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BucNup · 06-19-2003, 08:30 AM

How do you think Gruden is going to game plan against what I have been talking about?

Also, how do you feel about the passing game of the Bucs this year and how much of a running game is going to be sufficent to keep the burden from falling square on the sholders of Brad Johnson?

You are correct with your assessments of your O-line vs. our D-line, your O-line controlled the flow of the games, which is the key to any successful outing for any team. I think what we need to do is commit solely to one aspect of your game in our next meetings, right up front no matter what happens early. I believe we got caught up in trying to defend both your pass and your run at the same time, and it resulted in a breakdown from both our secondary and D-line at various points of the game.

This was credit to the opener.

Brooks connected on 24/42 passes, for 240 yards, he threw for 2 touchdown passes in the game, while Duece ran for 109 yards. In watching that game; it appeared when we thought you were going to run you passed and vice versa. Teams are very difficult to defend under those circumstances. Your Saints worked things well; yet it took a Special Teams play to seal the victory. (26 - 20: Saints)

In game two, Brooks numbers were considerably different as he connected on 9/25 passes, for 155 yards yet he still threw 2 touchdown passes. Duece ran for 99 yards in this one. So, we actually improved overall, but we came upon another Special Teams break down, this time from our own doing.

We gave up a safety and Martin Gramatice missed a 42 yard field goal. Now, I\'m not big on kickers, but I believe if you send Gramatica out to attempt 10, 42 yard field goals, mabye he misses one? That one was against your Saints. What makes it hard to swallow, is the fact that you guys are not affected by the elements playing in a dome. So I guess he choked it off? It proved to be costly (20-23: Saints)

All and all, I think we go in to the game with much of the same stuff that we\'ve done. Captialize on our scoring opportunties and hope for the best. But we can not allow Brooks and Co. to have the freedom they enjoyed on 9/8/02; ever again........

As for our running game, I don\'t know what to expect right now.... You\'ve got to respect my honesty, right?

BucNup · 06-19-2003, 08:32 AM

Welcome back bucnup. Glad to have you with us again as I enjoy reading most of your posts. I must say though ...savor that ring....we\'ll get the next one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its\' all good.....

Thanks

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-19-2003, 09:07 AM

[quote:effcf90bf6]As for our running game, I don\'t know what to expect right now.... You\'ve got to respect my honesty, right?

I do respect your honesty. If we both do not show some honesty, we will not truely be able to have a worth while football coversation.

So, here\'s my honest take on the Bucs running back situation.

I don\'t think Pittman was \" the man \"and while Jones might not be either, I think he will have no trouble putting up (Pittman) numbers with the potential of much more. The potential to do much more is what concerns me.

[Edited on 19/6/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

coastalkid · 06-19-2003, 09:52 AM

From reading the banter between Billy and Bucnup it sounds as though yall believe, like I do, that the division will come down to either Tampa or New Orleans. What is the feelings on what Atlanta and Carolina will bring to the division??

tweeky · 06-19-2003, 10:03 AM

You guys may think this is a fluffy cop-out but I believe its a 4-way toss up for this division. I think 1st and last place will be separated by 2 wins.

1st place 11-5
4th place 9-7

[Edited on 19/6/2003 by tweeky]

[Edited on 19/6/2003 by tweeky]

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-19-2003, 10:39 AM

You guys may think this is a fluffy cop-out but I believe its a 4-way toss up for this division. I think 1st and last place will be separated by 2 wins.

1st place 11-5
4th palce 9-7

[Edited on 19/6/2003 by tweeky]

I\'ve never seen 4 teams from one divison go to the playoffs.

tweeky · 06-19-2003, 10:42 AM

Only 3 can go , One champ and 2 wildcards.

BillyCarpenter1 · 06-19-2003, 10:48 AM

Only 3 can go , One champ and 2 wildcards.

I\'ve never seen 3-teams go to the playoffs from the same division......possible though.

But that means the only games any of the teams could lose would be against each other.........not likely

tweeky · 06-19-2003, 11:00 AM

I think its happened quite a few times.
I know one year Miami, Buffalo and New England did it.

