Did the Niners prevent the Saints from being better in the 80's and 90's

SaintsFanInLA · 06-12-2007, 03:10 PM

Growing up and watching the Saints, I could remember hearing people say we have one of the hardest divisions in football with the Rams and the 49ers. But no one ever points out that to be the best, you have to beat the best, that's what it takes to become a Champion. I just hate it when I hear that people say teams won, because certain teams had an easier road than others. Its all about the preparation that comes in before the games and in the end, delivering when the time counts. Nonetheless, its just a way of making excuses for our shortcomings.
Living out here in Los Angeles, I heard it time and time earlier this year, Saints had an easy schedule, or the season was set up by the NFL. No one credited them for being a good team. We had a great year last year and I could almost feel that during the 80s and 90s, we had brief flashes of greatness. But when it came down to it, we didn't deliver. Not because of the 49ers, Cowboys, Redskins, but of the New Orleans Saints. So until our boys in Black and Gold hold the Lombardi over their heads, we'll keep making excuses. Who Dat Nation 4 Ever.

BlueDevil1978 · 06-12-2007, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

All the 49ers did was prevent us from winning some division titles by default. We still failed to capitalize on our own playoff chances, which had nothing to do with the 49ers, other than where we seeded.

I love those games during the season where we gave the Niners some tough runs. It is too bad we fell apart in that Eagles post season game.

I'll take the blame for that Eagles snafu in the dome. I was concentrating so hard to make sure the boys would win. They were up at half-time, so I got up to go to the bathroom / concession stand. Bad mistake - I shouldn't have broken my concentration. By the time I got back to my seat in the lower plaza, Hebert had already thrown those interceptions! I'm sorry everyone.

But seriously, I agree -- there were some big-time battles back then with the Niners. But the Niners only prevented us from winning the West outright. It was our failure to put the game away or to capitalize when it counted that kept us from moving on in the playoffs.

BlueDevil1978 · 06-12-2007, 09:35 PM

After a few more after thoughts, I'll say this, too: No matter what NFC division the 80's - 90's Saints would have been in back in those days, it would have been difficult, especially with their propensity to not put the game away or to capitalize when it counted and with the strength of the NFC back then.

In actuallity, the only time that I've ever seen a true lack of competition in a division actually keep a bad team dominant is going on right now: the NFC North. The Bears are a joke and have my vote as the worst NFL/NFC champion ever.

hagan714 · 06-13-2007, 06:37 AM

We had a defense but the offense was so-so. That was our problem plus you had mora and his love affair with old cotton top, what was his name? the OC. Carl Smith? I still say it was a little too homo to make it to the promise land. Still have not forgiving Mora for gutting the defensive coaching staff for him. Our loose was the Panthers gain. Coaches and players.
cut it off here i have to go bang my head against wall one more time

06-12-2007, 09:29 PM	#12
BlueDevil1978 Linebacker Forever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Picayune, MS Posts: 130	Originally Posted by lumm0x All the 49ers did was prevent us from winning some division titles by default. We still failed to capitalize on our own playoff chances, which had nothing to do with the 49ers, other than where we seeded. I love those games during the season where we gave the Niners some tough runs. It is too bad we fell apart in that Eagles post season game. I'll take the blame for that Eagles snafu in the dome. I was concentrating so hard to make sure the boys would win. They were up at half-time, so I got up to go to the bathroom / concession stand. Bad mistake - I shouldn't have broken my concentration. By the time I got back to my seat in the lower plaza, Hebert had already thrown those interceptions! I'm sorry everyone. But seriously, I agree -- there were some big-time battles back then with the Niners. But the Niners only prevented us from winning the West outright. It was our failure to put the game away or to capitalize when it counted that kept us from moving on in the playoffs.
	/"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - Billy Ed Hatfield (Walton & Johnson) / Last edited by BlueDevil1978; 06-12-2007 at 09:35 PM..

06-12-2007, 09:35 PM	#13
BlueDevil1978 Linebacker Forever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Picayune, MS Posts: 130	After a few more after thoughts, I'll say this, too: No matter what NFC division the 80's - 90's Saints would have been in back in those days, it would have been difficult, especially with their propensity to not put the game away or to capitalize when it counted and with the strength of the NFC back then. In actuallity, the only time that I've ever seen a true lack of competition in a division actually keep a bad team dominant is going on right now: the NFC North. The Bears are a joke and have my vote as the worst NFL/NFC champion ever.
	/"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" - Billy Ed Hatfield (Walton & Johnson) /

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06-12-2007, 03:10 PM	#11
SaintsFanInLA Registered Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LA/OC Area Posts: 54	Growing up and watching the Saints, I could remember hearing people say we have one of the hardest divisions in football with the Rams and the 49ers. But no one ever points out that to be the best, you have to beat the best, that's what it takes to become a Champion. I just hate it when I hear that people say teams won, because certain teams had an easier road than others. Its all about the preparation that comes in before the games and in the end, delivering when the time counts. Nonetheless, its just a way of making excuses for our shortcomings. Living out here in Los Angeles, I heard it time and time earlier this year, Saints had an easy schedule, or the season was set up by the NFL. No one credited them for being a good team. We had a great year last year and I could almost feel that during the 80s and 90s, we had brief flashes of greatness. But when it came down to it, we didn't deliver. Not because of the 49ers, Cowboys, Redskins, but of the New Orleans Saints. So until our boys in Black and Gold hold the Lombardi over their heads, we'll keep making excuses. Who Dat Nation 4 Ever.

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06-13-2007, 06:37 AM	#14
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	We had a defense but the offense was so-so. That was our problem plus you had mora and his love affair with old cotton top, what was his name? the OC. Carl Smith? I still say it was a little too homo to make it to the promise land. Still have not forgiving Mora for gutting the defensive coaching staff for him. Our loose was the Panthers gain. Coaches and players. cut it off here i have to go bang my head against wall one more time