Brees Bashing?

TheDeuce · 09-15-2006, 10:31 AM

Who's been Brees bashing? Only people you prob should not listen to anyway?

True, but still, this guy has been getting undue criticism recently for things like not leading touchdown drives, not "looking off receivers" or some crap, and other stuff. The guy is good, and he's only going to get better in this system.

cajuntexcop · 09-15-2006, 02:05 PM

Brees will get in the endzone. He really did not have a full all out camp with these receivers. He is smart and has a mor ethan adequate arm. People at first ragged on Joe Montana for his arm strength but the guy had brains. We have dealt with a guy with a arm and no brain. I for one am glad Brees is here. He looked good based on what he went through in the offseason, and will get better and better as the season goes along. PERIOD!!!

GoldRush26 · 09-15-2006, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Who's been Brees bashing? Only people you prob should not listen to anyway?

True, but still, this guy has been getting undue criticism recently for things like not leading touchdown drives, not "looking off receivers" or some crap, and other stuff. The guy is good, and he's only going to get better in this system.

I bet Tom Brady is getting bashed in Pats' forums. I'm sure Culpepper is getting bashed in Dolphins' forums. I bet a few Cincy fans were calling Carson Palmer a wimp in preseason before he played. It's standard with most NFL teams. There will always be some fans that don't like the QB.

LongTimeFan · 09-15-2006, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Over the past few weeks I've been noticing a disturbing trend: a remarkable amount of Drew Brees bashing. People seem to be writing this guy off already as a guy who's not going to be able to reach "greatness." Before you make a list of 13 reasons why we're going to lose, and list Brees as the reason for about 8 of them, remember a few things:

1. Brees is probably still trying to get back to 100% from a rotator cuff tear. That's a serious injury that not many people can ever recover from. He's also done it faster than most doctors thought possible, which IMO is a testament to his will and his work ethic. Remember also that because of the injury, he couldn't get as much work in with his receivers during the mini camps as he would have liked to. Also, think about the psychological effects that he's battling through, trying to feel comfortable enough behind that line to put it completely out of his head.

2. Brees is on a brand new team. So far, he's played one regular season game with his teammates. He had limited duty in mini/training camps. The chemistry just might not be 100% yet. Give the guy a little time to build timing with Joe and Colston and the rest of the guys.

3. Brees is learning a brand new offense, as is the rest of the team. He came into a new city, with a new coach, who is getting his first opportunity to call the shots. The offense is probably being changed and upgraded every day as Payton looks for the best ways to use his weapons. I know it's his job to learn the plays, but the guy is learning a huge playbook at the same time he's trying to figure out how to best utilize his players with the plays the coach is calling.

4. Brees is a Pro Bowler. He might not be "great" in the sense of a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, but IMO he's every bit as good as Donovan McNabb or Carson Palmer. From 2004-2005, his completion percentage was second in the league only to a guy named Peyton. He's a career 62.2% passer. In 2004, he finished the season with a 104.8 passer rating. FACE IT, DREW BREES IS REALLY GOOD.

Anyways, my point is, Brees is a very good QB, and he's a 1,000,000X upgrade over AB; and I can legitimately say that, even though he's only played one game with his teammates and he's still trying to find that chemistry. But, IMO, even more importantly, he's a good person, a real class act. Him and his family have come into New Orleans and embraced the city. He cares about the fans and he doesn't want to let them, us, down. This guy is going to be the number one passer in Saints history when it's all said and done, let's try to show him some support.

I agree with everything you said here, I think a lot of people will be eating crow very soon, we might not make the playoffs but he will one day soon take us there, we just might have to wait another year for that to happen but soon it will happen.

saintswhodi · 09-15-2006, 11:20 PM

I don't think a lot of people will be eating crow. I think there's a very small minority that are attacking Drew Brees. I Think that small few may be eating some crow.

Euphoria · 09-15-2006, 11:28 PM

I am not on the bashing band wagon yet... but he hasn't done anything yet either.

LongTimeFan · 09-16-2006, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I am not on the bashing band wagon yet... but he hasn't done anything yet either.

One thing is for sure, he's doing much better than Brooks, most fans are really happy to have Brees,
IMO Brees is the best thing to happen to the Saints in a long time..

