draft pick explanations

Crusader · 04-30-2007, 03:18 PM

Bobaganoosh, where did you get that info? It sounds great.

Does it matter where a guy is picked if he helps the team? If he is a good fit as a starter or a backup and helps the team get better that waqy I don't care if he's a reach or not.

ChippySwans · 04-30-2007, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Does it matter where a guy is picked if he helps the team?

It most definitely does matter. If you can pick high rated players early and save some of the guy we drafted for the end of free agency it allows you to get more player of a high quality.

Euphoria · 04-30-2007, 04:01 PM

I think people should go do some reasearch first. Most of the guys we drafted were rated in the top 100 players. Pittman was a steal in the 4th round no matter what pick we got him!

Bobaganoosh · 04-30-2007, 06:17 PM

One more thing...i have heard a lot of people call Meachem a young Joe Horn and that is all fine. But one thing i forgot to mention is that Curtis Johnson, the WR coach for the Saints and formerly at the University of Miami, said that Meachem is very similar to Andre Johnson in terms of his size, speed, blocking and playmaking ability. Its nice to know the guy that taught Andre Johnson first hand is pleased to have another one just like him.

hagan714 · 05-01-2007, 01:33 PM

Thanks for bringing up UFA in the future. I believe in the big picture also.

iceshack149 · 05-02-2007, 02:32 AM

You have to hand it to this staff. I bought 2 draft magazines to do a little research before the draft and to look up the players as they drafted them. Like last year, they picked guys that aren't even in these magazines- Lindy's and ProFootballWeekly (Say what you will about PFW but it was an entertaining $7.00 investment.)

I was disappointed with the Meachem pick at first but am now convinced that it was a good pick. I also feel that Rhema McKnight was a good signing after the draft. Two receivers that will make it a challenging training camp for all the receivers not named Colston.

I was puzzled with the Usama Young pick. Never heard of him and he's the #19 CB in PFW and not even listed in Lindy's.

It's at this point in the draft that I told myself "O.K., I'm not an expert and don't get to see what the scouts see so I've just got to drink some more and believe that this staff knows what they're doing. They did an excellent job last year so I'll stop taking it so seriously."

Next comes Alleman. PFW's list on the downside qualities of Alleman would make you think that he did something to piss them off. The last part reads, "Very arrogant- thinks he is much better than he is and acts as if he has all the answers."
Both mags state that he is raw and strong with poor technique.

Skipping ahead to round four and I'll stop is Antonio Pittman. At least I'd heard of this guy but with Duece, Bush, Stecker, Branch and MacAfee you just knew it... MacAfee 's gone. But really, I think most of us we're intrigued by Branch last year. He sure played well in the pre-season so for the FO to trade up for yet another RB it just seemed weird. I'm sure he'll be a special teams guy but it's still cooky in my opinion.

No grade given. I'm very excited to see these kids in the pre-season and more excited for the regular season. The draft is one great big tease.

hagan714 · 05-02-2007, 05:24 AM

McKinley Boykin, DT 6-1 289 24 1 Mississippi
BIO: Two-starter and previous All-Conference selection who posted 40/9.5/3 as a senior after 36/8.5/2 the prior year.

POSITIVES: Explosive, penetrating one-gap tackle. Quickly gets off the snap, plays low to the ground and keeps his feet moving on contact. Effectively works his hands to get off blocks, stays with the action and is focused on by opponents. Can change direction and collapse laterally in pursuit.

NEGATIVES: Easily stymied at the point or turned off the line by opponents.

ANALYSIS: Developing his game the past three seasons, Boykin has the skills to play a three-technique position at the next level or can be used as a rotational tackle.

PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ayers/170.html

hagan714 · 05-02-2007, 05:59 AM

Got any other info on the street FA or practice squad players from 06 that the Saints are high on, that we have not talked about? There has to be more than Boykin.

ScottyRo · 05-02-2007, 10:55 AM

It could be that you are looking at short term needs and the FO was looking longer term. I'm not suggesting that Deuce is gone, but maybe the big picture for the FO doesn't include Stecker if Pittman can digest the playbook and perform adequately. Then there is a potential that we have someone who might be better than Stecker at a lesser pay. I'd say a 5th round pick (trade price included) for a player to come in and do that is a steal.

ScottyRo · 05-02-2007, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by ScottyRo

I'd say a 5th round pick (trade price included) for a player to come in and do that is a steal.

Ooops. Make that 4th round pick. I still feel the same about it.

