Fred Thomas article......

9thWardDesire · 06-08-2007, 01:06 PM

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blacksaint · 06-08-2007, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I like that better than toast

Yeah "DOUBLE MOVE" fits him better, besides "TOAST" will forever be taken by the infamous Toi "TOAST" Cook.

D24pick · 06-09-2007, 02:46 PM

i agree totally. i wouldnt blame any safety we have on the team. we play a cover 1, and once again you people know what that is. one safety up top, most of the time, stout or bellamy. bullocks stayed in the box for run-support, while thomas got beat on his own. he isnt the quick recover guy he once was anymore. he needs to learn new stratagies for his lack of quickness. he got beat on double moves all last year, and no safeties had to do with anything. people may say, "well we brung in tons of safeties this offseason". well this is because we aren't young at the position and the injury of harper couldve been worse than we all thought. the bullocks and harper tandem will stay alive with a mixture of sneaky kk

Teechauze · 06-11-2007, 11:46 AM

I can't help but try to take up for Freddie T. He gave up some big plays last year, and maybe it's time for him to hang it up, but in seasons past he was always a contributer. What he lacked in atheletism he always made up for with heart. And didn't he lead the team in interceptions one year?
He has always had a great attitude. I just hate to see him go out like this.

Euphoria · 06-11-2007, 12:50 PM

I seriously see the writing on the wall... I think he's done. We have some interesting talent and I think its time we cut our losts. He had 2 maybe 3 good seasons with us and been in the NFL a lot of years, he's losing a step a second now.

saintsrule · 06-11-2007, 03:41 PM

He was doing well last year, better than the rest of the CBs, besides Mike. He get hurt and was still the second best CB on the team. I don't care if he is the starter or not, he will play better, since he is not hurt.

D24pick · 06-12-2007, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

is as much to blame as is Freddie T. Listen, my hat's off to FT. He's an aging player and wouldn't start on almost any team in the league. However, he gutted it out and gave his all on every play. Yeah, he's lost a step, but he played his heart out. Now, age is a legitimate excuse. What is Bullocks excuse? To me, he has to shoulder much of the blame last year. He played absolutely terribly, if you ask me. You watch the film and he was always out of position, missed easy tackles and made ZERO plays from his S position. To me, this is a make or break year for him as a Saint. If KK takes his job, I envision Bullocks going somewhere else next season via trade or cut.

bro, watch the film, most of bullock's plays he's up in run support.

blacksaint · 06-12-2007, 08:36 AM

Man, did you watch any of the games last season? Freddie "DOUBLE MOVE" Thomas got beat on some of the most simple stop and go plays I've ever seen. Look, screw sentimental feelings, we're trying to win a CHAMPIONSHIP here and with Freddie T. starting back there it won't happen. I like Freddie, it's not personal, but after last year he's nothing more than a nickle or dime back period, and I'm leaning to more of a dime back, and backup to the nickle. Freddie was a good player in his day, but at some point it comes to an end, and I think his is rapidly approaching. With that being said my best memory of Fred goes back a few years, we were playing the Minnesota Vikings and they put Freddie T. on the big bad Randy Moss, and the result: Moss one (1) catch for six (6) yards. That was just incredible, amazing, but that was then and this is now, nothing personal, if Freddie was to return to those days, I'll be right there cheering him on, but I doubt it very much.

D24pick · 06-13-2007, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

so Bullocks was in run support. That doesn't say much for him. He missed more tackles than anyone on the team. Listen, an NFL safety in today's game has to tackle AND cover. In my opinion, Bullocks doesn't excel in either. He has good measurables and poor instincts ala Sedrick Hodge.

stop covering for fred thomas so much. im not gonna explain it to ya all over again, blacksaint's post sums it all up. he's not as good as he was anymore dude. people like fred thom,as so they blaim it all on bullocks, cause they witnessed him dropping a few int's. most of bullocks plays was where he was up in the box man. we play a cover 1 man-to-man, with one safety up top, which was stout or bellamy. with their lack of atheleticsm, they got beat as well as thomas play after play.

bullocks may have dropped some picks, but when he was up top in coverage, he got beat very little on big plays. face it, thomas was the one getting beat yo. if bullocks misses so many tackles he wouldn't be so high up in the tackles categoryy now would he? he made stops, you're just saying that because of the bears game, and that pretty t.o. block in the dallas game. other than those obvious plays bullocks stood his ground pretty well for a 2nd year man

06-08-2007, 11:47 PM	#12
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Originally Posted by hagan714 I like that better than toast Yeah "DOUBLE MOVE" fits him better, besides "TOAST" will forever be taken by the infamous Toi "TOAST" Cook.