09-15-2006, 10:31 AM	#11
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Who's been Brees bashing? Only people you prob should not listen to anyway? True, but still, this guy has been getting undue criticism recently for things like not leading touchdown drives, not "looking off receivers" or some crap, and other stuff. The guy is good, and he's only going to get better in this system.
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09-15-2006, 02:44 PM	#13
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by TheDeuce Who's been Brees bashing? Only people you prob should not listen to anyway? True, but still, this guy has been getting undue criticism recently for things like not leading touchdown drives, not "looking off receivers" or some crap, and other stuff. The guy is good, and he's only going to get better in this system. I bet Tom Brady is getting bashed in Pats' forums. I'm sure Culpepper is getting bashed in Dolphins' forums. I bet a few Cincy fans were calling Carson Palmer a wimp in preseason before he played. It's standard with most NFL teams. There will always be some fans that don't like the QB.
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09-15-2006, 07:52 PM	#14
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: Brees Bashing? Originally Posted by TheDeuce Over the past few weeks I've been noticing a disturbing trend: a remarkable amount of Drew Brees bashing. People seem to be writing this guy off already as a guy who's not going to be able to reach "greatness." Before you make a list of 13 reasons why we're going to lose, and list Brees as the reason for about 8 of them, remember a few things: 1. Brees is probably still trying to get back to 100% from a rotator cuff tear. That's a serious injury that not many people can ever recover from. He's also done it faster than most doctors thought possible, which IMO is a testament to his will and his work ethic. Remember also that because of the injury, he couldn't get as much work in with his receivers during the mini camps as he would have liked to. Also, think about the psychological effects that he's battling through, trying to feel comfortable enough behind that line to put it completely out of his head. 2. Brees is on a brand new team. So far, he's played one regular season game with his teammates. He had limited duty in mini/training camps. The chemistry just might not be 100% yet. Give the guy a little time to build timing with Joe and Colston and the rest of the guys. 3. Brees is learning a brand new offense, as is the rest of the team. He came into a new city, with a new coach, who is getting his first opportunity to call the shots. The offense is probably being changed and upgraded every day as Payton looks for the best ways to use his weapons. I know it's his job to learn the plays, but the guy is learning a huge playbook at the same time he's trying to figure out how to best utilize his players with the plays the coach is calling. 4. Brees is a Pro Bowler. He might not be "great" in the sense of a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, but IMO he's every bit as good as Donovan McNabb or Carson Palmer. From 2004-2005, his completion percentage was second in the league only to a guy named Peyton. He's a career 62.2% passer. In 2004, he finished the season with a 104.8 passer rating. FACE IT, DREW BREES IS REALLY GOOD. Anyways, my point is, Brees is a very good QB, and he's a 1,000,000X upgrade over AB; and I can legitimately say that, even though he's only played one game with his teammates and he's still trying to find that chemistry. But, IMO, even more importantly, he's a good person, a real class act. Him and his family have come into New Orleans and embraced the city. He cares about the fans and he doesn't want to let them, us, down. This guy is going to be the number one passer in Saints history when it's all said and done, let's try to show him some support. I agree with everything you said here, I think a lot of people will be eating crow very soon, we might not make the playoffs but he will one day soon take us there, we just might have to wait another year for that to happen but soon it will happen.

09-16-2006, 12:58 PM	#17
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Originally Posted by Euphoria I am not on the bashing band wagon yet... but he hasn't done anything yet either. One thing is for sure, he's doing much better than Brooks, most fans are really happy to have Brees, IMO Brees is the best thing to happen to the Saints in a long time..

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09-15-2006, 02:05 PM	#12
cajuntexcop 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Raised in N.O. Stuck in Texas Posts: 134	Brees will get in the endzone. He really did not have a full all out camp with these receivers. He is smart and has a mor ethan adequate arm. People at first ragged on Joe Montana for his arm strength but the guy had brains. We have dealt with a guy with a arm and no brain. I for one am glad Brees is here. He looked good based on what he went through in the offseason, and will get better and better as the season goes along. PERIOD!!!

09-15-2006, 11:20 PM	#15
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I don't think a lot of people will be eating crow. I think there's a very small minority that are attacking Drew Brees. I Think that small few may be eating some crow.

09-15-2006, 11:28 PM	#16
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I am not on the bashing band wagon yet... but he hasn't done anything yet either.