04-30-2007, 03:25 PM	#2
ChippySwans Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29	Originally Posted by Crusader Does it matter where a guy is picked if he helps the team? It most definitely does matter. If you can pick high rated players early and save some of the guy we drafted for the end of free agency it allows you to get more player of a high quality.
ChippySwans Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29

04-30-2007, 04:01 PM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	??? I think people should go do some reasearch first. Most of the guys we drafted were rated in the top 100 players. Pittman was a steal in the 4th round no matter what pick we got him!

05-02-2007, 05:24 AM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	McKinley Boykin, DT 6-1 289 24 1 Mississippi BIO: Two-starter and previous All-Conference selection who posted 40/9.5/3 as a senior after 36/8.5/2 the prior year. POSITIVES: Explosive, penetrating one-gap tackle. Quickly gets off the snap, plays low to the ground and keeps his feet moving on contact. Effectively works his hands to get off blocks, stays with the action and is focused on by opponents. Can change direction and collapse laterally in pursuit. NEGATIVES: Easily stymied at the point or turned off the line by opponents. ANALYSIS: Developing his game the past three seasons, Boykin has the skills to play a three-technique position at the next level or can be used as a rotational tackle. PROJECTION: Undrafted Free Agent http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ayers/170.html
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

05-02-2007, 05:59 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Bobaganoosh Got a Question for You. Got any other info on the street FA or practice squad players from 06 that the Saints are high on, that we have not talked about? There has to be more than Boykin.

05-02-2007, 11:09 AM	#10
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Originally Posted by ScottyRo I'd say a 5th round pick (trade price included) for a player to come in and do that is a steal. Ooops. Make that 4th round pick. I still feel the same about it.

04-30-2007, 03:18 PM	#1
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,051	Bobaganoosh, where did you get that info? It sounds great. Does it matter where a guy is picked if he helps the team? If he is a good fit as a starter or a backup and helps the team get better that waqy I don't care if he's a reach or not.

04-30-2007, 06:17 PM	#4
Bobaganoosh PorkchopExpress Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 608 Blog Entries: 2	One more thing...i have heard a lot of people call Meachem a young Joe Horn and that is all fine. But one thing i forgot to mention is that Curtis Johnson, the WR coach for the Saints and formerly at the University of Miami, said that Meachem is very similar to Andre Johnson in terms of his size, speed, blocking and playmaking ability. Its nice to know the guy that taught Andre Johnson first hand is pleased to have another one just like him.

05-01-2007, 01:33 PM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Thanks for bringing up UFA in the future. I believe in the big picture also.

05-02-2007, 02:32 AM	#6
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,458 Blog Entries: 1	You have to hand it to this staff. I bought 2 draft magazines to do a little research before the draft and to look up the players as they drafted them. Like last year, they picked guys that aren't even in these magazines- Lindy's and ProFootballWeekly (Say what you will about PFW but it was an entertaining $7.00 investment.) I was disappointed with the Meachem pick at first but am now convinced that it was a good pick. I also feel that Rhema McKnight was a good signing after the draft. Two receivers that will make it a challenging training camp for all the receivers not named Colston. I was puzzled with the Usama Young pick. Never heard of him and he's the #19 CB in PFW and not even listed in Lindy's. It's at this point in the draft that I told myself "O.K., I'm not an expert and don't get to see what the scouts see so I've just got to drink some more and believe that this staff knows what they're doing. They did an excellent job last year so I'll stop taking it so seriously." Next comes Alleman. PFW's list on the downside qualities of Alleman would make you think that he did something to piss them off. The last part reads, "Very arrogant- thinks he is much better than he is and acts as if he has all the answers." Both mags state that he is raw and strong with poor technique. Skipping ahead to round four and I'll stop is Antonio Pittman. At least I'd heard of this guy but with Duece, Bush, Stecker, Branch and MacAfee you just knew it... MacAfee 's gone. But really, I think most of us we're intrigued by Branch last year. He sure played well in the pre-season so for the FO to trade up for yet another RB it just seemed weird. I'm sure he'll be a special teams guy but it's still cooky in my opinion. No grade given. I'm very excited to see these kids in the pre-season and more excited for the regular season. The draft is one great big tease.

05-02-2007, 10:55 AM	#9
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	It could be that you are looking at short term needs and the FO was looking longer term. I'm not suggesting that Deuce is gone, but maybe the big picture for the FO doesn't include Stecker if Pittman can digest the playbook and perform adequately. Then there is a potential that we have someone who might be better than Stecker at a lesser pay. I'd say a 5th round pick (trade price included) for a player to come in and do that is a steal.