Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year???

ssmitty · 01-01-2007, 09:27 AM

i'm almost positive the last time the saints swept the panthers and were out of the playoffs, it was carolina that wound up in the superbowl...
if this is payback, i'll take it..................

wheelman · 01-01-2007, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by StallworthFN

Last, I heard the argument that momentum doesn't matter? C'mon.

Remember when we were on the verge of the playoffs when we beat Car a few years back, but got screwed by the DUMB ( I still say it SUCKS ) Nfl tiebreak procedure. All the talk about the town was NO one wanted to play the SAINTS!

They were The Hottest team going into the playoffs, and had all the MOMENTUM. But now momentum doesn't matter?

My argument is that momentum doesn't exist. There are winners and losers in sports. Winners win because they play well, not because some fickle cosmic force smites the opponent with bad play.

As I said last night, the only momentum is the momentum you make. If a team wins in the playoffs, it will be because of gameplaning, execution, and pure will. I have faith that the Saints will win because that describes this team perfectly.

LSUJeremy · 01-01-2007, 04:19 PM

Are some of you mildly retarded?

It WAS a meaningless game. You know what the difference between us being 10-6 or 11-5 in relation to the playoffs? Nothing.

I mean, it would have been lovely to go in to the playoffs at 11-5 with Brees on the bench because he got hurt in a game that had absolutely zero ramifications in regards to our possible playoff success.

All this momentum crap, is exactly that. Crap.

I don't know if some of you realize this, but these guys in the NFL that spend all year busting their asses do it for one thing, and one thing only - to get to the playoffs and try to get to the Super Bowl. If you have any rational thought going on in your head you'd come to the conclusion that because that's every players goal on every single team they might just be a little bit more focused and amped up heading in to their preperation for the playoffs.

I think some of you are just looking for something to piss and moan about.

Let me point out a couple positives for a few of our clueless fans...

We had no injuries to the core group of guys that we need healthy in order to make a playoff run.

The NFL season is extremely long and hard on players bodies. That's why many of them look forward to the bye weeks to heal. The less wear and tear possible, the fresher these guys are going to be when it counts - the P-L-A-Y-O-F-F-S.

I saw a lot of heart from our second teamers and a lot of "want to". The Panthers had a 1st and goal from our 5. What happened? Our 2nd string stuffed their starters and held them to a FG.

I want to win every game like every other fan, but I didn't give a damn about what happened yesterday. If you happened to notice the body language of our starters and backups, either on the sidelines or in the game, you saw a team that looks like they're having a lot of fun, like they're very confident, and like they understood what our coaching staff was doing by resting our starters.

It's too bad that some in our fan base don't seem to be able to grasp those same concepts.

LSUJeremy · 01-01-2007, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Originally Posted by Brann

Yeah, it makes much more sense to risk injuries to our starters and get a meaningless win, doesn't it?

I already said a few posts ago that I was fine with him resting the players. But there's no way in hell I'm gonna be gleeful and happy about getting swept by the Panthers and losing our last regular season game. Sorry.

I remember this one season where we swept the Bucs.

The Bucs got a Lombardi Trophy that year.

Did we get a Broom trophy?

JOESAM2002 · 01-01-2007, 04:34 PM

Jeremy, not that I completely disagree with you....but who pissed in your wheaties? Simmer down man, life will go on.

GoldRush26 · 01-01-2007, 07:56 PM

For real.

I was disappointed yesterday in losing a game. The fact that we are going to the playoffs doesn't make a loss in a "meaningless game" more palatable. It's still a loss.

Time to move on.

LSUJeremy · 01-01-2007, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by JOESAM2002

Jeremy, not that I completely disagree with you....but who pissed in your wheaties? Simmer down man, life will go on.

I guess just after reading the entire thread it got a little on my nerves.

JOESAM2002 · 01-01-2007, 09:04 PM

No prob dude. It was just coming down a bit hard on some of the members. We all can't agree all the time and just because we disagree doesn't mean i'm a retard or anyone else to that matter. Even though most of you know I am.

BigRon · 01-01-2007, 10:05 PM

O.K. guys just think if the Chargers would have let Rivers start the last game last year Brees would not have been hurt and would not be our QB this year.The Chargers was playing a meaningless game and should have be looking at some future players but instead lost their starting QB.
The Chargers WILL miss the experience of Brees in the playoffs. I'm glad the vets got a rest against a divisional rival ( looking for cheap shots ) and will be ready to go in the playoffs with everybody healthy and a smart & experience QB ( not Brooks ) in Brees.
Now that the team and staff are thinking like winners all we need if for the fans to get rid of that OLD (win game X no matter what ) attitude and think of doing what it takes for the team to WIN THE SUPERBOWL.

blacksaint · 01-02-2007, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Some people are talking about Andy Reid as a possible COY candidate. Losing McNabb and winning with a back up has people talking about the system and coaching in Philly as being the prime factors in their success. If they come to NOLA, we really need to look out! The are stealth scary the way they're playing.