Batwood · 06-19-2003, 11:07 AM

The Old NFC Central did it a few times

In 2001 tthe Bucs, Packers, and Bears went
In 1997 tthe Bucs, Lions, and Packers went

[Edited on 19/6/2003 by Batwood]

06-19-2003, 08:30 AM	#11
BucNup 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 170	BucNup Returns !!!!!!! How do you think Gruden is going to game plan against what I have been talking about? Also, how do you feel about the passing game of the Bucs this year and how much of a running game is going to be sufficent to keep the burden from falling square on the sholders of Brad Johnson? You are correct with your assessments of your O-line vs. our D-line, your O-line controlled the flow of the games, which is the key to any successful outing for any team. I think what we need to do is commit solely to one aspect of your game in our next meetings, right up front no matter what happens early. I believe we got caught up in trying to defend both your pass and your run at the same time, and it resulted in a breakdown from both our secondary and D-line at various points of the game. This was credit to the opener. Brooks connected on 24/42 passes, for 240 yards, he threw for 2 touchdown passes in the game, while Duece ran for 109 yards. In watching that game; it appeared when we thought you were going to run you passed and vice versa. Teams are very difficult to defend under those circumstances. Your Saints worked things well; yet it took a Special Teams play to seal the victory. (26 - 20: Saints) In game two, Brooks numbers were considerably different as he connected on 9/25 passes, for 155 yards yet he still threw 2 touchdown passes. Duece ran for 99 yards in this one. So, we actually improved overall, but we came upon another Special Teams break down, this time from our own doing. We gave up a safety and Martin Gramatice missed a 42 yard field goal. Now, I\'m not big on kickers, but I believe if you send Gramatica out to attempt 10, 42 yard field goals, mabye he misses one? That one was against your Saints. What makes it hard to swallow, is the fact that you guys are not affected by the elements playing in a dome. So I guess he choked it off? It proved to be costly (20-23: Saints) All and all, I think we go in to the game with much of the same stuff that we\'ve done. Captialize on our scoring opportunties and hope for the best. But we can not allow Brooks and Co. to have the freedom they enjoyed on 9/8/02; ever again........ As for our running game, I don\'t know what to expect right now.... You\'ve got to respect my honesty, right?
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06-19-2003, 08:32 AM	#12
BucNup 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 170	BucNup Returns !!!!!!! Welcome back bucnup. Glad to have you with us again as I enjoy reading most of your posts. I must say though ...savor that ring....we\'ll get the next one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its\' all good..... Thanks

06-19-2003, 09:07 AM	#13
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	BucNup Returns !!!!!!! [quote:effcf90bf6]As for our running game, I don\'t know what to expect right now.... You\'ve got to respect my honesty, right? I do respect your honesty. If we both do not show some honesty, we will not truely be able to have a worth while football coversation. So, here\'s my honest take on the Bucs running back situation. I don\'t think Pittman was \" the man \"and while Jones might not be either, I think he will have no trouble putting up (Pittman) numbers with the potential of much more. The potential to do much more is what concerns me. [Edited on 19/6/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
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06-19-2003, 09:52 AM	#14
coastalkid 100th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 287	BucNup Returns !!!!!!! From reading the banter between Billy and Bucnup it sounds as though yall believe, like I do, that the division will come down to either Tampa or New Orleans. What is the feelings on what Atlanta and Carolina will bring to the division??

06-19-2003, 10:03 AM	#15
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	BucNup Returns !!!!!!! You guys may think this is a fluffy cop-out but I believe its a 4-way toss up for this division. I think 1st and last place will be separated by 2 wins. 1st place 11-5 4th place 9-7 [Edited on 19/6/2003 by tweeky] [Edited on 19/6/2003 by tweeky]

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06-19-2003, 10:39 AM	#16
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	BucNup Returns !!!!!!! You guys may think this is a fluffy cop-out but I believe its a 4-way toss up for this division. I think 1st and last place will be separated by 2 wins. 1st place 11-5 4th palce 9-7 [Edited on 19/6/2003 by tweeky] I\'ve never seen 4 teams from one divison go to the playoffs.
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06-19-2003, 10:42 AM	#17
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	BucNup Returns !!!!!!! Only 3 can go , One champ and 2 wildcards.

06-19-2003, 10:48 AM	#18
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	BucNup Returns !!!!!!! Only 3 can go , One champ and 2 wildcards. I\'ve never seen 3-teams go to the playoffs from the same division......possible though. But that means the only games any of the teams could lose would be against each other.........not likely
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06-19-2003, 11:00 AM	#19
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	BucNup Returns !!!!!!! I think its happened quite a few times. I know one year Miami, Buffalo and New England did it.

06-19-2003, 11:07 AM	#20
Batwood Registered Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 55	BucNup Returns !!!!!!! The Old NFC Central did it a few times In 2001 tthe Bucs, Packers, and Bears went In 1997 tthe Bucs, Lions, and Packers went [Edited on 19/6/2003 by Batwood]
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