Just to beat the Brooks debate to death...

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-16-2003, 01:12 PM

Gruden absolutely brought his offensive system with him from Oakland. Without going back and watching game film, I have absolutley no way of knowing what % of it got implemented. You seem like you\'ve done your homework on it, so i\'ll take your word for it.

No insult was taken..........

WhoDat · 06-17-2003, 07:40 AM

Gruden changed the system to fit his players?!!! Are you nuts...

Is it just me, or did Tampa go out and sign a TE, 2 WRs, a RB, and one or two QBs last offseason?? Gruden drastically changed their style of offense.... and in case you missed the Super Bowl, Tampa looked more like the Oakland offense than Oakland did...

You are flat wrong Billy. A coach runs his system... he gets players that fit that system... you don\'t think so? Why did Haslett get rid of two pro bowlers in Joe Johnson and La\'Roi Glover? They are obviously much better than the alternatives at that time Whitehead and Grady Jackson... b/c they wanted big D-linemen to fit their defensive system... which was supposed to be geared at stopping the run. You\'re wrong... wrong, wrong, wrong.

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-17-2003, 08:03 AM

Here ya go folks,

I want to send out congrats to LummOx. LummOx proved me wrong. I did a little
search and Tampa did indeed run many multipe offences and changed offensive formantions at the line of scrimmage. Way more so than the previous Bucs team. He also used in players in different ways. However, if you think he did not adjust his offense to his players somewhat, then I suggest you do some research. YOU WILL NEVER EVER HEAR ME SAY I\'M WRONG AGAIN. Man that hurt.

subguy · 06-17-2003, 04:18 PM

It is the coach and his assistants that have the system. The players don\'t have the system,it is given to them. Doesn\'t it make sense that a coach and his staff would try to fit in the pieces of the puzzle?

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-29-2003, 06:44 PM

As long as we\'re bringing old threads back.... Aaron anyone?

[Edited on 29/7/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

BillyCarpenter1 · 07-29-2003, 07:18 PM

As long as we\'re bringing old threads back. Aaron Anyone?

ssmitty · 07-29-2003, 07:31 PM

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06-16-2003, 01:12 PM	#31
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Just to beat the Brooks debate to death... Gruden absolutely brought his offensive system with him from Oakland. Without going back and watching game film, I have absolutley no way of knowing what % of it got implemented. You seem like you\'ve done your homework on it, so i\'ll take your word for it. No insult was taken..........
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06-17-2003, 07:40 AM	#32
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Just to beat the Brooks debate to death... Gruden changed the system to fit his players?!!! Are you nuts... Is it just me, or did Tampa go out and sign a TE, 2 WRs, a RB, and one or two QBs last offseason?? Gruden drastically changed their style of offense.... and in case you missed the Super Bowl, Tampa looked more like the Oakland offense than Oakland did... You are flat wrong Billy. A coach runs his system... he gets players that fit that system... you don\'t think so? Why did Haslett get rid of two pro bowlers in Joe Johnson and La\'Roi Glover? They are obviously much better than the alternatives at that time Whitehead and Grady Jackson... b/c they wanted big D-linemen to fit their defensive system... which was supposed to be geared at stopping the run. You\'re wrong... wrong, wrong, wrong.
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06-17-2003, 08:03 AM	#33
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Just to beat the Brooks debate to death... Here ya go folks, I want to send out congrats to LummOx. LummOx proved me wrong. I did a little search and Tampa did indeed run many multipe offences and changed offensive formantions at the line of scrimmage. Way more so than the previous Bucs team. He also used in players in different ways. However, if you think he did not adjust his offense to his players somewhat, then I suggest you do some research. YOU WILL NEVER EVER HEAR ME SAY I\'M WRONG AGAIN. Man that hurt.
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06-17-2003, 04:18 PM	#34
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,092	Just to beat the Brooks debate to death... It is the coach and his assistants that have the system. The players don\'t have the system,it is given to them. Doesn\'t it make sense that a coach and his staff would try to fit in the pieces of the puzzle?

07-29-2003, 06:44 PM	#35
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Just to beat the Brooks debate to death... As long as we\'re bringing old threads back.... Aaron anyone? [Edited on 29/7/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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