Saints vs Fourty Niners!!!

CHACHING · 06-24-2007, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by BlueDevil1978

We've lost more games to the 9ers than any other team.

New Orleans Saints record against

Team: San Francisco 49ers
W 21
L 45
T 2
Percent 0.309

I have greviously suffered through most of the losses - the ones I didn't suffer thru, I either blocked the game out from my memory or the game was blacked out on TV.

Either way, we owe them a few.

This is the best post of the thread..
We owe them bigtime and I want some payback..
Me and the wife will be there cheering the loudest...
(ching)

mighty12 · 06-24-2007, 05:13 PM

I am sooooooo excited about this game. We have family coming in to S.F. to be there. It will be a grand ole time! Everyone in Black and Gold. I would like to see it as fan advantage for the Saints!

shedevilang · 06-24-2007, 11:06 PM

I can't wait for this game either We so owe them lol

hagan714 · 06-25-2007, 08:03 AM

love seeing the Niners getting 3 pages of hate. still

CHACHING · 06-25-2007, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

love seeing the Niners getting 3 pages of hate. still

3 pages isn't enough...
I'll hate them till we win a ring.....

Linkmaster · 07-11-2007, 12:42 PM

The 49ers are generating a lot of buzz going into this season. This should be a good matchup.

Linkmaster · 07-11-2007, 12:47 PM

The 49ers may not live up to their pre-season hype. This article gives a solid breakdown of what might be on tap for 2007:

The Niners
http://www.sportsmemo.com/handicappers/ted/blog/2476/

There seems to be a fair bit of hype among the handicapping community surrounding the San Francisco 49ers this year. The Niners are a trendy pick as a ‘surprise’ team for the 2007 campaign, understandably so. After all, San Francisco improved from the worst team in the league in ‘05 into a competitive 7-9 ballclub last year. Then, management opened up their checkbooks in the offseason, spending $40 million in guaranteed money for a quartet of new defensive starters. But before we get caught up in the hype surrounding San Francisco, let’s remember that this team still has a lot to prove.

The Niners won both meetings against division champs Seattle last year, and upset Denver at Invesco Field to eliminate the Broncos from playoff contention in Week 17. Their other four victories came against the Rams, Raiders, Vikings and Lions, not exactly a murderers row of opponents. And they lost every other game against a playoff caliber foe by double digit margins: 38-24 to the Eagles, 48-19 to the Chargers, 34-10 to the Saints and 41-10 to the Bears. This team was a long way from being capable of handling quality foes when the season ended last January.

San Francisco has two new coordinators. Greg Manusky, former Chargers LB coach, takes over as defensive coordinator, after Billy Davis was fired in the offseason. The Niners finished 26th in the NFL in total defense last year; 32nd in points allowed, so there’s a lot of work to be done. Former offensive coordinator Norv Turner left for the Chargers head coaching job. He will be replaced by Jim Hostler, their QB coach from last year. Hostler is the fifth offensive coordinator in the last five years for San Francisco – this team has very little continuity in that regard.

I’m not sold on former #1 pick Alex Smith developing into an elite level quarterback. In his career, Smith has 17 touchdown passes and 27 interceptions. His receiving corps is in a state of flux, with major question marks surrounding offseason pickups Darrell Jackson (from Seattle) and Ashley Lelie (from Atlanta), both of whom have underperformed in recent seasons. Last year’s #1 pick, TE Vernon Davis is coming off a season ending injury. There is little quality depth behind the starters in the receiving corps. San Fran had the 29th ranked passing game last year, and I’m not convinced it’s going to be much better this time around.

San Fran has question marks all over their offensive line. All five line positions have a major question coming into the season. Can Jonas Jennings get healthy and play effectively following offseason shoulder surgury? Can Eric Heitmann recover from a broken leg? Can Larry Allen get another productive year out of his aging body? Can first rounder Joe Staley from Central Michigan contribute as a starter from Day 1? Can Frank Gore solve his fumbling problems running behind this line? The Niners were the #6 rushing team in the NFL last year, but this offensive line makes me think that it’ll be tough for San Fran to match that production in ’07.

The Niners also have loads of question marks on the front seven defensively. They’ve shifted to a 3-4 defense, drafting LB Patrick Willis out of Ole Miss as an impact defender. San Francisco also expects major contributions from last year’s rookie star, Manny Lawson and free agent linebacker Tully Banta Cain from New England. But this defensive line looks very weak on paper, and the new schemes are going to take time before they are effective.

