Rumor: Tank Johnson to the Saints

WillMacKenzie · 07-04-2007, 01:44 AM

I think it's all a bunch of B.S.

I'm waiting for the NFL to show up at MY door and suspend me for 8 games. Looks like Roger Goodell's into casting first stones. I can see if he steps on a man's face or commits murder, or you know, puts a late hit on someone which paralyzes them.

I probably have unregistered guns in my home that were passed down to me by my grandpa and stuff. I also have pitbulls in my house, 2 - which lovingly protect my home and siblings. Should I lose my job? Should the media come to my house and blow it all out of proportion, should I be the victim of crazy witch hunts, or should we go follow Roger Goodell around for a few weeks with a camera to see if he goes over the speed limit, if he has any guns, any dogs, or if he ever has a drink. B.S.

Nemesis · 07-04-2007, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I think it's all a bunch of B.S.

I'm waiting for the NFL to show up at MY door and suspend me for 8 games. Looks like Roger Goodell's into casting first stones. I can see if he steps on a man's face or commits murder, or you know, puts a late hit on someone which paralyzes them.

I probably have unregistered guns in my home that were passed down to me by my grandpa and stuff. I also have pitbulls in my house, 2 - which lovingly protect my home and siblings. Should I lose my job? Should the media come to my house and blow it all out of proportion, should I be the victim of crazy witch hunts, or should we go follow Roger Goodell around for a few weeks with a camera to see if he goes over the speed limit, if he has any guns, any dogs, or if he ever has a drink. B.S.

If La ever bothers to make having unregistered guns in your home a crime, then many may find themselves in court.

blacksaint · 07-04-2007, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I think it's all a bunch of B.S.

I'm waiting for the NFL to show up at MY door and suspend me for 8 games. Looks like Roger Goodell's into casting first stones. I can see if he steps on a man's face or commits murder, or you know, puts a late hit on someone which paralyzes them.

I probably have unregistered guns in my home that were passed down to me by my grandpa and stuff. I also have pitbulls in my house, 2 - which lovingly protect my home and siblings. Should I lose my job? Should the media come to my house and blow it all out of proportion, should I be the victim of crazy witch hunts, or should we go follow Roger Goodell around for a few weeks with a camera to see if he goes over the speed limit, if he has any guns, any dogs, or if he ever has a drink. B.S.

Do you play in the NFL? Is every move you make in your private life made public and directly reflects your employer? Did you sign a contract that exclusively says that you are the property of your employer as long as you are employed by said employer? Do you get paid MILLIONS of dollars to do something you did and dreamed of ever sense you were a kid? If the answer is yes, than Roger Goodall can do it to you to. Remember, the Players and the Union backed him up on this. And also remember this is a BILLION dollar business here, and a lot of people get real rich from it. The Commish, the Owners, the Union and it's Players are going to do everything in their power to keep it that way, period.

WillMacKenzie · 07-04-2007, 02:53 AM

Originally Posted by blacksaint

Do you play in the NFL? Is every move you make in your private life made public and directly reflects your employer? Did you sign a contract that exclusively says that you are the property of your employer as long as you are employed by said employer? Do you get paid MILLIONS of dollars to do something you did and dreamed of ever sense you were a kid? If the answer is yes, than Roger Goodall can do it to you to. Remember, the Players and the Union backed him up on this. And also remember this is a BILLION dollar business here, and a lot of people get real rich from it. The Commish, the Owners, the Union and it's Players are going to do everything in their power to keep it that way, period.

Have you ever done 5 mph over the speed limit? Have you ever once drank an alcoholic beverage? Have you ever driven a day with an expired inspection sticker? Have you ever driven without a seatbelt? Have you ever changed lanes without your blinker? Have you ever accidentally passed a redlight? Have you ever had sex out of wedlock? Have you ever spoken in class without raising your hand? Have you ever driven through a parking lot to avoid traffic?

And just like yours, my questions are pointless. I'm just saying Roger is hypocritical and out of control just a bit here. The only reason the "players" that make up the player's union are behind it is because they don't want Roger up their own buttholes with q-tip and a magnifying glass or else they'd get suspended for not agreeing with Goodell. Now listen to me when I say that I am finished with the checking of the bags conversation! And yes, I have signed a contract stating I'm another's property, and every move I make is made public and directly reflects my employer. Didn't think I did, did you?

blacksaint · 07-04-2007, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Have you ever done 5 mph over the speed limit? Have you ever once drank an alcoholic beverage? Have you ever driven a day with an expired inspection sticker? Have you ever driven without a seatbelt? Have you ever changed lanes without your blinker? Have you ever accidentally passed a redlight? Have you ever had sex out of wedlock? Have you ever spoken in class without raising your hand? Have you ever driven through a parking lot to avoid traffic?

