, any of those 3 would be an improvement to what we currently have, but if i were to pull the trigger on that trade (or even propose it) i'd request one of the two players i mentioned before, brown or sheppard....

jdiggy · 08-19-2006, 11:50 AM

our weaknesses should have been strengthened earlier (before the draft), not at the eleventh hour or waiting for the waiver wire.... we simply ignored it during the early free agent period and were hoping that what we have is good enough, which it isn't.... lots of finger crossing going on in the coaches offices.... trading stallworth leaves us with one receiving threat.... hass is a good possesion reciever and makes for a great check down option, but he's not a #2, not yet.... i hope, boy do i hope, he develops into one, esp. given joe horn's age, but right now he's a #3 at best.... same for colston and jones... henderson and johnson can go blow each other b/c that's what they do.... suck...

chRxis, I agree with you that the FO sat on their hands too long addressing our weaknesses. But now we're in this position and it needs to be dealt with, otherwise we're in for a long season.

I think Jones could be a #2 in this league. He runs clean routes and catches better than Donte'. He reminds me of a bigger, stronger Pathon. I get the feeling he's going to be dependable.

I agree that Colston and Hass could both be a good #3.

Nice slam on Devery and Bethel

D24pick · 08-19-2006, 11:52 AM

^^^Exactly, I'd give up Stall for Brown or Sheppard, but they aren't willing to do that...

So I'd go with the next best improvement, Hood and a good draft pick...And maybe we'd go with someone good in the draft, after Thomas and McKenzie leaves, we'll have Hood and Lay at good development

We'd have the best youngest, corners duo in the league

chRxis · 08-19-2006, 11:54 AM

josh lay?! right...

chRxis · 08-19-2006, 11:56 AM

jones as a number 2? that's a stretch to say the least.... don't get me wrong.... i absolutely love the guy... but not as a number 2.... if in fact we'd trade stallworth (won't happen, but for the sake of argument), i really think hass would have the inside track consider the henderson/johnson situation and the fact the hass catches everything but HIV when he's in the game....

D24pick · 08-19-2006, 11:58 AM

Lay has been impressing more at CB than all of them...He has been making sharp quick, smart decisons...He's very fast and hes no dummy, every time the ball is thrown in his area(Brees too), instead of forcing a play, he makes a play on the ball cleanly...Even in the game we had, he didn't get beat at all. Hes cousin of Ty Law, hopefully he can play like that, and one more thing, he's FAST

chRxis · 08-19-2006, 11:59 AM

the youngest corners duo will be d. hall and jimmy williams for the falcons, ken lucas and chris gamble for the panthers, shall i go on? josh lay? our 6th rd. pick this year? man alive.... that's some wishful thinking...

chRxis · 08-19-2006, 12:00 PM

oh he's the cousin of ty law?? well then hell yeah... let's induct him into canton tomorrow.... sheesh....

jdiggy · 08-19-2006, 12:00 PM

^^^^ Hass as a #2, really? While he does catch everything, I think most #2 CB's in the league could cover him THIS SEASON. As a #3 he would thrive catching passes over the middle.

D24pick · 08-19-2006, 12:02 PM

Dude, you have to see this guy play, hes sorta of faster, more consistent, Jason Sehorn
He never likes to give up a play, once Jones went ona cut route and he got there a little bit late to play the ball, he smashed Jones and then got mad at himself, dude!

I agree with you on the duo part, but we'll be up there too

08-19-2006, 11:49 AM	#21
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	well, i see you're point and it is valid, but what the point i'm trying to convey, that you may be missing is that hood, while a great young cb prospect with good years still in front of him, would be my no. 3 "want" from the eagles secondary.... if i'm going to trade stallworth to an nfc team, i'm going to go after one of their premier players as well, in hopes that it will hurt the balance of their team as to help out our own situation here.... honestly, any of those 3 would be an improvement to what we currently have, but if i were to pull the trigger on that trade (or even propose it) i'd request one of the two players i mentioned before, brown or sheppard....

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08-19-2006, 11:50 AM	#22
jdiggy 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ol' Metry Posts: 239	our weaknesses should have been strengthened earlier (before the draft), not at the eleventh hour or waiting for the waiver wire.... we simply ignored it during the early free agent period and were hoping that what we have is good enough, which it isn't.... lots of finger crossing going on in the coaches offices.... trading stallworth leaves us with one receiving threat.... hass is a good possesion reciever and makes for a great check down option, but he's not a #2, not yet.... i hope, boy do i hope, he develops into one, esp. given joe horn's age, but right now he's a #3 at best.... same for colston and jones... henderson and johnson can go blow each other b/c that's what they do.... suck... chRxis, I agree with you that the FO sat on their hands too long addressing our weaknesses. But now we're in this position and it needs to be dealt with, otherwise we're in for a long season. I think Jones could be a #2 in this league. He runs clean routes and catches better than Donte'. He reminds me of a bigger, stronger Pathon. I get the feeling he's going to be dependable. I agree that Colston and Hass could both be a good #3. Nice slam on Devery and Bethel

08-19-2006, 11:52 AM	#23
D24pick 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 578	^^^Exactly, I'd give up Stall for Brown or Sheppard, but they aren't willing to do that... So I'd go with the next best improvement, Hood and a good draft pick...And maybe we'd go with someone good in the draft, after Thomas and McKenzie leaves, we'll have Hood and Lay at good development We'd have the best youngest, corners duo in the league

08-19-2006, 11:54 AM	#24
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	josh lay?! right...

08-19-2006, 11:56 AM	#25
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	jones as a number 2? that's a stretch to say the least.... don't get me wrong.... i absolutely love the guy... but not as a number 2.... if in fact we'd trade stallworth (won't happen, but for the sake of argument), i really think hass would have the inside track consider the henderson/johnson situation and the fact the hass catches everything but HIV when he's in the game....

08-19-2006, 11:58 AM	#26
D24pick 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 578	Lay has been impressing more at CB than all of them...He has been making sharp quick, smart decisons...He's very fast and hes no dummy, every time the ball is thrown in his area(Brees too), instead of forcing a play, he makes a play on the ball cleanly...Even in the game we had, he didn't get beat at all. Hes cousin of Ty Law, hopefully he can play like that, and one more thing, he's FAST

08-19-2006, 11:59 AM	#27
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	the youngest corners duo will be d. hall and jimmy williams for the falcons, ken lucas and chris gamble for the panthers, shall i go on? josh lay? our 6th rd. pick this year? man alive.... that's some wishful thinking...

08-19-2006, 12:00 PM	#28
chRxis 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 690	oh he's the cousin of ty law?? well then hell yeah... let's induct him into canton tomorrow.... sheesh....

08-19-2006, 12:02 PM	#30
D24pick 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 578	Dude, you have to see this guy play, hes sorta of faster, more consistent, Jason Sehorn He never likes to give up a play, once Jones went ona cut route and he got there a little bit late to play the ball, he smashed Jones and then got mad at himself, dude! I agree with you on the duo part, but we'll be up there too