If Deuce gets over 10,000 yards, is he HOF material

mighty12 · 06-21-2007, 08:19 AM

I think he will be in the HOF, but he will not retire as a Saint. I would hate to see him go, but in 3-4 years when contracts are updated I don't see the organization shelling out 75% of our cap for the backfield(DEUCE, BREES, BUSH)

SapperSaint · 06-21-2007, 09:39 AM

Could he get there? Sure.

Will he get there? I doubt it, he is one Saint I would love to see in the HOF.

On a side note....

Good Lord can you just imagine what it would have been like if Barry didn't retire? I don't care what anyone says Barry is the greatest RB of all time, and I loved "Sweetness".

papz · 06-21-2007, 09:45 AM

I share that sentiment Sapper... absolutely the best running back of all time in my book.

saintswhodi · 06-21-2007, 10:24 AM

I third that.

lumm0x · 06-21-2007, 07:29 PM

Pretty much echo everything Sapper stated.

SapperSaint · 06-21-2007, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by saintsmissile

I relate Deuce to Eddie George. Similar type players. I think if Deuce has the same type numbers George does, maybe. However, I think if Deuce can win a SB it will give him a better chance. If he doesn't, it'll be harder for him.

I see what you are saying.

Deuces' only negative that I see, is his injury years. If the Saints have a good two/three year push to the SB, and we win at least one, I feel he has a really good chance. Deuce IS a prime RB, in my book. If not for injuries I feel sure he would have an extra 2,000 yrds on his total right now.

I think the two back offense will only keep him in the NFL that much longer. He should stay healthier and get stronger as the years go by. At least for four or five more years.

WVSaint · 06-21-2007, 04:25 PM

Scotty when you say "It'll be interesting to see what happens with Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis." I hope you're not implying they're not gonna make it in.

I think without question those two easily make it in.

ScottyRo · 06-21-2007, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by WVSaint

Scotty when you say "It'll be interesting to see what happens with Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis." I hope you're not implying they're not gonna make it in.

I think without question those two easily make it in.

Well, I think Martin is a lock and though Bettis probably is to, I never have really thought of him an HOF'er. Overall, I generally think that there are at least three components to getting in the HOF: 1) Stats, 2) Accomplishments (Pro Bowls, Championships), and 3) I think hall of fame when I think of the player.

Bettis has two of the three in good shape so he's likely in, but I just have never thought of him like he's a potential HOF'er.

The very same may be the way it happens for Deuce. He may get the first 2, but playing in NO may not get him the recognition he needs for HOF.

WVSaint · 06-21-2007, 08:58 PM

For the most part I think Bettis was a team player, he had no problem taking a back seat and a reduced role in his last season at Pittsburgh and did what he needed to do to lead that team. Finishing his career in the top 5 on the ground at RB, I would think would be plenty for him to get in. Same with Martin. Only Bettis got the ring, I'd think if any were questionable of getting in (and I dont) I would guess it were Martin.

06-21-2007, 03:01 PM	#6
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Originally Posted by saintsmissile I relate Deuce to Eddie George. Similar type players. I think if Deuce has the same type numbers George does, maybe. However, I think if Deuce can win a SB it will give him a better chance. If he doesn't, it'll be harder for him. I see what you are saying. Deuces' only negative that I see, is his injury years. If the Saints have a good two/three year push to the SB, and we win at least one, I feel he has a really good chance. Deuce IS a prime RB, in my book. If not for injuries I feel sure he would have an extra 2,000 yrds on his total right now. I think the two back offense will only keep him in the NFL that much longer. He should stay healthier and get stronger as the years go by. At least for four or five more years.
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06-21-2007, 08:29 PM	#8
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Originally Posted by WVSaint Scotty when you say "It'll be interesting to see what happens with Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis." I hope you're not implying they're not gonna make it in. I think without question those two easily make it in. Well, I think Martin is a lock and though Bettis probably is to, I never have really thought of him an HOF'er. Overall, I generally think that there are at least three components to getting in the HOF: 1) Stats, 2) Accomplishments (Pro Bowls, Championships), and 3) I think hall of fame when I think of the player. Bettis has two of the three in good shape so he's likely in, but I just have never thought of him like he's a potential HOF'er. The very same may be the way it happens for Deuce. He may get the first 2, but playing in NO may not get him the recognition he needs for HOF.

06-21-2007, 08:19 AM	#1
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	I think he will be in the HOF, but he will not retire as a Saint. I would hate to see him go, but in 3-4 years when contracts are updated I don't see the organization shelling out 75% of our cap for the backfield(DEUCE, BREES, BUSH)

06-21-2007, 09:39 AM	#2
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Could he get there? Sure. Will he get there? I doubt it, he is one Saint I would love to see in the HOF. On a side note.... Good Lord can you just imagine what it would have been like if Barry didn't retire? I don't care what anyone says Barry is the greatest RB of all time, and I loved "Sweetness".

06-21-2007, 09:45 AM	#3
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,799	I share that sentiment Sapper... absolutely the best running back of all time in my book.

06-21-2007, 10:24 AM	#4
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I third that.

06-21-2007, 07:29 PM	#5
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Pretty much echo everything Sapper stated.

06-21-2007, 04:25 PM	#7
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Scotty when you say "It'll be interesting to see what happens with Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis." I hope you're not implying they're not gonna make it in. I think without question those two easily make it in.

06-21-2007, 08:58 PM	#9
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	For the most part I think Bettis was a team player, he had no problem taking a back seat and a reduced role in his last season at Pittsburgh and did what he needed to do to lead that team. Finishing his career in the top 5 on the ground at RB, I would think would be plenty for him to get in. Same with Martin. Only Bettis got the ring, I'd think if any were questionable of getting in (and I dont) I would guess it were Martin.