draft pick explanations

hagan714 · 05-02-2007, 06:24 AM

McKinley Boykin, DT 6-1 289 24 1 Mississippi
BIO: Two-starter and previous All-Conference selection who posted 40/9.5/3 as a senior after 36/8.5/2 the prior year.

POSITIVES: Explosive, penetrating one-gap tackle. Quickly gets off the snap, plays low to the ground and keeps his feet moving on contact. Effectively works his hands to get off blocks, stays with the action and is focused on by opponents. Can change direction and collapse laterally in pursuit.

NEGATIVES: Easily stymied at the point or turned off the line by opponents.

ANALYSIS: Developing his game the past three seasons, Boykin has the skills to play a three-technique position at the next level or can be used as a rotational tackle.

PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ayers/170.html

hagan714 · 05-02-2007, 06:52 AM

Young drove me crazy when I did the my review of the CB in the 2007 draft. I could find nothing on him. I mean I looked all over the web. I am cheap and believe in free info.. Pilage and rape mentality...Any how. After hours searching, 4 search engines and link after link all I really got was:
" The word is out on this kid after today(Pro). He is no longer flying under the radar."
Thats it. no positives or negatives about his play. Well he definitly has no issues. Then we pick him!!!!!!!! Imagine my reaction. I threw my trusty sponge brick at the tube. Anger mangement issues. Well I knew his name thats for sure.

hagan714 · 05-02-2007, 06:59 AM

Got any other info on the street FA or practice squad players from 06 that the Saints are high on, that we have not talked about? There has to be more than Boykin.

Tobias-Reiper · 05-02-2007, 07:13 AM

"highly rated players" means squat once they get on an NFL game, as does the "point system". When you pick someone or how "highly rated" he was don't count towards the playoffs or the Super Bowl.

It's not like "Oh, they picked this guy in the 5th round and he was rated to go in the 3rd round. Saints get home field advantage".

ScottyRo · 05-02-2007, 11:55 AM

It could be that you are looking at short term needs and the FO was looking longer term. I'm not suggesting that Deuce is gone, but maybe the big picture for the FO doesn't include Stecker if Pittman can digest the playbook and perform adequately. Then there is a potential that we have someone who might be better than Stecker at a lesser pay. I'd say a 5th round pick (trade price included) for a player to come in and do that is a steal.

ScottyRo · 05-02-2007, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by ScottyRo

I'd say a 5th round pick (trade price included) for a player to come in and do that is a steal.

Ooops. Make that 4th round pick. I still feel the same about it.

Bobaganoosh · 05-02-2007, 01:19 PM

Boykin is the only name that i heard from people regarding last years street FAs. Also, another thing i heard on Walter Thomas, they are having a hard time finding workout clothes big enough for him. I am not going to say the staff is banking on him to put his stuff together, but they are pulling for him to fullfill his potential. They think with a year or two of tutelage from Hollis Thomas, who also was undrafted, they think he can really turn into a dominant force in the middle.

Euphoria · 05-02-2007, 01:19 PM

Pittman in the 4th round is a steal no matter what pick in the 4th round. He should not have been there and the Saints realized it. If he becomes your guy in the 4th round you wheel and deal and get the guy.

Unlike some of you I have heard of Young before the draft, I had him on my radar. You can't go for what some mag rags are showing at BAP or who is rated higher than others. You see a guy and you want to take a chance on him... you go for it. Thats how come the Saints ended up in the NFC Championship in one year under Payton. COLSTON in round 7.

No one knows whats going to happen so you get the best available player that YOU believe, not what some publications or polls say. Most of its all guess work...

Bobaganoosh · 05-02-2007, 01:33 PM

What you have to understand is that most of those magazines were printed up either before or right after the combine. Alot of the guys in the draft from smaller schools arent on there because they had no info on them. It doesnt take into account and Pro Days or personal workouts. So dont read too much into those magazines.