You have to like what San Francisco did to shore up their secondary in the offseason. They spent big bucks on free agent CB Nate Clements from Buffalo and S Michael Lewis from Philadelphia. Those two join a stellar cornerback group including pro bowler Nate Harris and promising youngster Shawntae Spencer. The talent level here is stellar, but the 49ers are going to need a pass rush to keep their secondary from getting burned, a pass rush that I’m not sure they’ll get on a consistent basis.

The 49ers played six games against other playoff teams last year, losing all four non-division games, but beating Seattle twice. This year, their division is tougher – Seattle is healthy and hungry; Arizona is clearly on the rise; and St Louis has to be considered at least a Wild Card contender with the best offense in the division. In ’07, the Niners must face the tough teams from the NFC North, including a trip to Pittsburgh and visits from the Bengals and Ravens. They also travel to Carolina and Atlanta from the NFC South, with a visit from the Saints. While I don’t expect the Niners to slide downwards in the standings, this team, on paper, has the look of the 7-9 team that they were last year….

Nemesis · 07-11-2007, 01:01 PM

Nice work, Link. The Whiners are one of those sneaky teams we don't want to overlook after a big win. SF is a great town. I was there after the quake, during the SF-Denver SB. We also went up to SC, and enjoyed the coast. Have a great time, fellas

UK_WhoDat · 07-14-2007, 10:21 PM

I am riled already and can't wait to see the 49ers get pummeled. All that grief when the Saints lost close games, time after time after time. Geaux Saints!

BlueDevil1978 · 07-14-2007, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

love seeing the Niners getting 3 pages of hate. still

Make that 4 pages of 49er hate

I don't have as much hate for the 49ers (not like my current hate for the chump Bears - WORST NFC CHAMPION IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL), mainly because it has always been competitive, meaningful games with our boys. In fact, I dare say that we gave them their best competition twice a year during those SB runs with Walsh & Seifert.

But just because there's not much hate there doesn't mean I haven't suffered or forgetten:

49er Coaches / Records Against Saints Team

Jack Christiansen 1963 - 1967
W L T P-F P-A
1 0 0 27 13
Seasons: 1
Total Games 1
Win % 100%
Points per game - Off 27.0
Points per game - Def 13.0

Dick Nolan 1968 - 1975
W L T P-F P-A
8 3 2 364 235
Seasons: 7
Total Games 13
Win % 62%
Points per game - Off 28.0
Points per game - Def 18.1

Monte Clark 1976
W L T P-F P-A
2 0 0 60 10
Seasons: 1
Total Games 2
Win % 100%
Points per game - Off 30.0
Points per game - Def 5.0

Ken Meyer 1977
W L T P-F P-A
2 0 0 30 24
Seasons: 1
Total Games 2
Win % 100%
Points per game - Off 15.0
Points per game - Def 12.0

Pete* McCulley 1978
W L T P-F P-A
0 1 0 7 14
Seasons: 0.5
Total Games 1
Win % 0%
Points per game - Off 7.0
Points per game - Def 14.0

Fred* O’Connor 1978
W L T P-F P-A
0 1 0 13 24
Seasons: 0.5
Total Games 1
Win % 0%
Points per game - Off 13.0
Points per game - Def 24.0

Bill Walsh 1979 - 1988
W L T P-F P-A
13 6 0 466 363
Seasons: 10
Total Games 19
Win % 68%
Points per game - Off 24.5
Points per game - Def 19.1

George Seifert 1989 - 1996
W L T P-F P-A
12 4 0 352 233
Seasons: 8
Total Games 16
Win % 75%
Points per game - Off 22.0
Points per game - Def 14.6

Steve Mariucci 1997 - 2002
W L T P-F P-A
7 4 0 287 196
Seasons: 6
Total Games 11
Win % 64%
Points per game - Off 26.1
Points per game - Def 17.8

Dennis Erickson 2003 - 2004
W L T P-F P-A
0 1 0 27 30
Seasons: 1
Total Games 1
Win % 0%
Points per game - Off 27.0
Points per game - Def 30.0

Mike Nolan 2005 - Present
W L T P-F P-A
0 1 0 10 34
Seasons: 1
Total Games 1
Win % 0%
Points per game - Off 10.0
Points per game - Def 34.0