And just like yours, my questions are pointless. I'm just saying Roger is hypocritical and out of control just a bit here. The only reason the "players" that make up the player's union are behind it is because they don't want Roger up their own buttholes with q-tip and a magnifying glass or else they'd get suspended for not agreeing with Goodell. Now listen to me when I say that I am finished with the checking of the bags conversation! And yes, I have signed a contract stating I'm another's property, and every move I make is made public and directly reflects my employer. Didn't think I did, did you?

Man what are you talking about? The Commish and the Union fight and disagree with 98% of everything. This is one of the few things they agree upon because it threatens their livelihood and nobody wants that, and last time I checked Goodall didn't go looking for anything it was dropped in his lap when he took over the position. And by the way, the Players that the Union represent just happens to be all the players in the league. This is not MLB, the Commish is not looking for anything, he's just dealing with it as it comes. If the Commish was "out for blood" and so evil, he wouldn't have allowed Tank (The

) Johnson to play in the Superbowl, you are a lil off basis with this one. One more thing, whoever property you are, It's nothing like the NFL, period.

Nemesis · 07-04-2007, 03:15 AM

The Bears' own site seems to concur that Tank was an above average DT. Perhaps he wasn't ready to be quided by those mentioned "good guys". I say if he isn't now, then that's that.

We took a chance on a rookie coach that was once stripped of his OC duties in NY. We brought in a QB recovering from major surgery to his throwing arm. Brees has been benched on a few occasions. Failure and being humbled. builds character.

Please save your "But they didn't commit a crime." rebuttles. We can take a cheap chance on Tank.

Euphoria · 07-04-2007, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

I think it's all a bunch of B.S.

I'm waiting for the NFL to show up at MY door and suspend me for 8 games. Looks like Roger Goodell's into casting first stones. I can see if he steps on a man's face or commits murder, or you know, puts a late hit on someone which paralyzes them.

I probably have unregistered guns in my home that were passed down to me by my grandpa and stuff. I also have pitbulls in my house, 2 - which lovingly protect my home and siblings. Should I lose my job? Should the media come to my house and blow it all out of proportion, should I be the victim of crazy witch hunts, or should we go follow Roger Goodell around for a few weeks with a camera to see if he goes over the speed limit, if he has any guns, any dogs, or if he ever has a drink. B.S.

He'll be there soon enough he just left my place... I got a 6 game suspension, good luck.

ScottyRo · 07-04-2007, 05:31 PM

Again, I think the point should be clear that multiple infractions are the issue, not "I've been arrested once in my life". The US Supreme Court ruled a few years back in such a way that would allow you to be arrested for just about anything including speeding. If this episode in AZ had been Tank's only issue, I wouldn't have a problem with him at all. But given his history, I just can't justify him since he seems willing to continue to put himself in bad positions.

I don't know what draft pick a team might be deducted if they sign him and he screws up again. I would have to think it'd have to be high enough to make other teams think twice about making the same mistake. That might be as high as a 4th or a 5th.

It may go higher than that since many teams would probably willingly have traded for him with a higher pick than that. That may influence Goodell's decision too.

Nemesis · 07-04-2007, 06:01 PM

I was able to process what your point was. I'm troubled by this attitude of Tank being arrested, while not charged, as being considered another infraction.

ScottyRo · 07-04-2007, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Nemesis

I was able to process what your point was. I'm troubled by this attitude of Tank being arrested, while not charged, as being considered another infraction.

"Johnson's blood alcohol level was .072, under the presumptive limit in Arizona of .08 percent, police Sgt. Andrew Duncan said Monday."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

Like I said, he was only under the limit by .008. Sure, he won't probably won't get convicted of DUI, but that's not because he didn't do anything wrong. He had been out of jail less time than he had been in jail and was (in my opinion) just plain lucky that he didn't test more than the .08 limit. To me, that shows that his attitude is one of complete disregard for trying to live a life that does not involve run ins with the law. Considering his history..that's an infraction. The Bears thought so too.