06-09-2007, 02:46 PM	#13
D24pick 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 578	i agree totally. i wouldnt blame any safety we have on the team. we play a cover 1, and once again you people know what that is. one safety up top, most of the time, stout or bellamy. bullocks stayed in the box for run-support, while thomas got beat on his own. he isnt the quick recover guy he once was anymore. he needs to learn new stratagies for his lack of quickness. he got beat on double moves all last year, and no safeties had to do with anything. people may say, "well we brung in tons of safeties this offseason". well this is because we aren't young at the position and the injury of harper couldve been worse than we all thought. the bullocks and harper tandem will stay alive with a mixture of sneaky kk
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06-11-2007, 03:41 PM	#16
saintsrule 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 657	He was doing well last year, better than the rest of the CBs, besides Mike. He get hurt and was still the second best CB on the team. I don't care if he is the starter or not, he will play better, since he is not hurt.
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06-12-2007, 12:44 AM	#17
D24pick 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 578	Originally Posted by saintsmissile is as much to blame as is Freddie T. Listen, my hat's off to FT. He's an aging player and wouldn't start on almost any team in the league. However, he gutted it out and gave his all on every play. Yeah, he's lost a step, but he played his heart out. Now, age is a legitimate excuse. What is Bullocks excuse? To me, he has to shoulder much of the blame last year. He played absolutely terribly, if you ask me. You watch the film and he was always out of position, missed easy tackles and made ZERO plays from his S position. To me, this is a make or break year for him as a Saint. If KK takes his job, I envision Bullocks going somewhere else next season via trade or cut. bro, watch the film, most of bullock's plays he's up in run support.

06-12-2007, 08:36 AM	#18
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Man, did you watch any of the games last season? Freddie "DOUBLE MOVE" Thomas got beat on some of the most simple stop and go plays I've ever seen. Look, screw sentimental feelings, we're trying to win a CHAMPIONSHIP here and with Freddie T. starting back there it won't happen. I like Freddie, it's not personal, but after last year he's nothing more than a nickle or dime back period, and I'm leaning to more of a dime back, and backup to the nickle. Freddie was a good player in his day, but at some point it comes to an end, and I think his is rapidly approaching. With that being said my best memory of Fred goes back a few years, we were playing the Minnesota Vikings and they put Freddie T. on the big bad Randy Moss, and the result: Moss one (1) catch for six (6) yards. That was just incredible, amazing, but that was then and this is now, nothing personal, if Freddie was to return to those days, I'll be right there cheering him on, but I doubt it very much.
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06-11-2007, 11:46 AM	#14
Teechauze Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Loreauville, LA Posts: 19	I can't help but try to take up for Freddie T. He gave up some big plays last year, and maybe it's time for him to hang it up, but in seasons past he was always a contributer. What he lacked in atheletism he always made up for with heart. And didn't he lead the team in interceptions one year? He has always had a great attitude. I just hate to see him go out like this.

06-11-2007, 12:50 PM	#15
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	I seriously see the writing on the wall... I think he's done. We have some interesting talent and I think its time we cut our losts. He had 2 maybe 3 good seasons with us and been in the NFL a lot of years, he's losing a step a second now.

06-13-2007, 02:25 PM	#19
D24pick 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 578	Originally Posted by saintsmissile so Bullocks was in run support. That doesn't say much for him. He missed more tackles than anyone on the team. Listen, an NFL safety in today's game has to tackle AND cover. In my opinion, Bullocks doesn't excel in either. He has good measurables and poor instincts ala Sedrick Hodge. stop covering for fred thomas so much. im not gonna explain it to ya all over again, blacksaint's post sums it all up. he's not as good as he was anymore dude. people like fred thom,as so they blaim it all on bullocks, cause they witnessed him dropping a few int's. most of bullocks plays was where he was up in the box man. we play a cover 1 man-to-man, with one safety up top, which was stout or bellamy. with their lack of atheleticsm, they got beat as well as thomas play after play. bullocks may have dropped some picks, but when he was up top in coverage, he got beat very little on big plays. face it, thomas was the one getting beat yo. if bullocks misses so many tackles he wouldn't be so high up in the tackles categoryy now would he? he made stops, you're just saying that because of the bears game, and that pretty t.o. block in the dallas game. other than those obvious plays bullocks stood his ground pretty well for a 2nd year man
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