June 1st Cuts

WhoDat · 06-05-2003, 04:20 PM

OK, I know that I've been out of the loop for a while, so am I missing something. A while back I was ripping on the Saints for their poor showing in FA, and everyone said just wait until the draft. Then, a lot of people ripped on them for the draft. Then everyone said wait until June 1st... well, where are all the great players that we're supposed to pick up? I like the pick up from Miami. I like TJones, and Sullivan is a nice draft pick even if we did overvalue him. BUT, considering the tremendous needs we had on defense coming into this off-season, I expected more out of this team. So to all of you fans who have defended the Saints over this off-season... it's June 5th... am I missing rumors about who we may or may not sign? If not, what's your excuse for this team now?

tweeky · 06-05-2003, 04:32 PM

BUT, considering the tremendous needs we had on defense coming into this off-season, I expected more out of this team. So to all of you fans who have defended the Saints over this off-season... it\'s June 5th... am I missing rumors about who we may or may not sign? If not, what\'s your excuse for this team now?

OK dude, I\'ll bite...

7 new starters on Defense. EVERY one of the new players is an upgrade over last years starters. 3 of the 4 returning starters are very young and should be ready to step up a notch.

1999 - 2000, Rams revamp their defense in a similar fashion and go from 28th to 3rd.

I think 7 new starters IS \"addressing the problems\"

What exactly were you expecting?

tweeky · 06-05-2003, 04:44 PM

OK, I know that I\'ve been out of the loop for a while, so am I missing something. A while back I was ripping on the Saints for their poor showing in FA, and everyone said just wait until the draft. Then, a lot of people ripped on them for the draft. Then everyone said wait until June 1st... well, where are all the great players that we\'re supposed to pick up?

After re-reading your post, there so much wrong with it I don\'t know where to begin...

1. Most respected experts thought the Saints did very well in FA. The only knock I heard was that they slightly overpaid for some of them. But wasn\'t it you blasting Benson for not coming off that wallet? I apologize if it was someone else.

2. The VAST majority of experts thought the Saints did GREAT in the draft. I didn\'t hear anybody \"ripping\" the Saints draft. I heard some say they should have taken a CB, but they certainly didn\'t RIP the Saints. The NOLA daycare posters ripped them, but they rip anything, anytime, all the time! With names like MonkeyBrooks and BrooksApe should clue you in to their intelligence levels.

3. I can\'t recall anyone who thought June 1st cuts would be anything more than adding depth at certain positions.

Did you let your little brother post for you?

[Edited on 5/6/2003 by tweeky]

rodjmaw · 06-05-2003, 04:52 PM

The Rams also had a new defense coordinator, so don\'t expect alot out of this defense. I\'ll be surprise if this defense be better than last year

rusta · 06-05-2003, 07:13 PM

you\'re not happy with our offseason or our draft

so what would you have done differantly? i can\'t think of any free agents with the exception of colvin and spikes that were great players, the draft was pretty devoid of depth, and the june 1st cuts might as well been skipped this year considering the talent that was released

i think we did pretty well considering the lack of talent in the offseason pool this year, compared to last year we upgraded the CB LB DT and S positions, even with the same D coordinator (whom i\'m not convinced was the problem) this defense should be better

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-05-2003, 07:14 PM

Well said Rusta.

D_it_up · 06-05-2003, 07:18 PM

Damn! Reading Rusta\'s replies are like listening to my dad talk. One long, continuous run-on sentence with no stopping to take a breath. :P

saint5221 · 06-05-2003, 09:13 PM

I think a lot was addressed and addressed well this off season. I questioned some of the draft picks but over all I like the talent brought in. I am excited to see what Sullivan ,Grant and Howard can become.Tebucky is a good addition at saftey and Ambrose should help the secondary. Rusta touched on the biggest error. With the state of our LB\'s I hoped we would have come up with a better answer than Ruff, Rogers and Cie. I don\'t understand why a run at either Colvin or Spikes was not made, We are sitting some ten mil under the cap before the new Horn deal ample money to have addressed the LB position in a much stronger way than we did.

LordOfEntropy · 06-05-2003, 09:36 PM

Boss Bailey. That was my gripe about the draft. We could\'ve traded up just a few spots to grab him. But we didn\'t.

LB is my biggest concern. Of course, I\'ve said this so many times that you\'re all probably tired of hearing it by now.

Two more months....

JOESAM2002 · 06-05-2003, 11:50 PM

Hmmmmmmmm, he said as he dragged his chair up beside Gator to watch the oncoming fight in this post. He turns to Gator and asks \" Gator, who do you see winning this match between Whodat and tweeky?\" Then he sits back with his ice cold brew and awaits the battle.