First of all, Coach Payton got that award sewed up. 1) PAYTON 2) MANGINI 3) REID. And second, i wouldn't worry about how hot Philly is playing, you remember October 15? Philly was the hottest team and McNabb was playing like the MVP, SAINTS 27, EAGLES 24. GO NFC SOUTH DIVISION CHAMPION SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

01-01-2007, 09:27 AM	#31
ssmitty 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,879	i'm almost positive the last time the saints swept the panthers and were out of the playoffs, it was carolina that wound up in the superbowl... if this is payback, i'll take it..................
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01-01-2007, 11:14 AM	#32
wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	Originally Posted by StallworthFN Last, I heard the argument that momentum doesn't matter? C'mon. Remember when we were on the verge of the playoffs when we beat Car a few years back, but got screwed by the DUMB ( I still say it SUCKS ) Nfl tiebreak procedure. All the talk about the town was NO one wanted to play the SAINTS! They were The Hottest team going into the playoffs, and had all the MOMENTUM. But now momentum doesn't matter? My argument is that momentum doesn't exist. There are winners and losers in sports. Winners win because they play well, not because some fickle cosmic force smites the opponent with bad play. As I said last night, the only momentum is the momentum you make. If a team wins in the playoffs, it will be because of gameplaning, execution, and pure will. I have faith that the Saints will win because that describes this team perfectly.
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01-01-2007, 04:19 PM	#33
LSUJeremy 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 472	Are some of you mildly retarded? It WAS a meaningless game. You know what the difference between us being 10-6 or 11-5 in relation to the playoffs? Nothing. I mean, it would have been lovely to go in to the playoffs at 11-5 with Brees on the bench because he got hurt in a game that had absolutely zero ramifications in regards to our possible playoff success. All this momentum crap, is exactly that. Crap. I don't know if some of you realize this, but these guys in the NFL that spend all year busting their asses do it for one thing, and one thing only - to get to the playoffs and try to get to the Super Bowl. If you have any rational thought going on in your head you'd come to the conclusion that because that's every players goal on every single team they might just be a little bit more focused and amped up heading in to their preperation for the playoffs. I think some of you are just looking for something to piss and moan about. Let me point out a couple positives for a few of our clueless fans... We had no injuries to the core group of guys that we need healthy in order to make a playoff run. The NFL season is extremely long and hard on players bodies. That's why many of them look forward to the bye weeks to heal. The less wear and tear possible, the fresher these guys are going to be when it counts - the P-L-A-Y-O-F-F-S. I saw a lot of heart from our second teamers and a lot of "want to". The Panthers had a 1st and goal from our 5. What happened? Our 2nd string stuffed their starters and held them to a FG. I want to win every game like every other fan, but I didn't give a damn about what happened yesterday. If you happened to notice the body language of our starters and backups, either on the sidelines or in the game, you saw a team that looks like they're having a lot of fun, like they're very confident, and like they understood what our coaching staff was doing by resting our starters. It's too bad that some in our fan base don't seem to be able to grasp those same concepts.
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01-01-2007, 04:26 PM	#34
LSUJeremy 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 472	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Originally Posted by Brann Yeah, it makes much more sense to risk injuries to our starters and get a meaningless win, doesn't it? I already said a few posts ago that I was fine with him resting the players. But there's no way in hell I'm gonna be gleeful and happy about getting swept by the Panthers and losing our last regular season game. Sorry. I remember this one season where we swept the Bucs. The Bucs got a Lombardi Trophy that year. Did we get a Broom trophy?
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01-01-2007, 07:56 PM	#36
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	For real. I was disappointed yesterday in losing a game. The fact that we are going to the playoffs doesn't make a loss in a "meaningless game" more palatable. It's still a loss. Time to move on.
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JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Jeremy, not that I completely disagree with you....but who pissed in your wheaties? Simmer down man, life will go on.

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LSUJeremy 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 472	Originally Posted by JOESAM2002 Jeremy, not that I completely disagree with you....but who pissed in your wheaties? Simmer down man, life will go on. I guess just after reading the entire thread it got a little on my nerves.
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01-01-2007, 09:04 PM	#38
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	No prob dude. It was just coming down a bit hard on some of the members. We all can't agree all the time and just because we disagree doesn't mean i'm a retard or anyone else to that matter. Even though most of you know I am.

01-01-2007, 10:05 PM	#39
BigRon Rookie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 23	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach O.K. guys just think if the Chargers would have let Rivers start the last game last year Brees would not have been hurt and would not be our QB this year.The Chargers was playing a meaningless game and should have be looking at some future players but instead lost their starting QB. The Chargers WILL miss the experience of Brees in the playoffs. I'm glad the vets got a rest against a divisional rival ( looking for cheap shots ) and will be ready to go in the playoffs with everybody healthy and a smart & experience QB ( not Brooks ) in Brees. Now that the team and staff are thinking like winners all we need if for the fans to get rid of that OLD (win game X no matter what ) attitude and think of doing what it takes for the team to WIN THE SUPERBOWL.
BigRon Rookie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 23	it proves that the Saints have looked under every rock for their kinds of players.

01-02-2007, 12:39 AM	#40
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton c Originally Posted by leilung Some people are talking about Andy Reid as a possible COY candidate. Losing McNabb and winning with a back up has people talking about the system and coaching in Philly as being the prime factors in their success. If they come to NOLA, we really need to look out! The are stealth scary the way they're playing. First of all, Coach Payton got that award sewed up. 1) PAYTON 2) MANGINI 3) REID. And second, i wouldn't worry about how hot Philly is playing, you remember October 15? Philly was the hottest team and McNabb was playing like the MVP, SAINTS 27, EAGLES 24. GO NFC SOUTH DIVISION CHAMPION SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!