Good Season boys...but its time to draft a CB.

hagan714 · 01-22-2007, 07:10 AM

do not back on Samuel gang. Pats have struggled with CB for the past 5 years. Keeping them healthy is the big problem. I think he is on board with the Pats way of thinking. He has given all the signs of wanting to stay a Pat.
Just remember Stinch is also a free agent this year. So a RT maybe high on the list. Some team will offer good money to him, that i am sure of. So signing a FA or drafting a tackle, be they left or right, might be on the shopping list too.

patdog · 01-22-2007, 08:44 AM

`I know we need a CB because Fred Toast sucks. but maybe our secondary sucks because we can never play zone. We always need to put our safetys in the box to help stop the run, maybe we need a run stopping Middle LB more so we can get out of man to man all the time. Take a look at the bears they play alot of zone.

mikesaintfan · 01-22-2007, 08:49 AM

clement from buffalo

papz · 01-22-2007, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by patdog

`I know we need a CB because Fred Toast sucks. but maybe our secondary sucks because we can never play zone. We always need to put our safetys in the box to help stop the run, maybe we need a run stopping Middle LB more so we can get out of man to man all the time. Take a look at the bears they play alot of zone.

I can agree with that. Our scheme doesn't position our corners to be in it's best position to succeed. We need a playmaking linebacker or DT. As far as corner help, I think the best route to approach it is through free agency. There's no corner that's going to be able to step in and start for us immediately.

mikesaintfan · 01-22-2007, 09:22 AM

teach a-mac the trade of cb

pakowitz · 01-22-2007, 04:17 PM

F.T. doesnt suck, he is a solid nickle corner but he gets burned by trying to play press coverage and then doesnt recover from the double move... it also would help if bullocks would give him some help over the top but he is usually slow to react and is out of position... F.T. shouldnt get all the blame.. bullocks shoulda been there to help... on the berrian crazy TD catch.. bullocks was 5 yards away from where berrian was and didnt look like he was even trying to get there to make a play

as for F.A's i like clement from buffalo... he is pretty solid and would give us a very strong secondary plus i like the addition of a rookie as well... maybe the Thorpe award winner Aaron Ross from TX longhorns.. he is pretty good and the longhorns have done a good job putting out NFL caliber Corners and safetys the past few years

SaintPauly · 01-22-2007, 09:55 PM

I watched that ILB from Ole Miss play the last few years. I think he is going to be a formitable player in the NFL. I also think, that not alot of people know who he is, so there's a good chance he's going to be around at the end of the first round. I like Fujita, and Simoneou, but either a run stuffing MLB, or ILB would be a major pick up in F.A. or in the draft.

26DEUCE26 · 01-22-2007, 10:04 PM

I think we should try to get a CB via FA, & resign Grant if we can afford it.

pakowitz · 01-22-2007, 10:09 PM

id also like to see an upgrade at middle linebacker... danny clark was supposed to be the "guy" but hasnt lived up to his billing i guess... he makes some plays on special teams but couldnt beat out simoneau i guess... if willis is there when we pick.. he would be super hard to pass up... being the best LB in the SEC for 2 years is hard to do...

lumm0x · 01-22-2007, 11:17 PM

I would hate to see Grant leave. I've always liked him and I think he's enjoyed playing for Payton, he's been a force all season and I don't think Ninkovich is ready to be a full time starter. Add to that we don't have a ton of depth at DE and were platooning alot of tweener DT's like Lake, Whitehead, etc. in the rotation. I see us shelling out the money to keep him and I don't see him being too greedy.

01-22-2007, 07:10 AM	#11
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	RE: Re: RE: Good Season boys...but its time to draft a CB. do not back on Samuel gang. Pats have struggled with CB for the past 5 years. Keeping them healthy is the big problem. I think he is on board with the Pats way of thinking. He has given all the signs of wanting to stay a Pat. Just remember Stinch is also a free agent this year. So a RT maybe high on the list. Some team will offer good money to him, that i am sure of. So signing a FA or drafting a tackle, be they left or right, might be on the shopping list too.

01-22-2007, 08:44 AM	#12
patdog 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: westwego La Posts: 194	RE: Re: RE: Good Season boys...but its time to draft a CB. `I know we need a CB because Fred Toast sucks. but maybe our secondary sucks because we can never play zone. We always need to put our safetys in the box to help stop the run, maybe we need a run stopping Middle LB more so we can get out of man to man all the time. Take a look at the bears they play alot of zone.

01-22-2007, 08:49 AM	#13
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	RE: Re: RE: Good Season boys...but its time to draft a CB. clement from buffalo

01-22-2007, 09:16 AM	#14
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Re: RE: Re: RE: Good Season boys...but its time to draft a C Originally Posted by patdog `I know we need a CB because Fred Toast sucks. but maybe our secondary sucks because we can never play zone. We always need to put our safetys in the box to help stop the run, maybe we need a run stopping Middle LB more so we can get out of man to man all the time. Take a look at the bears they play alot of zone. I can agree with that. Our scheme doesn't position our corners to be in it's best position to succeed. We need a playmaking linebacker or DT. As far as corner help, I think the best route to approach it is through free agency. There's no corner that's going to be able to step in and start for us immediately.

01-22-2007, 04:17 PM	#16
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	F.T. doesnt suck, he is a solid nickle corner but he gets burned by trying to play press coverage and then doesnt recover from the double move... it also would help if bullocks would give him some help over the top but he is usually slow to react and is out of position... F.T. shouldnt get all the blame.. bullocks shoulda been there to help... on the berrian crazy TD catch.. bullocks was 5 yards away from where berrian was and didnt look like he was even trying to get there to make a play as for F.A's i like clement from buffalo... he is pretty solid and would give us a very strong secondary plus i like the addition of a rookie as well... maybe the Thorpe award winner Aaron Ross from TX longhorns.. he is pretty good and the longhorns have done a good job putting out NFL caliber Corners and safetys the past few years
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01-22-2007, 09:22 AM	#15
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	teach a-mac the trade of cb

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SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	I watched that ILB from Ole Miss play the last few years. I think he is going to be a formitable player in the NFL. I also think, that not alot of people know who he is, so there's a good chance he's going to be around at the end of the first round. I like Fujita, and Simoneou, but either a run stuffing MLB, or ILB would be a major pick up in F.A. or in the draft.

01-22-2007, 10:04 PM	#18
26DEUCE26 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 116	I think we should try to get a CB via FA, & resign Grant if we can afford it.
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01-22-2007, 10:09 PM	#19
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	id also like to see an upgrade at middle linebacker... danny clark was supposed to be the "guy" but hasnt lived up to his billing i guess... he makes some plays on special teams but couldnt beat out simoneau i guess... if willis is there when we pick.. he would be super hard to pass up... being the best LB in the SEC for 2 years is hard to do...

01-22-2007, 11:17 PM	#20
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	I would hate to see Grant leave. I've always liked him and I think he's enjoyed playing for Payton, he's been a force all season and I don't think Ninkovich is ready to be a full time starter. Add to that we don't have a ton of depth at DE and were platooning alot of tweener DT's like Lake, Whitehead, etc. in the rotation. I see us shelling out the money to keep him and I don't see him being too greedy.