07-04-2007, 02:04 AM	#2
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I think it's all a bunch of B.S. I'm waiting for the NFL to show up at MY door and suspend me for 8 games. Looks like Roger Goodell's into casting first stones. I can see if he steps on a man's face or commits murder, or you know, puts a late hit on someone which paralyzes them. I probably have unregistered guns in my home that were passed down to me by my grandpa and stuff. I also have pitbulls in my house, 2 - which lovingly protect my home and siblings. Should I lose my job? Should the media come to my house and blow it all out of proportion, should I be the victim of crazy witch hunts, or should we go follow Roger Goodell around for a few weeks with a camera to see if he goes over the speed limit, if he has any guns, any dogs, or if he ever has a drink. B.S. If La ever bothers to make having unregistered guns in your home a crime, then many may find themselves in court.

07-04-2007, 02:10 AM	#3
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I think it's all a bunch of B.S. I'm waiting for the NFL to show up at MY door and suspend me for 8 games. Looks like Roger Goodell's into casting first stones. I can see if he steps on a man's face or commits murder, or you know, puts a late hit on someone which paralyzes them. I probably have unregistered guns in my home that were passed down to me by my grandpa and stuff. I also have pitbulls in my house, 2 - which lovingly protect my home and siblings. Should I lose my job? Should the media come to my house and blow it all out of proportion, should I be the victim of crazy witch hunts, or should we go follow Roger Goodell around for a few weeks with a camera to see if he goes over the speed limit, if he has any guns, any dogs, or if he ever has a drink. B.S. Do you play in the NFL? Is every move you make in your private life made public and directly reflects your employer? Did you sign a contract that exclusively says that you are the property of your employer as long as you are employed by said employer? Do you get paid MILLIONS of dollars to do something you did and dreamed of ever sense you were a kid? If the answer is yes, than Roger Goodall can do it to you to. Remember, the Players and the Union backed him up on this. And also remember this is a BILLION dollar business here, and a lot of people get real rich from it. The Commish, the Owners, the Union and it's Players are going to do everything in their power to keep it that way, period.
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07-04-2007, 02:53 AM	#4
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Originally Posted by blacksaint Do you play in the NFL? Is every move you make in your private life made public and directly reflects your employer? Did you sign a contract that exclusively says that you are the property of your employer as long as you are employed by said employer? Do you get paid MILLIONS of dollars to do something you did and dreamed of ever sense you were a kid? If the answer is yes, than Roger Goodall can do it to you to. Remember, the Players and the Union backed him up on this. And also remember this is a BILLION dollar business here, and a lot of people get real rich from it. The Commish, the Owners, the Union and it's Players are going to do everything in their power to keep it that way, period. Have you ever done 5 mph over the speed limit? Have you ever once drank an alcoholic beverage? Have you ever driven a day with an expired inspection sticker? Have you ever driven without a seatbelt? Have you ever changed lanes without your blinker? Have you ever accidentally passed a redlight? Have you ever had sex out of wedlock? Have you ever spoken in class without raising your hand? Have you ever driven through a parking lot to avoid traffic? And just like yours, my questions are pointless. I'm just saying Roger is hypocritical and out of control just a bit here. The only reason the "players" that make up the player's union are behind it is because they don't want Roger up their own buttholes with q-tip and a magnifying glass or else they'd get suspended for not agreeing with Goodell. Now listen to me when I say that I am finished with the checking of the bags conversation! And yes, I have signed a contract stating I'm another's property, and every move I make is made public and directly reflects my employer. Didn't think I did, did you?

07-04-2007, 03:13 AM	#5
blacksaint DARE TO ENTER Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Sweet Home, NEW ORLEANS, La. Posts: 1,154	Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie Have you ever done 5 mph over the speed limit? Have you ever once drank an alcoholic beverage? Have you ever driven a day with an expired inspection sticker? Have you ever driven without a seatbelt? Have you ever changed lanes without your blinker? Have you ever accidentally passed a redlight? Have you ever had sex out of wedlock? Have you ever spoken in class without raising your hand? Have you ever driven through a parking lot to avoid traffic? And just like yours, my questions are pointless. I'm just saying Roger is hypocritical and out of control just a bit here. The only reason the "players" that make up the player's union are behind it is because they don't want Roger up their own buttholes with q-tip and a magnifying glass or else they'd get suspended for not agreeing with Goodell. Now listen to me when I say that I am finished with the checking of the bags conversation! And yes, I have signed a contract stating I'm another's property, and every move I make is made public and directly reflects my employer. Didn't think I did, did you? Man what are you talking about? The Commish and the Union fight and disagree with 98% of everything. This is one of the few things they agree upon because it threatens their livelihood and nobody wants that, and last time I checked Goodall didn't go looking for anything it was dropped in his lap when he took over the position. And by the way, the Players that the Union represent just happens to be all the players in the league. This is not MLB, the Commish is not looking for anything, he's just dealing with it as it comes. If the Commish was "out for blood" and so evil, he wouldn't have allowed Tank (The) Johnson to play in the Superbowl, you are a lil off basis with this one. One more thing, whoever property you are, It's nothing like the NFL, period.
	saint4life (504)

