Isn't that a bit contradicting?

The only thing that held Calvin Johnson to 13 yards was Reggie Ball being a crappy quarterback.

It doesn't matter when he flunked out really. Maybe there was procedures for him to attempt to get back in school, or an attempt to see if he could do summer school to make up the grades. He and his agent know he would lose money going in the supplemental as opposed to the regular draft. Millions of dollars. So it had to be a last resprt. What matters is when he declared for the supplemental, and going from that point. But I still think there's no way he could have been able to do a "combine type" ramp up before this workout, unlike players who did work out at the combine. I'd take my chances with him under Payton. I haven't seen anything that says he isn't a Payton kind of guy on the field.

This guy didn't apply himself to his grades, didn't apply himself to working out and being ready to impress the scouts. Am I suppose to believe he is going to apply himself each and every week to be a team player and win games for us??? The only way I see the Saints getting him is to give a first rounder next year... someone before us in the second will snag him perhpas and I think even a second maybe to much to give up. 3rd???

Obviously he did apply himself to his grades, cause, ya know, he would have been a senior. Maybe he had some personal issues or maybe school just wasn't for him. Not every football player, and surprisingly few, are Rhodes scholars or academic all americans. He is a good football player and hasn't gotten in trouble off the field.

As far as applying himself to work out, Mike Mamula applied himself to work out. How'd that do for him? Colston didn't have the most impressive workouts either and he was projected as a TE in the NFL, how'd that work out. Again, work outs are a sample to look at, but what you do on the field is far more impressive. The kid can obviously play.

Last, we are not gonna give up a first rounder for him. If that's what it takes, we don't get him. But obviously if you feel SOMEONE will give up a second for him, then SOMEONE must think he can play in the league cause supplemental picks usually do not garner 2nd rounders.

Hey I work out to but its not working for me to get into the NFL. There are a lot of teams looking at him, teams look at everyone just to see now-a-days. Even the Pats of stirred some interest. Realistically where we sit/projected draft position isn't that great, giving up a 1 or 2 is to much. Will another team offer that??? I'd say some teams may give up a 3rd for him at best and that will still leave us out. The question you have to ask yourself... "is he worth a first or second"?

I'd give up a second, but not a first. If we can't get him for a second, then more power to whomever drafts him.