06-05-2003, 04:20 PM	#1
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	June 1st Cuts OK, I know that I've been out of the loop for a while, so am I missing something. A while back I was ripping on the Saints for their poor showing in FA, and everyone said just wait until the draft. Then, a lot of people ripped on them for the draft. Then everyone said wait until June 1st... well, where are all the great players that we're supposed to pick up? I like the pick up from Miami. I like TJones, and Sullivan is a nice draft pick even if we did overvalue him. BUT, considering the tremendous needs we had on defense coming into this off-season, I expected more out of this team. So to all of you fans who have defended the Saints over this off-season... it's June 5th... am I missing rumors about who we may or may not sign? If not, what's your excuse for this team now?
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06-05-2003, 04:32 PM	#2
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	June 1st Cuts BUT, considering the tremendous needs we had on defense coming into this off-season, I expected more out of this team. So to all of you fans who have defended the Saints over this off-season... it\'s June 5th... am I missing rumors about who we may or may not sign? If not, what\'s your excuse for this team now? OK dude, I\'ll bite... 7 new starters on Defense. EVERY one of the new players is an upgrade over last years starters. 3 of the 4 returning starters are very young and should be ready to step up a notch. 1999 - 2000, Rams revamp their defense in a similar fashion and go from 28th to 3rd. I think 7 new starters IS \"addressing the problems\" What exactly were you expecting?

06-05-2003, 04:44 PM	#3
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	June 1st Cuts OK, I know that I\'ve been out of the loop for a while, so am I missing something. A while back I was ripping on the Saints for their poor showing in FA, and everyone said just wait until the draft. Then, a lot of people ripped on them for the draft. Then everyone said wait until June 1st... well, where are all the great players that we\'re supposed to pick up? After re-reading your post, there so much wrong with it I don\'t know where to begin... 1. Most respected experts thought the Saints did very well in FA. The only knock I heard was that they slightly overpaid for some of them. But wasn\'t it you blasting Benson for not coming off that wallet? I apologize if it was someone else. 2. The VAST majority of experts thought the Saints did GREAT in the draft. I didn\'t hear anybody \"ripping\" the Saints draft. I heard some say they should have taken a CB, but they certainly didn\'t RIP the Saints. The NOLA daycare posters ripped them, but they rip anything, anytime, all the time! With names like MonkeyBrooks and BrooksApe should clue you in to their intelligence levels. 3. I can\'t recall anyone who thought June 1st cuts would be anything more than adding depth at certain positions. Did you let your little brother post for you? [Edited on 5/6/2003 by tweeky]
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06-05-2003, 04:52 PM	#4
rodjmaw 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 138	June 1st Cuts The Rams also had a new defense coordinator, so don\'t expect alot out of this defense. I\'ll be surprise if this defense be better than last year
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06-05-2003, 07:13 PM	#5
rusta 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 361	June 1st Cuts you\'re not happy with our offseason or our draft so what would you have done differantly? i can\'t think of any free agents with the exception of colvin and spikes that were great players, the draft was pretty devoid of depth, and the june 1st cuts might as well been skipped this year considering the talent that was released i think we did pretty well considering the lack of talent in the offseason pool this year, compared to last year we upgraded the CB LB DT and S positions, even with the same D coordinator (whom i\'m not convinced was the problem) this defense should be better
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06-05-2003, 07:14 PM	#6
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	June 1st Cuts Well said Rusta.
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06-05-2003, 07:18 PM	#7
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	June 1st Cuts Damn! Reading Rusta\'s replies are like listening to my dad talk. One long, continuous run-on sentence with no stopping to take a breath. :P

06-05-2003, 09:13 PM	#8
saint5221 500th Post Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 598	June 1st Cuts I think a lot was addressed and addressed well this off season. I questioned some of the draft picks but over all I like the talent brought in. I am excited to see what Sullivan ,Grant and Howard can become.Tebucky is a good addition at saftey and Ambrose should help the secondary. Rusta touched on the biggest error. With the state of our LB\'s I hoped we would have come up with a better answer than Ruff, Rogers and Cie. I don\'t understand why a run at either Colvin or Spikes was not made, We are sitting some ten mil under the cap before the new Horn deal ample money to have addressed the LB position in a much stronger way than we did.
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06-05-2003, 09:36 PM	#9
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	June 1st Cuts Boss Bailey. That was my gripe about the draft. We could\'ve traded up just a few spots to grab him. But we didn\'t. LB is my biggest concern. Of course, I\'ve said this so many times that you\'re all probably tired of hearing it by now. Two more months....

06-05-2003, 11:50 PM	#10
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	June 1st Cuts Hmmmmmmmm, he said as he dragged his chair up beside Gator to watch the oncoming fight in this post. He turns to Gator and asks \" Gator, who do you see winning this match between Whodat and tweeky?\" Then he sits back with his ice cold brew and awaits the battle.