05-02-2007, 06:24 AM	#11
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	McKinley Boykin, DT 6-1 289 24 1 Mississippi BIO: Two-starter and previous All-Conference selection who posted 40/9.5/3 as a senior after 36/8.5/2 the prior year. POSITIVES: Explosive, penetrating one-gap tackle. Quickly gets off the snap, plays low to the ground and keeps his feet moving on contact. Effectively works his hands to get off blocks, stays with the action and is focused on by opponents. Can change direction and collapse laterally in pursuit. NEGATIVES: Easily stymied at the point or turned off the line by opponents. ANALYSIS: Developing his game the past three seasons, Boykin has the skills to play a three-technique position at the next level or can be used as a rotational tackle. PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ayers/170.html
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

05-02-2007, 06:52 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Young drove me crazy when I did the my review of the CB in the 2007 draft. I could find nothing on him. I mean I looked all over the web. I am cheap and believe in free info.. Pilage and rape mentality...Any how. After hours searching, 4 search engines and link after link all I really got was: " The word is out on this kid after today(Pro). He is no longer flying under the radar." Thats it. no positives or negatives about his play. Well he definitly has no issues. Then we pick him!!!!!!!! Imagine my reaction. I threw my trusty sponge brick at the tube. Anger mangement issues. Well I knew his name thats for sure.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins Last edited by hagan714; 05-02-2007 at 06:53 AM.. Reason: suck at typing

05-02-2007, 06:59 AM	#13
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Bobaganoosh Got a Question for You. Got any other info on the street FA or practice squad players from 06 that the Saints are high on, that we have not talked about? There has to be more than Boykin.

05-02-2007, 12:09 PM	#16
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Originally Posted by ScottyRo I'd say a 5th round pick (trade price included) for a player to come in and do that is a steal. Ooops. Make that 4th round pick. I still feel the same about it.

05-02-2007, 01:19 PM	#18
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Steal Pittman in the 4th round is a steal no matter what pick in the 4th round. He should not have been there and the Saints realized it. If he becomes your guy in the 4th round you wheel and deal and get the guy. Unlike some of you I have heard of Young before the draft, I had him on my radar. You can't go for what some mag rags are showing at BAP or who is rated higher than others. You see a guy and you want to take a chance on him... you go for it. Thats how come the Saints ended up in the NFC Championship in one year under Payton. COLSTON in round 7. No one knows whats going to happen so you get the best available player that YOU believe, not what some publications or polls say. Most of its all guess work...

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05-02-2007, 07:13 AM	#14
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	"highly rated players" means squat once they get on an NFL game, as does the "point system". When you pick someone or how "highly rated" he was don't count towards the playoffs or the Super Bowl. It's not like "Oh, they picked this guy in the 5th round and he was rated to go in the 3rd round. Saints get home field advantage".

05-02-2007, 11:55 AM	#15
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	It could be that you are looking at short term needs and the FO was looking longer term. I'm not suggesting that Deuce is gone, but maybe the big picture for the FO doesn't include Stecker if Pittman can digest the playbook and perform adequately. Then there is a potential that we have someone who might be better than Stecker at a lesser pay. I'd say a 5th round pick (trade price included) for a player to come in and do that is a steal.

05-02-2007, 01:19 PM	#17
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	Boykin is the only name that i heard from people regarding last years street FAs. Also, another thing i heard on Walter Thomas, they are having a hard time finding workout clothes big enough for him. I am not going to say the staff is banking on him to put his stuff together, but they are pulling for him to fullfill his potential. They think with a year or two of tutelage from Hollis Thomas, who also was undrafted, they think he can really turn into a dominant force in the middle.

05-02-2007, 01:33 PM	#19
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	What you have to understand is that most of those magazines were printed up either before or right after the combine. Alot of the guys in the draft from smaller schools arent on there because they had no info on them. It doesnt take into account and Pro Days or personal workouts. So dont read too much into those magazines.