06-24-2007, 12:11 PM	#21
CHACHING 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Golden State Posts: 830	Originally Posted by BlueDevil1978 We've lost more games to the 9ers than any other team. New Orleans Saints record against Team: San Francisco 49ers W 21 L 45 T 2 Percent 0.309 I have greviously suffered through most of the losses - the ones I didn't suffer thru, I either blocked the game out from my memory or the game was blacked out on TV. Either way, we owe them a few. This is the best post of the thread.. We owe them bigtime and I want some payback.. Me and the wife will be there cheering the loudest... (ching)

06-25-2007, 12:52 PM	#25
CHACHING 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Golden State Posts: 830	Originally Posted by hagan714 love seeing the Niners getting 3 pages of hate. still 3 pages isn't enough... I'll hate them till we win a ring.....

07-11-2007, 12:42 PM	#26
Linkmaster Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	The 49ers are generating a lot of buzz going into this season. This should be a good matchup.
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07-11-2007, 12:47 PM	#27
Linkmaster Rookie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8	The 49ers may not live up to their pre-season hype. This article gives a solid breakdown of what might be on tap for 2007: The Niners http://www.sportsmemo.com/handicappers/ted/blog/2476/ There seems to be a fair bit of hype among the handicapping community surrounding the San Francisco 49ers this year. The Niners are a trendy pick as a ‘surprise’ team for the 2007 campaign, understandably so. After all, San Francisco improved from the worst team in the league in ‘05 into a competitive 7-9 ballclub last year. Then, management opened up their checkbooks in the offseason, spending $40 million in guaranteed money for a quartet of new defensive starters. But before we get caught up in the hype surrounding San Francisco, let’s remember that this team still has a lot to prove. The Niners won both meetings against division champs Seattle last year, and upset Denver at Invesco Field to eliminate the Broncos from playoff contention in Week 17. Their other four victories came against the Rams, Raiders, Vikings and Lions, not exactly a murderers row of opponents. And they lost every other game against a playoff caliber foe by double digit margins: 38-24 to the Eagles, 48-19 to the Chargers, 34-10 to the Saints and 41-10 to the Bears. This team was a long way from being capable of handling quality foes when the season ended last January. San Francisco has two new coordinators. Greg Manusky, former Chargers LB coach, takes over as defensive coordinator, after Billy Davis was fired in the offseason. The Niners finished 26th in the NFL in total defense last year; 32nd in points allowed, so there’s a lot of work to be done. Former offensive coordinator Norv Turner left for the Chargers head coaching job. He will be replaced by Jim Hostler, their QB coach from last year. Hostler is the fifth offensive coordinator in the last five years for San Francisco – this team has very little continuity in that regard. I’m not sold on former #1 pick Alex Smith developing into an elite level quarterback. In his career, Smith has 17 touchdown passes and 27 interceptions. His receiving corps is in a state of flux, with major question marks surrounding offseason pickups Darrell Jackson (from Seattle) and Ashley Lelie (from Atlanta), both of whom have underperformed in recent seasons. Last year’s #1 pick, TE Vernon Davis is coming off a season ending injury. There is little quality depth behind the starters in the receiving corps. San Fran had the 29th ranked passing game last year, and I’m not convinced it’s going to be much better this time around. San Fran has question marks all over their offensive line. All five line positions have a major question coming into the season. Can Jonas Jennings get healthy and play effectively following offseason shoulder surgury? Can Eric Heitmann recover from a broken leg? Can Larry Allen get another productive year out of his aging body? Can first rounder Joe Staley from Central Michigan contribute as a starter from Day 1? Can Frank Gore solve his fumbling problems running behind this line? The Niners were the #6 rushing team in the NFL last year, but this offensive line makes me think that it’ll be tough for San Fran to match that production in ’07. The Niners also have loads of question marks on the front seven defensively. They’ve shifted to a 3-4 defense, drafting LB Patrick Willis out of Ole Miss as an impact defender. San Francisco also expects major contributions