Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year???

BreesFN9 · 12-31-2006, 04:31 PM

Losing 2 home games to none playoff teams,2 of your last 3, having an easier schedule, these are things that voters look at. Just to clarify to me, Hands down Payton is the coach of the year, BUT, with all the NFC vs AFC comparisons, you have to think the voters will favour the AFC coach? the Jets getting in with a 10-6 record as well in a much tougher conference and you got all the Hoopla that he deserves coach of the year. Tough call?

What R You guys thoughts?

GoldRush26 · 12-31-2006, 04:35 PM

I'm sure most everyone here will say that Payton still deserves it, and he will probably still get it, but if Eric Mangini got COY I wouldn't be disappointed.

I really wanted this win today. I guess everyojne that wanted us to rest our starters for the whole game got what they wanted though.

I just hope this game is stricken from the memory of our players. Nothing positive came from it at all.

BreesFN9 · 12-31-2006, 04:37 PM

"I just hope this game is stricken from the memory of our players. Nothing positive came from it at all."

Well said.

wheelman · 12-31-2006, 04:41 PM

^I don't see why the starters would be so upset since they barely played. It was a meaningless game. Don't read too much into it.

GoldRush26 · 12-31-2006, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by wheelman

^I don't see why the starters would be so upset since they barely played. It was a meaningless game. Don't read too much into it.

Starters or not it's a team. We win and lose as a team.

I see the Colts are playing their starters into the second. Maybe they learned that resting starters last year doesn't equate into playoff success. I think they know the importance of going into the playoffs on a roll.

JOESAM2002 · 12-31-2006, 05:04 PM

Hell, I'm proud of our boys. I think or reserves did well fpr playing against the Panthers 1st team the whole game. Our reserve defensive players played with desire and spirit. The only thing that worried me was Martins lack of arm strength.

All in all I think if any loss can be good, this one was ok. We came out unhurt. All our players healthy and the starters looked good while they were in.

wheelman · 12-31-2006, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Originally Posted by wheelman

^I don't see why the starters would be so upset since they barely played. It was a meaningless game. Don't read too much into it.

Starters or not it's a team. We win and lose as a team.

I see the Colts are playing their starters into the second. Maybe they learned that resting starters last year doesn't equate into playoff success. I think they know the importance of going into the playoffs on a roll.

The only momentum is the momentum you make. It's a myth created by teams that choke under pressure. And besides, even if momentum did exist, the bye-week would kill it anyway.

xan · 12-31-2006, 05:28 PM

The colts still have seeding to play for, so it's not a meaningless game for them. No good would come from playing a starter with the potential to be injured.

This game shouldn't have anything to do with anything, other than real time practice for the 2nd unit against the 1st unit of an NFL team. Those guys can't get enough real time reps.

By the way, does Payton winning a COY award give the team a better seeding or win in the post season?

GoldRush26 · 12-31-2006, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by wheelman

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Originally Posted by wheelman

^I don't see why the starters would be so upset since they barely played. It was a meaningless game. Don't read too much into it.

Starters or not it's a team. We win and lose as a team.

I see the Colts are playing their starters into the second. Maybe they learned that resting starters last year doesn't equate into playoff success. I think they know the importance of going into the playoffs on a roll.

The only momentum is the momentum you make. It's a myth created by teams that choke under pressure. And besides, even if momentum did exist, the bye-week would kill it anyway.

Of course momentum exists. Every team that I've ever followed mentions momentum. Winning breeds winning. Sports isn't all about the x's and o's.

If you don't think momentum exists go talk to an Eagles player.

wheelman · 12-31-2006, 05:34 PM

Winners execute and play smart. Losers don't. The Eagles are winning because they are playing team ball, and not commiiting turnovers. Oh, and actually running the ball helps too.

12-31-2006, 04:31 PM	#1
BreesFN9 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 596	Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year??? Losing 2 home games to none playoff teams,2 of your last 3, having an easier schedule, these are things that voters look at. Just to clarify to me, Hands down Payton is the coach of the year, BUT, with all the NFC vs AFC comparisons, you have to think the voters will favour the AFC coach? the Jets getting in with a 10-6 record as well in a much tougher conference and you got all the Hoopla that he deserves coach of the year. Tough call? What R You guys thoughts?

12-31-2006, 04:35 PM	#2
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year??? I'm sure most everyone here will say that Payton still deserves it, and he will probably still get it, but if Eric Mangini got COY I wouldn't be disappointed. I really wanted this win today. I guess everyojne that wanted us to rest our starters for the whole game got what they wanted though. I just hope this game is stricken from the memory of our players. Nothing positive came from it at all.
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BreesFN9 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 596	RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year??? "I just hope this game is stricken from the memory of our players. Nothing positive came from it at all." Well said.

12-31-2006, 04:41 PM	#4
wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year??? ^I don't see why the starters would be so upset since they barely played. It was a meaningless game. Don't read too much into it.
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GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year??? Originally Posted by wheelman ^I don't see why the starters would be so upset since they barely played. It was a meaningless game. Don't read too much into it. Starters or not it's a team. We win and lose as a team. I see the Colts are playing their starters into the second. Maybe they learned that resting starters last year doesn't equate into playoff success. I think they know the importance of going into the playoffs on a roll.
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JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Hell, I'm proud of our boys. I think or reserves did well fpr playing against the Panthers 1st team the whole game. Our reserve defensive players played with desire and spirit. The only thing that worried me was Martins lack of arm strength. All in all I think if any loss can be good, this one was ok. We came out unhurt. All our players healthy and the starters looked good while they were in.

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wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year??? Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Originally Posted by wheelman ^I don't see why the starters would be so upset since they barely played. It was a meaningless game. Don't read too much into it. Starters or not it's a team. We win and lose as a team. I see the Colts are playing their starters into the second. Maybe they learned that resting starters last year doesn't equate into playoff success. I think they know the importance of going into the playoffs on a roll. The only momentum is the momentum you make. It's a myth created by teams that choke under pressure. And besides, even if momentum did exist, the bye-week would kill it anyway.
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12-31-2006, 05:28 PM	#8
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year??? The colts still have seeding to play for, so it's not a meaningless game for them. No good would come from playing a starter with the potential to be injured. This game shouldn't have anything to do with anything, other than real time practice for the 2nd unit against the 1st unit of an NFL team. Those guys can't get enough real time reps. By the way, does Payton winning a COY award give the team a better seeding or win in the post season?

12-31-2006, 05:29 PM	#9
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year??? Originally Posted by wheelman Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Originally Posted by wheelman ^I don't see why the starters would be so upset since they barely played. It was a meaningless game. Don't read too much into it. Starters or not it's a team. We win and lose as a team. I see the Colts are playing their starters into the second. Maybe they learned that resting starters last year doesn't equate into playoff success. I think they know the importance of going into the playoffs on a roll. The only momentum is the momentum you make. It's a myth created by teams that choke under pressure. And besides, even if momentum did exist, the bye-week would kill it anyway. Of course momentum exists. Every team that I've ever followed mentions momentum. Winning breeds winning. Sports isn't all about the x's and o's. If you don't think momentum exists go talk to an Eagles player.
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12-31-2006, 05:34 PM	#10
wheelman Sammich Lover Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 682	RE: Re: RE: Did that loss cost Payton coach of the year??? Winners execute and play smart. Losers don't. The Eagles are winning because they are playing team ball, and not commiiting turnovers. Oh, and actually running the ball helps too.
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