07-04-2007, 03:15 AM	#6
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	The Bears' own site seems to concur that Tank was an above average DT. Perhaps he wasn't ready to be quided by those mentioned "good guys". I say if he isn't now, then that's that. We took a chance on a rookie coach that was once stripped of his OC duties in NY. We brought in a QB recovering from major surgery to his throwing arm. Brees has been benched on a few occasions. Failure and being humbled. builds character. Please save your "But they didn't commit a crime." rebuttles. We can take a cheap chance on Tank.
	Last edited by Nemesis; 07-04-2007 at 03:23 AM..

07-04-2007, 01:44 AM	#1
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	I think it's all a bunch of B.S. I'm waiting for the NFL to show up at MY door and suspend me for 8 games. Looks like Roger Goodell's into casting first stones. I can see if he steps on a man's face or commits murder, or you know, puts a late hit on someone which paralyzes them. I probably have unregistered guns in my home that were passed down to me by my grandpa and stuff. I also have pitbulls in my house, 2 - which lovingly protect my home and siblings. Should I lose my job? Should the media come to my house and blow it all out of proportion, should I be the victim of crazy witch hunts, or should we go follow Roger Goodell around for a few weeks with a camera to see if he goes over the speed limit, if he has any guns, any dogs, or if he ever has a drink. B.S.

07-04-2007, 04:11 PM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie I think it's all a bunch of B.S. I'm waiting for the NFL to show up at MY door and suspend me for 8 games. Looks like Roger Goodell's into casting first stones. I can see if he steps on a man's face or commits murder, or you know, puts a late hit on someone which paralyzes them. I probably have unregistered guns in my home that were passed down to me by my grandpa and stuff. I also have pitbulls in my house, 2 - which lovingly protect my home and siblings. Should I lose my job? Should the media come to my house and blow it all out of proportion, should I be the victim of crazy witch hunts, or should we go follow Roger Goodell around for a few weeks with a camera to see if he goes over the speed limit, if he has any guns, any dogs, or if he ever has a drink. B.S. He'll be there soon enough he just left my place... I got a 6 game suspension, good luck.

07-04-2007, 05:31 PM	#8
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Again, I think the point should be clear that multiple infractions are the issue, not "I've been arrested once in my life". The US Supreme Court ruled a few years back in such a way that would allow you to be arrested for just about anything including speeding. If this episode in AZ had been Tank's only issue, I wouldn't have a problem with him at all. But given his history, I just can't justify him since he seems willing to continue to put himself in bad positions. I don't know what draft pick a team might be deducted if they sign him and he screws up again. I would have to think it'd have to be high enough to make other teams think twice about making the same mistake. That might be as high as a 4th or a 5th. It may go higher than that since many teams would probably willingly have traded for him with a higher pick than that. That may influence Goodell's decision too.

07-04-2007, 06:01 PM	#9
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	I was able to process what your point was. I'm troubled by this attitude of Tank being arrested, while not charged, as being considered another infraction.

07-04-2007, 06:42 PM	#10
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Originally Posted by Nemesis I was able to process what your point was. I'm troubled by this attitude of Tank being arrested, while not charged, as being considered another infraction. "Johnson's blood alcohol level was .072, under the presumptive limit in Arizona of .08 percent, police Sgt. Andrew Duncan said Monday." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html Like I said, he was only under the limit by .008. Sure, he won't probably won't get convicted of DUI, but that's not because he didn't do anything wrong. He had been out of jail less time than he had been in jail and was (in my opinion) just plain lucky that he didn't test more than the .08 limit. To me, that shows that his attitude is one of complete disregard for trying to live a life that does not involve run ins with the law. Considering his history..that's an infraction. The Bears thought so too.