from last year’s rookie star, Manny Lawson and free agent linebacker Tully Banta Cain from New England. But this defensive line looks very weak on paper, and the new schemes are going to take time before they are effective. You have to like what San Francisco did to shore up their secondary in the offseason. They spent big bucks on free agent CB Nate Clements from Buffalo and S Michael Lewis from Philadelphia. Those two join a stellar cornerback group including pro bowler Nate Harris and promising youngster Shawntae Spencer. The talent level here is stellar, but the 49ers are going to need a pass rush to keep their secondary from getting burned, a pass rush that I’m not sure they’ll get on a consistent basis. The 49ers played six games against other playoff teams last year, losing all four non-division games, but beating Seattle twice. This year, their division is tougher – Seattle is healthy and hungry; Arizona is clearly on the rise; and St Louis has to be considered at least a Wild Card contender with the best offense in the division. In ’07, the Niners must face the tough teams from the NFC North, including a trip to Pittsburgh and visits from the Bengals and Ravens. They also travel to Carolina and Atlanta from the NFC South, with a visit from the Saints. While I don’t expect the Niners to slide downwards in the standings, this team, on paper, has the look of the 7-9 team that they were last year….
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07-14-2007, 10:54 PM	#30
BlueDevil1978 Linebacker Forever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Picayune, MS Posts: 130	Originally Posted by hagan714 love seeing the Niners getting 3 pages of hate. still Make that 4 pages of 49er hate I don't have as much hate for the 49ers (not like my current hate for the chump Bears - WORST NFC CHAMPION IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL), mainly because it has always been competitive, meaningful games with our boys. In fact, I dare say that we gave them their best competition twice a year during those SB runs with Walsh & Seifert. But just because there's not much hate there doesn't mean I haven't suffered or forgetten: 49er Coaches / Records Against Saints Team Jack Christiansen 1963 - 1967 W L T P-F P-A 1 0 0 27 13 Seasons: 1 Total Games 1 Win % 100% Points per game - Off 27.0 Points per game - Def 13.0 Dick Nolan 1968 - 1975 W L T P-F P-A 8 3 2 364 235 Seasons: 7 Total Games 13 Win % 62% Points per game - Off 28.0 Points per game - Def 18.1 Monte Clark 1976 W L T P-F P-A 2 0 0 60 10 Seasons: 1 Total Games 2 Win % 100% Points per game - Off 30.0 Points per game - Def 5.0 Ken Meyer 1977 W L T P-F P-A 2 0 0 30 24 Seasons: 1 Total Games 2 Win % 100% Points per game - Off 15.0 Points per game - Def 12.0 Pete* McCulley 1978 W L T P-F P-A 0 1 0 7 14 Seasons: 0.5 Total Games 1 Win % 0% Points per game - Off 7.0 Points per game - Def 14.0 Fred* O’Connor 1978 W L T P-F P-A 0 1 0 13 24 Seasons: 0.5 Total Games 1 Win % 0% Points per game - Off 13.0 Points per game - Def 24.0 Bill Walsh 1979 - 1988 W L T P-F P-A 13 6 0 466 363 Seasons: 10 Total Games 19 Win % 68% Points per game - Off 24.5 Points per game - Def 19.1 George Seifert 1989 - 1996 W L T P-F P-A 12 4 0 352 233 Seasons: 8 Total Games 16 Win % 75% Points per game - Off 22.0 Points per game - Def 14.6 Steve Mariucci 1997 - 2002 W L T P-F P-A 7 4 0 287 196 Seasons: 6 Total Games 11 Win % 64% Points per game - Off 26.1 Points per game - Def 17.8 Dennis Erickson 2003 - 2004 W L T P-F P-A 0 1 0 27 30 Seasons: 1 Total Games 1 Win % 0% Points per game - Off 27.0 Points per game - Def 30.0 Mike Nolan 2005 - Present W L T P-F P-A 0 1 0 10 34 Seasons: 1 Total Games 1 Win % 0% Points per game - Off 10.0 Points per game - Def 34.0
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mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	I am sooooooo excited about this game. We have family coming in to S.F. to be there. It will be a grand ole time! Everyone in Black and Gold. I would like to see it as fan advantage for the Saints!

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Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Nice work, Link. The Whiners are one of those sneaky teams we don't want to overlook after a big win. SF is a great town. I was there after the quake, during the SF-Denver SB. We also went up to SC, and enjoyed the coast. Have a great time, fellas

07-14-2007, 10:21 PM	#29
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,865	I am riled already and can't wait to see the 49ers get pummeled. All that grief when the Saints lost close games, time after time after time. Geaux Saints!